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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 21408096)
Maybe running into other cars kept them from running into telephone and traffic control infrastructure :)
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21408099)
There are also reports of brain disease from CoV-2. |
Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 21407724)
Meeting was ok. Very preliminary and felt more like an ethics committee meeting. But we need to be prepared for the worst case, if it happens.
Will be meeting weekly on Wednesdays for updates. I attended a session on exactly the same question today, led by our head bioethics person with an outside speaker. No one is really willling to come out with a set of hard criteria and priorities. |
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 21406031)
(and of course you need to carry enough fuel to decelerate upon arrival)
.... An analogy And yeah, the deceleration problem to make human travel a worthwhile thing is a big issue. Having to carry double the fuel you need to get there just to stop in time? I know there is atmospheric braking and that works great for a lot of LEO and 'local' trips, but given the speeds that you would need to go interstellar it just can't be practical. I enjoyed your analogy as well. This also basically puts the kibosh on aliens, which doesn't stop my nightmares. |
Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21408138)
**** could really get real.
I attended a session on exactly the same question today, led by our head bioethics person with an outside speaker. No one is really willling to come out with a set of hard criteria and priorities. I sure hope it’s not needed. Fingers crossed. |
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21408194)
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Originally Posted by ls01
(Post 21408090)
Also Accidents seam to be frequent. Yesterday someone creamed the traffic light pole to our subdivision. I saw remnants of 3 other telephone pole conflicts. All recent with car parts strewn about. 2/3rds of the traffic is gone and yet people still cant drive?
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Originally Posted by abshipp
(Post 21408146)
Have you watched the Hulu series "Project Blue Book"? It's kind of dumb, but I really enjoy it at least.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21408194)
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And it seems we're going to put an offer in on that house. Seems surreal under the circumstances, but its a gem.
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Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 21408175)
They actually have a validated score system based on various objective criteria. If beds or vents not adequate, people with the worst score/prognosis don’t get treated or have it withdrawn. It’s terrible but worst-case, necessary. They make it very clear that the people on this committee are NOT the clinicians who are caring for individuals. This is more like population management.
I sure hope it’s not needed. Fingers crossed. And yes, the triage committee is there to insulate the providers from having, or being allowed, to make any resource allocation decisions. Yeah, good to think about, awful to have to do. |
Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21408099)
Possibly brilliant insight.
There are also reports of brain disease from CoV-2. |
Originally Posted by ls01
(Post 21408207)
They would have to have a brain then wouldnt they? I see no evidence of that....
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21408194)
There’s no place like home.
I'm sure you feel even better than he does to have him home :) |
Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21408206)
The discussion I heard went beyond clinical criteria to emergency provider status, self-inflicted harms, e.g., smoking, and discussion of whether risk factors, e.g., metabolic syndrome, acquired as a partial result of racial or economic care disparities should be considered differently.
And yes, the triage committee is there to insulate the providers from having, or being allowed, to make any resource allocation decisions. Yeah, good to think about, awful to have to do. |
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 21408205)
And it seems we're going to put an offer in on that house. Seems surreal under the circumstances, but its a gem.
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Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 21408213)
It’s as fair as it can be.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21408206)
The discussion I heard went beyond clinical criteria to emergency provider status, self-inflicted harms, e.g., smoking, and discussion of whether risk factors, e.g., metabolic syndrome, acquired as a partial result of racial or economic care disparities should be considered differently.
And yes, the triage committee is there to insulate the providers from having, or being allowed, to make any resource allocation decisions. Yeah, good to think about, awful to have to do. |
Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21408211)
Something's making the limbs move and the mouth talk ****e.
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Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 21408213)
I eyeballed the criteria. It was really more on comorbidities. Could not be based on immigration status or other demographics (except maybe age). It’s as fair as it can be. Still terrible.
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Worked from home today due to my poor wife having a terrible muscle spasm in her back, and I wanted to make sure any help she needed was available.
Thankfully, she's doing a lot better. She finally has a functional range of movement after being basically immobile and bedridden. Really tough to see :( OTOH, I kind of forgot how nice it was to listen to music on some decent near-field desktop speakers. |
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 21408223)
It puts a bad dat at the office for me into perspective. I'm glad you're doing the job; I'd have a very hard time with it.
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Originally Posted by abshipp
(Post 21408226)
Worked from home today due to my poor wife having a terrible muscle spasm in her back, and I wanted to make sure any help she needed was available.
Thankfully, she's doing a lot better. She finally has a functional range of movement after being basically immobile and bedridden. Really tough to see :( OTOH, I kind of forgot how nice it was to listen to music on some decent near-field desktop speakers. |
Originally Posted by MoAlpha
(Post 21408211)
Something's making the limbs move and the mouth talk ****e.
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