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Ged117 09-23-20 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by bluesteak (Post 21707756)
so what am I doing wrong. How do you put up pics? I used to do it all the time?

Bluestreak, you have to host the images before posting here. I use Flickr.

Does anyone know a method to improve those awful '70s Raleigh Sports brake levers with the cheapo plastic 'enhancement'? I'm fixing up a colleague's 1978 Sports Superbe in pea-soup green complete with dynohub light system. The levers work very poorly and I am fresh out of old Sports levers.

ryansu 09-23-20 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Ged117 (Post 21710597)
Bluestreak, you have to host the images before posting here. I use Flickr.

Does anyone know a method to improve those awful '70s Raleigh Sports brake levers with the cheapo plastic 'enhancement'? I'm fixing up a colleague's 1978 Sports Superbe in pea-soup green complete with dynohub light system. The levers work very poorly and I am fresh out of old Sports levers.


I don't host I go directly from my One Drive folder on my laptop
1. click on the picture Icon (upload) in the tool bar near the middle of the toolbar
2. from the dialog box choose browse your device
3.from the options I choose one drive and pictures (where I store my photos YMMV) and then appropriate folder where the picture I want is - I think you can also just drag the picture into the BF dialog box
4. Select the picture and click on the open button which takes you back to BF
5. let the picture load and when it hits 100% hit the upload button -and bingo you have a picture
6. Or just have your Granddaughter show you :D

sorry not a 3 speed just a sample
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f4e6be21ec.jpg

bluesteak 09-24-20 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Ged117 (Post 21710597)
Bluestreak, you have to host the images before posting here. I use Flickr.

Does anyone know a method to improve those awful '70s Raleigh Sports brake levers with the cheapo plastic 'enhancement'? I'm fixing up a colleague's 1978 Sports Superbe in pea-soup green complete with dynohub light system. The levers work very poorly and I am fresh out of old Sports levers.

So I still am clueless. Do I have to put the pics on another site and then transfer them in. Sounds to complex for an old guy.

I am not sure what you mean by the cheap plastic enhancement. The 73 sports I just finished had automatic adjusters at the levers that were mostly steel, the levers were pretty normal, the same as 50’s bikes. It seemed like an improvement.

clubman 09-24-20 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by bluesteak (Post 21712198)
So I still am clueless. Do I have to put the pics on another site and then transfer them in. Sounds to complex for an old guy.

I am not sure what you mean by the cheap plastic enhancement. The 73 sports I just finished had automatic adjusters at the levers that were mostly steel, the levers were pretty normal, the same as 50’s bikes. It seemed like an improvement.

Do this. Make a post but before hitting submit reply, scroll down to the Manage Attachments box and click it. It will give you a few choices, one of which is Browse your Device. Do that, find the picture and Bob's your Uncle. It loads a preview window of your pic and then you click Upload, then Submit Reply.

Oh and the auto adjusters were a nice idea but they pulled in cable faster than it loosened up so the cables became taut and the levers had no travel left. Apparently it's not hard to defeat the mechanism but you'll have to look it up.

thumpism 09-24-20 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Ged117 (Post 21710597)
Does anyone know a method to improve those awful '70s Raleigh Sports brake levers with the cheapo plastic 'enhancement'? I'm fixing up a colleague's 1978 Sports Superbe in pea-soup green complete with dynohub light system. The levers work very poorly and I am fresh out of old Sports levers.

Don't improve, replace. I have some DC135 all-alloy tourist levers to put on mine when I get around to it. Weinmanns will do as well.

bluesteak 09-25-20 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 21712221)
Do this. Make a post but before hitting submit reply, scroll down to the Manage Attachments box and click it. It will give you a few choices, one of which is Browse your Device. Do that, find the picture and Bob's your Uncle. It loads a preview window of your pic and then you click Upload, then Submit Reply.

Oh and the auto adjusters were a nice idea but they pulled in cable faster than it loosened up so the cables became taut and the levers had no travel left. Apparently it's not hard to defeat the mechanism but you'll have to look it up.

So I didn’t see any manage attachments box. It seems like that is how I used to do it.

My granddaughter has the bike now so we’ll find out if the adjusters work ok, if she uses the bike. I backed them up the whole way before I hooked up the brakes.

clubman 09-25-20 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by bluesteak (Post 21713445)
So I didn’t see any manage attachments box. It seems like that is how I used to do it.

My granddaughter has the bike now so we’ll find out if the adjusters work ok, if she uses the bike. I backed them up the whole way before I hooked up the brakes.

Perhaps you're looking at the site in mobile mode. If you open the User CP and scroll to the bottom, there's a box with a choice of display modes. I like BikeforumsNG

bluesteak 09-26-20 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 21713521)
Perhaps you're looking at the site in mobile mode. If you open the User CP and scroll to the bottom, there's a box with a choice of display modes. I like BikeforumsNG

Bingo, Thanks so much.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f524e09c2.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...de2be7026.jpeg

1989Pre 09-26-20 10:18 AM

Remove Rear Basket Support from S.A 3-Speed Hub?
 
I just bought my first English 3-speed bicycle, a 1962 Rudge Sports. It's going to take a lot of cleaning and polishing,
but what I need to do right now is take the steel shopping baskets off the back. The question I have concerns the
connection where the "plunger" enters the hub. That enters from the outside of the securing axle nut, of course,
so it appears I have to make some accommodation for the plunger mechanism before I can remove the axle nut
and basket with it. What's the drill on this?

clubman 09-26-20 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 21714506)
I just bought my first English 3-speed bicycle, a 1962 Rudge Sports. It's going to take a lot of cleaning and polishing,
but what I need to do right now is take the steel shopping baskets off the back. The question I have concerns the
connection where the "plunger" enters the hub. That enters from the outside of the securing axle nut, of course,
so it appears I have to make some accommodation for the plunger mechanism before I can remove the axle nut
and basket with it. What's the drill on this?

There's a lock nut butted up against the longer metal piece with knurled finish. Release the lock nut and you can unscrew that cable end from the indicator chain that inserts into the hub

1989Pre 09-26-20 03:42 PM

Clubman: Thanks. I got that done.

1989Pre 09-27-20 07:40 AM

AW Sprocket Circlip Loose
 
I have just bought a Rudge Sports from 1962, and upon inspection of the rear hub, I see that the sprocket is loose and the sprocket circlip has apparently fallen out of its retaining ring. Is that what I'm seeing? What is the best way to get that circlip back on to secure the sprocket?

Johno59 09-27-20 11:32 AM

Spacer - the final frontier
 
You are missing the spaces behind the sprocket. Pack it out - one or two spacers will give the circlip a snap.

Johno59 09-27-20 11:40 AM

Plunger
 

Originally Posted by clubman (Post 21714518)
There's a lock nut butted up against the longer metal piece with knurled finish. Release the lock nut and you can unscrew that cable end from the indicator chain that inserts into the hub

The 'plungers is called an indicator. Its position in or out indicates what gear you are in.The whole assembly screws out very easily. Screwed out means the wheel/wheel nuts can be removed like any other wheel.

1989Pre 09-27-20 01:11 PM

Johno59: Thanks. Regarding the rear basket removal, I was not expecting it to be that easy. I just hope I turned the adjusting nut on the indicator
into the right position once I re-attached it.
Regarding the sprocket being loose, I don't follow you. You are saying I need to buy some spacers?

1989Pre 09-27-20 01:26 PM

Here are some picture of my new bike, a Rudge Sports from 1962. I have wanted an English 3-speed for a long time, ever since 1985 when I got to briefly ride a 1960 Raleigh Sports. I thought, at that time, that it was the best ride I had ever had on a bike.
This one is about halfway to being reasonably clean and lubricated. It looks like everything's there, anyway. I was very pleased to find this nearby. I'll take

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4f70c91e2d.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1ee5bc4364.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0ac05d75a0.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...24e50af79f.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e73818a67b.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...972426a2a7.jpg


it for a ride and get you all some better photos maybe tomorrow.

bluesteak 09-27-20 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 21716075)
Johno59: Thanks. Regarding the rear basket removal, I was not expecting it to be that easy. I just hope I turned the adjusting nut on the indicator
into the right position once I re-attached it.
Regarding the sprocket being loose, I don't follow you. You are saying I need to buy some spacers?

There is a 1/4 inch space on the “driver” that normally is filled by the rear cog(1/8) and two 1/16 spacers. If you missing one or both the cog will wobble. It seems like that might damage the cog, or snap ring. You should be able to get the spacers at a bike shop, although I have never needed to. In a pinch you could put two cogs on.

bluesteak 09-27-20 07:27 PM

Very nice bike. Does the Dynohub work?

bluesteak 09-27-20 07:34 PM

The stem might be extend a little high.

1989Pre 09-28-20 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by bluesteak (Post 21716658)
Very nice bike. Does the Dynohub work?

Bluesteak, Thanks. I have not tested the lighting system. The seller commented,
"Maybe you can get it to work", so maybe it needs a bulb. Are they available?

bluesteak 09-28-20 04:32 AM

Hopefully someone else will chime in, but I am pretty certain you can get LED bulbs online.

There are people on the thread that can tell you more about trouble shooting the Dynohubs system and parts, than I can.

Johno59 09-28-20 05:31 AM

http://www.rideyourbike.com/images/sturmeyarcheraw.jpg
In the schematic they are listed as X-49 ,two of. Here they are in front of the sprocket. I usually have them behind the sprocket.

Johno59 09-28-20 05:47 AM

LED Bulbs
 

Originally Posted by bluesteak (Post 21716976)
Hopefully someone else will chime in, but I am pretty certain you can get LED bulbs online.

There are people on the thread that can tell you more about trouble shooting the Dynohubs system and parts, than I can.

Niclite LED bulbs have a website on EBay. You need the Bulb and the capacitor. They've worked fine for me.

Johno59 09-28-20 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 21716952)
Bluesteak, Thanks. I have not tested the lighting system. The seller commented,
"Maybe you can get it to work", so maybe it needs a bulb. Are they available?

Spin the wheel and place a screw driver across the two terminals on the dynohub. A spark indicates you have power.

JaccoW 09-28-20 07:13 AM

We are clearing out some of the dead or beater bikes from the shared bike shed in our apartment complex and a neighbour called an 80's Gazelle Impala with AB hub a "total loss". (to be fair, it was a dumpster find)
With the exception of some superficial rust the only thing really wrong here was a front wheel that rubbed the frame, which was easily fixed by undoing both nuts, putting the wheel in straight, and then tightening them again. We are now discussing future ownership or €30 in replacement parts to get everything running smoothly again. :P

But honestly, some new cables and a new shifter and it will run as new again for a decade more.

http://i.imgur.com/DyaUn92.jpg

Salubrious 09-28-20 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 21716075)
Johno59: Thanks. Regarding the rear basket removal, I was not expecting it to be that easy. I just hope I turned the adjusting nut on the indicator
into the right position once I re-attached it.

There are two methods of making sure the aduster of the toggle chain (also known as the indicator) is set up correctly. The method I like to use is to put the shifter in low, and set the shift cable tension as low as I can while simultaneously seeing to it that the toggle chain is pulled out of the hub as far as it will go. This insures that the shifter will have the least amount of tension on it when in first and all the higher gears will be in the right place (avoiding that notorious 'neutral' between 2nd and 3rd). Note that the cable stop on the top tube of the bike as well as the pulley for the cable are both secured properly!

1989Pre 09-28-20 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 21717682)
There are two methods of making sure the aduster of the toggle chain (also known as the indicator) is set up correctly. The method I like to use is to put the shifter in low, and set the shift cable tension as low as I can while simultaneously seeing to it that the toggle chain is pulled out of the hub as far as it will go. This insures that the shifter will have the least amount of tension on it when in first and all the higher gears will be in the right place (avoiding that notorious 'neutral' between 2nd and 3rd). Note that the cable stop on the top tube of the bike as well as the pulley for the cable are both secured properly!

Thanks, Salu! I really appreciate that. I'll keep your reply, and when it comes time to hook it all back up, it looks like I'll be all set with that information. I took the rear wheel off today and put the circlip to the sprocket back on. Next will be inspecting and relubing the bottom bracket and headset.

1989Pre 09-28-20 03:09 PM

Jacco, it'd look even better with a white saddle, possibly Reydel!:) Good job saving it.

1989Pre 09-28-20 03:16 PM

Johno, I spun the front wheel and turned on the dyno. It works when I throw the switch to the right, but when I throw it to the left, nothing.

The way the sprocket was set up was one spacer behind the sprocket and one in front, so that's how I left it.

1989Pre 09-28-20 03:20 PM

Bluestreak: Yes, I have Nicelite LED bulb in the Ever Ready can on my Grubb. The bulb in the lamp on the Rudge appears to be okay, so I'll see what kind of illumination I get.


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