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Originally Posted by Salubrious
(Post 17364481)
Otherwise, you are either going to have go obtain a tool like this:
The Lake Pepin 3-Speed Tour take a look at the left-hand column and click on 'parts' As you can see he does not have it in stock, but at least you know what it looks like. |
Originally Posted by markk900
(Post 17365495)
Try taking the dust cap off from under the sprocket....on one of my hubs I found it made a large amount of mildly scraping noises....I actually forgot to put it back on one time and the noise went away. Now I have the dilemma of put it back and have it be noisy, or leave it off.....
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
(Post 17366150)
I have this tool, and to be honest, in my experience it isn't any more effective than using a hammer and punch.
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Originally Posted by Narhay
(Post 17366313)
I had a noisy scraping hub at some parts of the rotation and couldn't tighten the cones without it making noise until I removed the dust cap and cleaned it. There was quite a bit of buildup under there. Put it back on and it has been nice and quiet ever since with properly adjusted cones.
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Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 17366870)
I'll check this out the next time I have an opportunity to take a good look at it. I don't feel like this would explain the fact that the scraping-while-pedaling part only comes up in the direct drive gear, though. I've been trying to think through what parts only move when pedaling, and I'm having some difficulty visualizing it.
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I popped it open again tonight...didn't see any real wear spots inside the hub shell, but I gave it a bit more thorough of a cleaning than I've done with this hub so far. Interesting note: the '71 hub had no dustcover behind the cog, which I hadn't noticed before...the '63 did. I ended up moving the dustcover to the '71, so we'll see if that does anything. I also noticed a fair amount of dirt and other particulate on various internal surfaces, including the bearings and planet cage, so I gave those a good wipe down as well. Reassembled and re-lubed it all, but haven't had a chance to test ride yet. Hopefully the ride to work in the morning goes well!
Also noticed a little bit of wear on the clutch...nothing really bad, and I haven't had too many clutch related problems, but I swapped it for the '63 hub's clutch since that looked to be in slightly better shape. How much wear is ok before it needs to be replaced? |
Yes, they are!
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You guys made me feel guilty about leaving off the dust cover so I did some cleaning and adjusting last night; cover back on, hub clean, no unusual noises so I am happy. Decided to true the back wheel as well since it had a small warp to it.
As to the clutch, I am not an expert but it simply slides to engage and disengage the pawls so I doubt there is much there to wear out or worry about. |
@markk900, no, the clutch is a wear item. It can require replacement from wear, but I'm not an expert on when. I'd say when it causes a problem.
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I did some reading last night, and it looks like clutch only sees any significant wear from high gear, which I'm not using super often and haven't had too many problems with. I'll leave it for now and wait until it causes a problem.
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Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 17371173)
How much wear is ok before it needs to be replaced?
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Very interesting...after last night's cleaning and re-lubing, it started off fine, then started scraping again after a mile or so of riding. This is pretty much in line with what it's been doing, which makes me think there's some kind of heat expansion going on somewhere...although this morning is the coldest it's been so far this season.
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What was the smallest size frame these 3-speeds came in? I have a 19" Sports ladies frame but it's too big for my 5'0" wife.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 17371553)
@markk900, no, the clutch is a wear item. It can require replacement from wear, but I'm not an expert on when. I'd say when it causes a problem.
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Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 17371851)
Very interesting...after last night's cleaning and re-lubing, it started off fine, then started scraping again after a mile or so of riding. This is pretty much in line with what it's been doing, which makes me think there's some kind of heat expansion going on somewhere...although this morning is the coldest it's been so far this season.
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Originally Posted by Narhay
(Post 17373005)
What was the smallest size frame these 3-speeds came in? I have a 19" Sports ladies frame but it's too big for my 5'0" wife.
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Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 17373402)
I had a minor epiphany upon leaving work this evening, and I think I know what's wrong. Not gonna post my theory until I've tested it (so probably tomorrow morning), but I'm gonna be pretty embarrassed if it's what I think it is.
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@agmetal, that's good to know.
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Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 17371553)
@markk900, no, the clutch is a wear item. It can require replacement from wear, but I'm not an expert on when. I'd say when it causes a problem.
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I guess I'm missing something here. The AW's have clutches? I thought they were all-gear.
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
(Post 17379181)
The clutch probably wears faster than anything else but even then you are looking at a long service interval or after subjecting the hub to great deals of abuse and neglect... if you pull apart an AW for servicing and have replacement clutches then it is not a bad idea to replace it since they are not expensive.
Originally Posted by arex
(Post 17379205)
I guess I'm missing something here. The AW's have clutches? I thought they were all-gear.
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Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
(Post 17379181)
The clutch probably wears faster than anything else but even then you are looking at a long service interval or after subjecting the hub to great deals of abuse and neglect...
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AW clutch
http://i541.photobucket.com/albums/g...3/S-A_AW-1.jpg I have dealt with a few broken axle keys too but this is not really a wear issue. |
Originally Posted by Narhay
(Post 17373005)
What was the smallest size frame these 3-speeds came in? I have a 19" Sports ladies frame but it's too big for my 5'0" wife.
Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 17373645)
Raleigh Colt came in 18" frames, such as this one on eBay.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b...0/DSCN1412.JPG |
Originally Posted by noglider
(Post 17379356)
Well put. The pawls and pawl springs, on the other hand, are a tougher call, since they're tricky to replace.
It's not a clutch like a car clutch which you slip in gradually. This one is in or out. But shifting under load will wear it out, especially if the load is high. |
Originally Posted by Narhay
(Post 17373005)
What was the smallest size frame these 3-speeds came in? I have a 19" Sports ladies frame but it's too big for my 5'0" wife.
Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 17373645)
Raleigh Colt came in 18" frames, such as this one on eBay.
Originally Posted by gna
(Post 17379978)
The Space Rider, which has a 16" frame and 24" wheels, may work for a shorter rider. It might be too small, but there are some petite women who ride them. There's a picture of my daughter with one somewhere in this thread...
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-b...0/DSCN1412.JPG Aaron :) https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8089/...e218e71c_c.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2849/...f959177a_c.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2825/...7f69d3e9_c.jpg |
Originally Posted by wahoonc
(Post 17387865)
My wife is a bit over 5' and rides the Colt just fine, I have looked for a Space Rider but haven't had any luck sourcing one. Her beach cruiser has 24" wheels on it, but she does fine on the Colts. She has two Colts now and a Twenty.
Aaron :) https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2825/...7f69d3e9_c.jpg :D |
Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver
(Post 17387913)
My wife and I also have a set of green 20's... can you imagine the double date ?
:D Aaron :) |
Originally Posted by wahoonc
(Post 17387915)
We definitely would stand out... would that be a herd or a gaggle? :P
Aaron :) |
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