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WhyFi 11-05-21 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22296903)
Losing weight takes dedication and a certain level of obsession, and it's ASTONISHINGLY easier to regain any weight you lost than it was to lose it in the first place. Plus which, losing weight means you will feel hungry, really hungry at times and you'll have to work through it. I lost almost as much weight as I did last year back in 2013, but I gained it all back by mid 2015.

I think that, once you establish good habits, it's pretty forgiving. Yeah, it can go on more easily than it comes off, but it still takes time and consistency. I mean, you need to consume ~3700 calories more than you expend to gain a pound of chub - that's a lot. I couldn't do that in a week unless I really tried, so to gain a significant amount of weight would take completely reverting back to the bad habits and letting it ride for months.

I think that a lot of people embark on healthy habits and then, before their habits are effectively changed, they break down and have a bad day. Then they feel like ****, worthless, etc, and think their efforts were a waste of time, etc, and then they end up abandoning. But even a really bad day isn't going to move the needle much if you're good the rest of the time - you just can't stuff that many calories in your maw in a day. This is why cheat days can work if you're good the rest of the time. But yeah, people need to realize that bad days happen, they're not the end of the world and to just get back to establishing good habits the next day, so that they can eventually have it engrained enough to really stick.

IME. IMO. LOLWTFBBQ.

big john 11-05-21 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22297201)

So why can't I gain weight?

(a) You're not hyper-cellular
(2) You don't eat enough calories to gain

big john 11-05-21 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22297187)
but I will accept what is safe and skip what is unsafe.

Of course. Sometimes these things are a game time decision. Also, I like having an excuse to post my pictures from up there.

WhyFi 11-05-21 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22297218)
My wife makes a really good pound cake for birthdays. Takes her nearly a half-day to make it. After having a slice, and maybe two, we realize that we just cannot keep it around until it's gone. Fortunately, we can usually send most of it home with the kids. When we can't, we usually look at each other with sad eyes and begrudgingly throw it in the trash.


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22297229)
My wife makes a huge cheesecake once or twice a year. When I'm disciplined I will freeze half of it for the future (cheesecake takes freezing well). When I'm not disciplined I just methodically consume that bad boy over the course of a couple weeks. :o It usually adds a few unhealthy pounds.

Thankfully, my wife isn't much of a baker. I mean, she does a fine job when she does bake, but she just doesn't do it that much. There was a time when she'd knock out batches of chocolate chip cookies pretty regularly, and she went through a scone phase, but it's been a few years since either of those.

BillyD 11-05-21 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22297132)

My fav.

ls01 11-05-21 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22296831)
They need a strong leader.

Next time you see someone coming in the office with junk food, shout out, "No, not on my watch!"

Make a big spectacle of it.

It's a wonder you are not more popular, smh...

Mojo31 11-05-21 02:06 PM

Mine is not much in the kitchen. She calls herself a "heater" rather than a "cook." But, she has a few things that she does really well. One is the pound cake, another is an apple cake with a glaze that she does for holidays. I could consume a whole one of both on any given day. She also makes a mean gumbo.

She's really good at carry out.

Eating and cooking is much easier without kids.

WhyFi 11-05-21 02:09 PM

Mmmmm - apple cake. I haven't made one of those in years. Maybe now that I've got my dough whisk... :innocent:

ls01 11-05-21 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22296907)
There's something about a cobbler and his shoes?
My last car I neglected for years, waiting for it to quit. It kept going,maybe just to spite me.

I suppose it's a little different when it's your body, though?

I think it's more to do with people like us with this hobby/affliction we all share. You can only get so far away from being in shape and still say with any seriousness, "I am a cyclist". You can only fool yourself so much. Mirrors are a thing.
One thing I learned about dieting. You are going to feel hungry. It is inevitable, if you are going you lose weight. But, it won't kill you. Im not going to die. I kind of get used to it. I've been skipping dinner for a couple weeks now, evening fasting. It's working...slowly. in a couple weeks I'll start trimming back lunch. And maybe drop my bagel on the morning. 200 by spring is the goal. I think it's reasonable. That's around 30 lbs. I've given up beer. ( I know! I must be serious)
. I've been prehypertensive for a long time. It's time to fix it. Well... that and those Souls ain't going to crush themselves now are they.

genejockey 11-05-21 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22297243)
I think that, once you establish good habits, it's pretty forgiving. Yeah, it can go on more easily than it comes off, but it still takes time and consistency. I mean, you need to consume ~3700 calories more than you expend to gain a pound of chub - that's a lot. I couldn't do that in a week unless I really tried, so to gain a significant amount of weight would take completely reverting back to the bad habits and letting it ride for months.

I think that a lot of people embark on healthy habits and then, before their habits are effectively changed, they break down and have a bad day. Then they feel like ****, worthless, etc, and think their efforts were a waste of time, etc, and then they end up abandoning. But even a really bad day isn't going to move the needle much if you're good the rest of the time - you just can't stuff that many calories in your maw in a day. This is why cheat days can work if you're good the rest of the time. But yeah, people need to realize that bad days happen, they're not the end of the world and to just get back to establishing good habits the next day, so that they can eventually have it engrained enough to really stick.

IME. IMO. LOLWTFBBQ.

To put that in perspective, though, let's say you go from doing a couple midweek rides that burn ~600 calories each down to none, plus cutting your Sunday ride from 3 1/2 hr to less than 2, so you lose another ~700 calories of burn. Now throw in the holidays and the usual excess, AND the natural tendency to eat more starch and fat in the colder months. That's what happened to me, going from a low of 208 in November 2014 back up to over 220 by mid-2014.

OH! and one thing I've learned from the calorie counting - some things are very deceptive. A little dish of peanuts or cashews? 400 calories. Add one of those a day for 10 days, and there's your 3700 calories.

This is one reason why I'm such a Zwift enthusiast - it makes midweek rides MUCH more likely! I can't do morning or mid-day rides, and afternoons get dark while I'm still working, starting this Sunday at midnight. Now, I can ride all winter without having to force myself to endure the drudgery of staring at a blank wall while having to concentrate to keep my cadence and HR up.

ls01 11-05-21 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22297201)
https://i.imgur.com/cIrkCdp.gif

So why can't I gain weight?

cuz you don't eat enough. Eat more! Monga!

WhyFi 11-05-21 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22297287)
To put that in perspective, though, let's say you go from doing a couple midweek rides that burn ~600 calories each down to none, plus cutting your Sunday ride from 3 1/2 hr to less than 2, so you lose another ~700 calories of burn. Now throw in the holidays and the usual excess, AND the natural tendency to eat more starch and fat in the colder months. That's what happened to me, going from a low of 208 in November 2014 back up to over 220 by mid-2014.

OH! and one thing I've learned from the calorie counting - some things are very deceptive. A little dish of peanuts or cashews? 400 calories. Add one of those a day for 10 days, and there's your 3700 calories.

This is one reason why I'm such a Zwift enthusiast - it makes midweek rides MUCH more likely! I can't do morning or mid-day rides, and afternoons get dark while I'm still working, starting this Sunday at midnight. Now, I can ride all winter without having to force myself to endure the drudgery of staring at a blank wall while having to concentrate to keep my cadence and HR up.

Yeah, it's definitely good to have a year under the belt, then you can anticipate problem times and scenarios. Cruising in to the holiday season had the potential to be a minefield for me, too, but it's gotten easier. And yeah, trainer rides help a lot. I've lost weight through a winter without much by way of trainer rides, but they sure help a lot.

big john 11-05-21 02:36 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22297261)
My fav.

We had to turn back that time, the crew didn't clear the road the rest of the way until the following week. It wasn't really very cold, either. I seem to recall someone saying they climbed over that snow drift and made it to the top.

big john 11-05-21 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22297261)
My fav.

Here is a pic from a little lower on that same road on a different day. Since it's not open to cars for through traffic, ever, they aren't in a hurry to clear it.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dcc9cc90e9.jpg

WhyFi 11-05-21 02:47 PM

Loaf #1. I guess we'll see what's what when I can cut in to it in another half hour.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4cac519002.jpg

big john 11-05-21 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22297331)
Loaf #1. I guess we'll see what's what when I can cut in to it in another half hour.

https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.F...=0&w=300&h=300

Velo Vol 11-05-21 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 22297265)
It's a wonder you are not more popular, smh...

How could anyone not like me?

Velo Vol 11-05-21 03:35 PM

Map of the Day

05 Nov 21


WhyFi 11-05-21 03:39 PM

Huh. The crumb looks pretty good and even. As probably should be expected with such a quick dough, it doesn't have tremendous depth of flavor, but it's still pretty good. For such a low-effort bake, I'd say it's feasible on a ~weekly basis.

MoAlpha 11-05-21 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22297331)
Loaf #1. I guess we'll see what's what when I can cut in to it in another half hour.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4cac519002.jpg

Things I miss…

genejockey 11-05-21 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22297315)
Yeah, it's definitely good to have a year under the belt, then you can anticipate problem times and scenarios. Cruising in to the holiday season had the potential to be a minefield for me, too, but it's gotten easier. And yeah, trainer rides help a lot. I've lost weight through a winter without much by way of trainer rides, but they sure help a lot.

Having bought pants a size smaller back in 2013 - which I fit for maybe 6 months - I was not willing to buy skinny pants this time till I had gotten through a holiday season. Last year I actually lost weight in November - February, but I think it was July before I bought any skinny pants. By that time the old ones were looking real baggy, and without a belt I'd have walked right out of them.

seedsbelize2 11-05-21 03:48 PM

Part of my extreme thinness, I've realized, is that I have a drawerful of XL t-shirts. I currently fit M. Shocking, I know. I have only a few of those. While wearing one of the XL, I look lie a scarecrow.

Trsnrtr 11-05-21 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22297387)


That is pretty cool.

datlas 11-05-21 04:14 PM

Another workweek done. Picked up Mexican food for dinner. I had veggie enchiladas with mole sauce. :bday:

datlas 11-05-21 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22297394)
Huh. The crumb looks pretty good and even. As probably should be expected with such a quick dough, it doesn't have tremendous depth of flavor, but it's still pretty good. For such a low-effort bake, I'd say it's feasible on a ~weekly basis.

Not sourdough? Sad.


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