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rjones28 01-05-22 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by gnome (Post 22362927)
Went for a decent overnight tramp (hike). 25km one way with under 1,000m of vertical gain. that was stupid to do in summer. On the walk in I drank nearly 5l of water (well 1.25L was electrolytes). Even eating salted nuts as a snack I was still dehydrated and knackered when I got to the hut. I drank another half litre of Rooibos while eating dinner and had more water before crawling into my bunk. After a poor night's sleep, the next day was walk out the same way. thankfully it was slightly cooler. I still drank the same amount but added the electrolyte powder twice instead of once to my water bottle. I didn't feel as dehydrated but did feel just as knackered.

Today the only walking I'm doing is a little around the house and some grocery shopping. And I'll still be drinking lots.

I should have gone cycling instead.

Correct.

Velo Vol 01-05-22 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by gnome (Post 22363187)
try it. you might like it.

All the roots, rocks in the pathways become increasingly bothersome after a while.

rjones28 01-05-22 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22362957)
putting a mask on to enter a store and having to wear it for a minimal amount of time doesnít bother me. Wearing a mask non stop for 6 plus hours I get a nasty head ache.

Mask 8 hours wrenching and helping customers at the bike shop all summer long. NBD.

seedsbelize2 01-05-22 07:50 PM

30 km on the mtb, about half of it on pavement because I am as yet unfamiliar with the area in which I was riding. There's a whole nother world out there in off road land.

big john 01-05-22 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22363230)
There's a whole nother world out there in off road land.

True.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a6423f380e.jpg

Velo Vol 01-05-22 10:16 PM

Slow night. Everyone must be preparing for the snow storm. Carefully centering the milk on the refrigerator shelf, the bread on the counter.

genejockey 01-05-22 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22363351)
Slow night. Everyone must be preparing for the snow storm. Carefully centering the milk on the refrigerator shelf, the bread on the counter.

Counting the rolls of toilet paper in the linen closet....

Velo Vol 01-05-22 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22363357)
Counting the rolls of toilet paper in the linen closet....

One roll is all I need.

WhyFi 01-05-22 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22363021)
This. If free riding feels better it's because you're not really doing the workout as specified.

I have no doubt that that's the case for you, but mileage varies, though.

I'm absolutely certain that I would crack on erg mode if I had to reproduce the segment averages from my last AdZ climb. Speaking only for myself, I really think that there's a mental aspect - changing cadence in erg does exactly the opposite of what I'm conditioned to expect, and I think that that distracts and frustrates me enough that, when I'm around threshold, it can eventually cause enough of a misstep to start the death spiral. I think that it's likely that I could ride in erg mode enough to get used to it and not have it be a problem... but I don't really see a benefit for myself, so I'm not going to bother.

WhyFi 01-05-22 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 22363185)
yes, all correct. Plus I did a calibration just before the ride. The thing that bothers me most is the first half of the ride was completely normal. Then like I said, as if a switch was thrown I was off the back...boom! Unless I used the rubber band feature and just pedaled slowly. If I tried to catch up my effort just became overbearing.so I sat 4 seconds back spinning about 100 watts. Until about 5 minutes to go when suddenly I accelerated without any effort and caught the group and actually passed them while putting out 0 effort.
It has something to do with that stupid rubber band I'm sure of it.

****, you're a paying customer - I'd contact Zwift and have them look at your files. Show them the weirdness and how your speed doesn't seem to be correlating to your power and environmental factors.

LesterOfPuppets 01-05-22 11:31 PM

PAOTD, whiteout edition

https://scontent.fphx1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...eg&oe=61DB1B1F

phrantic09 01-06-22 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22363378)
I have no doubt that that's the case for you, but mileage varies, though.

I'm absolutely certain that I would crack on erg mode if I had to reproduce the segment averages from my last AdZ climb. Speaking only for myself, I really think that there's a mental aspect - changing cadence in erg does exactly the opposite of what I'm conditioned to expect, and I think that that distracts and frustrates me enough that, when I'm around threshold, it can eventually cause enough of a misstep to start the death spiral. I think that it's likely that I could ride in erg mode enough to get used to it and not have it be a problem... but I don't really see a benefit for myself, so I'm not going to bother.

One thing Iíve noticed is ERG seems off in Zwift compared to TrainerRoad. I donít know if itís a responsiveness thing or something else, but definitely noticeable. Same effort in Zwift the trainer makes it feel ďharderĒ

ls01 01-06-22 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22363381)
****, you're a paying customer - I'd contact Zwift and have them look at your files. Show them the weirdness and how your speed doesn't seem to be correlating to your power and environmental factors.

Funny, for some reason I never considered that approach. I'll add that to the list of options.

ls01 01-06-22 04:53 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22363463)
One thing Iíve noticed is ERG seems off in Zwift compared to TrainerRoad. I donít know if itís a responsiveness thing or something else, but definitely noticeable. Same effort in Zwift the trainer makes it feel ďharderĒ

Is the lag the same in TR as it is in ZWift? When I used my laptop and ant dongle it was only about 1.5 seconds with Apple and bt its closer to 3 seconds.

indyfabz 01-06-22 05:42 AM

Going to have to break out the snow shovel tomorrow morning.

WhyFi 01-06-22 06:17 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 22362645)

I finally ordered and received a dosing funnel and those needles for WDT. I just tore apart my shop yesterday, but I'll see if I can clear some space in the debris and set up a jig to drill some holes in a handle for those puppies.

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WhyFi 01-06-22 06:27 AM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22363463)
One thing Iíve noticed is ERG seems off in Zwift compared to TrainerRoad. I donít know if itís a responsiveness thing or something else, but definitely noticeable. Same effort in Zwift the trainer makes it feel ďharderĒ

I suppose that's the other factor with differing experiences - trainers and/or programs can vary in their responsiveness. I don't have any meaningful experience with smart trainers other than my own on Zwift, specifically, but it has always felt a bit heavy-handed when changing resistance, whether in erg or just simulating slope. Maybe erg would be less intrusive for me on TR or Sufferfest/Wahoo whatever, but I'm not going to bother looking in to that this off-season.

phrantic09 01-06-22 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22363517)
I suppose that's the other factor with differing experiences - trainers and/or programs can vary in their responsiveness. I don't have any meaningful experience with smart trainers other than my own on Zwift, specifically, but it has always felt a bit heavy-handed when changing resistance, whether in erg or just simulating slope. Maybe erg would be less intrusive for me on TR or Sufferfest/Wahoo whatever, but I'm not going to bother looking in to that this off-season.

agree with the heavy handed ness on all accounts and also feel the same way- I can hold 365-400 for 3 minutes on slope mode but on ERG thereís no way

Mojo31 01-06-22 06:53 AM

Lplo

seedsbelize2 01-06-22 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22363291)

And no cars to futz with. The best part.

seedsbelize2 01-06-22 06:55 AM

Back up to 88 today. Year of no Winter.

Velo Vol 01-06-22 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22363534)
Back up to 88 today. Year of no Winter.

^ ^ ^ ^
reported

mvnsnd 01-06-22 07:54 AM

One comment on ERG mode that might help is to remember that while in ERG mode, you are working with a dual feedback system. The trainer is targeting a power target and 'you' are targeting a power target. The rates at which both react are different and therefore make getting to the zone "interesting". On long intervals, one can just maintain constant cadence and the trainer will change resistance automatically towards the new power target. Short intervals are a little more difficult, if the time at power is shorter than the time it takes for the trainer itself to get to that power, the interval won't be long enough. ie, the feedback rate is too slow. Therefore it becomes your job to effectively increase power quickly to get the trainer into the proper zone so it can just control power rather than try to ramp it up. This means that you have to have a good feeling about where you need to be as far as gear and cadence to make that power right from the start.
One other thing I have noticed with Zwift is that the power targets displayed are rounded to the nearest 5 watts. For example if your target is actually 243, Zwift will display 245, but I don't know if it is actually targeting 243 or 245. And therefore if 'you' are targeting 245, you may find that the trainer is trying to reduce your power as you creep above 'its' upper target limit.
Maybe I'm the oddball, but I don't find ERG mode that difficult to use. But I also think of that dual feedback system that's constantly at work trying to maintain power, and a higher cadence works better than a lower one.

Also somewhere in my Direto setup there is a setting for how many "wheel revolutions" are used to monitor power and I think mine is set less than the default so the response is a bit quicker.

Trsnrtr 01-06-22 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22363513)
I finally ordered and received a dosing funnel and those needles for WDT. I just tore apart my shop yesterday, but I'll see if I can clear some space in the debris and set up a jig to drill some holes in a handle for those puppies.

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Your WDT is going to be fancy. I just duct taped the needles to a 3/4" wooden dowel. :lol:

MoAlpha 01-06-22 08:44 AM

Significant structural issues. Beam going back into house is mostly sound, but compromised by earlier bathroom reno and will have to be reinforced. Note absence of flashing around window frame in lower left. Fortunately, the vertical piece is pressure treated. Downspout drains a huge amount of roof and the water damage is probably due to that bit of totally avoidable bad design.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f36ba3934.jpeg

rjones28 01-06-22 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22363636)
Significant structural issues. Beam going back into house is mostly sound, but compromised by earlier bathroom reno and will have to be reinforced. Note absence of flashing around window frame in lower left. Fortunately, the vertical piece is pressure treated. Downspout drains a huge amount of roof and the water damage is probably due to that bit of totally avoidable bad design.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f36ba3934.jpeg

:twitchy:

Mojo31 01-06-22 09:05 AM

Might see if there is some way to prevent ice dams in that spot going forward. That's likely a cause of the damage as well.

#southernroofingexpert

Mojo31 01-06-22 09:08 AM

"East Coasters" just can't seem to deal with the cold snap: Lawmaker apologizes after apparent try to 'pants' referee (msn.com)

MoAlpha 01-06-22 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22363661)
Might see if there is some way to prevent ice dams in that spot going forward. That's likely a cause of the damage as well.

#southernroofingexpert

Indeed. I also suspect the idiot POs cleaned their gutters never. The structural engineer the window/siding guys brought in regaled me with stories about earthquake damage he's seen here.

And the latest bulletin from downstairs is that the beam going into the kitchen is not even sitting on the post visible from outside (and now inside :() and is attached to it by one (1) horizontal nail. Hey, it's held up for years!

Velo Vol 01-06-22 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22363666)
"East Coasters" just can't seem to deal with the cold snap: Lawmaker apologizes after apparent try to 'pants' referee (msn.com)

I regret to inform that dude's issues have nothing to do with the air temperature.


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