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adventurepdx 10-24-12 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 14876878)
Lights, several options, B&M makes a decent looking LED headlight. It is about a 1/3 smaller than the stock one. It is basically plug and play. The tail light uses a wedge base bulb, the one from Compass Cycles is a screw base. I use a 12v automotive 194/168 LED bulb, does great but no stand light.

The Lumotec Classic is basically the B&M Lyt in fancier dressing. Works great, and looks good on my Raleigh Wayfarer. It's a good option if you want a decent, modern LED headlamp but want to keep the classic headlamp look.

gna 10-24-12 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by rjhammett (Post 14876682)
By the way, did you see the really small English 3 speed at MMRB? Your daughter needs another one so she can keep up with dad.

They have a little blue Raleigh Space Rider in very nice shape on consignment. It's in better shape than the one I got for my daughter. N+1?

IthaDan 10-24-12 10:05 PM

Thanks for all the answers, that was awesome



Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 14875225)
The Dynohub's output can be low for a couple of reasons. First, even when it's working properly, you'll probably get abotu 2 watts at 15 mph. Second, if someone has taken it apart previously without a magnet keeper, it will cause the hub to lose strength by loss of magnetism. I suspect yours is a case of the hub just being low output in the first place, since it looks like this bike hasn't been messed with much. I swapped in a modern halogen bulb my headlight, which helped a bit. Others go all out and put modern guts into the lamps.

Oh, I don't think there's anything wrong with the dyno, I think it's more that I've been spoiled by my 450 lumen lezyne super drive. I know I'm not going to get that kind of light out of the hub, but something more than a old 2 D-cell flashlight would be nice.



Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 14876878)
No Shimano internals won't fit an SA hub...why would you want to do that? :eek:

My thinking was- more gears with more range, more better. Plus it'd be cool to have a modern hub in a vintage body.

slowtostart 10-25-12 08:45 AM

I'll show and you may tell me anything I need to know. The almost pristine Lady Sports was a gift from my husband. Is it Lady, Lady's, or Ladies'?

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1bbd9111.jpg

It's a 1974 with a coaster brake.

I bought this Royce Union just because and have found it a pleasure to ride. The hub is dated 1961 and everything is marked "England".

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7cb6480e.jpg

This is a Dunelt I cleaned up for my husband, a 1971, the bicycle, not the husband.

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6de6679b.jpg

Except for the Sports, they all needed a good cleaning along with the addition of bits and pieces.

PalmettoUpstate 10-25-12 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by oldroads (Post 14861025)
From our Catch and Release program:

1969 Raleigh DL-1 Tourist
1972 Raleigh DL-1 Tourist
1969 Raleigh Superbe

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=279425http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=279426http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=279427

Nice. So those are for sale at your place now?

BTW, I really enjoyed and learned from your series here - and point people to it who I think might want to partake of the 3-speed addiction:
http://www.ehow.com/videos-on_7798_i...-bicycles.html

wahoonc 10-25-12 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by slowtostart (Post 14878505)
I'll show and you may tell me anything I need to know. The almost pristine Lady Sports was a gift from my husband. Is it Lady, Lady's, or Ladies'?

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1bbd9111.jpg

It's a 1974 with a coaster brake.


Except for the Sports, they all needed a good cleaning along with the addition of bits and pieces.

Step through... I ain't no lady and I ride them ;) :D

Aaron :)

rjhammett 10-25-12 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by gna (Post 14877529)
They have a little blue Raleigh Space Rider in very nice shape on consignment. It's in better shape than the one I got for my daughter. N+1?

That is the one I saw. Very nice shape. Sure is cute. That is the first and probable the last time I will describe a bike as cute.

Roll-Monroe-Co 10-26-12 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by slowtostart (Post 14878505)
I'll show and you may tell me anything I need to know.

You need to know that those bikes look pretty sweet.

noglider 10-26-12 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by slowtostart (Post 14878505)
I'll show and you may tell me anything I need to know. The almost pristine Lady Sports was a gift from my husband. Is it Lady, Lady's, or Ladies'?

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1bbd9111.jpg

You need to know that your husband loves you dearly. Keep him.

akcapbikeforums 10-26-12 10:08 AM

My wife and I will drive up from Virginia Beach to Richmond on Sunday -- to
see the Chihuly show at the VMoFA, dodge the Snoreastercane, and pick up
this Raleigh Sports.

I'll keep this at my downtown Norfolk office. I posted this as a general thread
and someone said it's a Sports Standard. Because it's missing the pump
peg and has the mattress saddle? I'll know more on Sunday... but is there anything
else that would suggest this is a "standard?" I'll look for the Endrick Rims.

Was the Standard a 1970 only offering? I've looked over at the catalog's at
the Headbadge, and it seems to be the only year its mentioned specifically.

And why is the front fender on a Sports so typically out of synch with the wheel?

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/750...rubqdt76zw.jpg

I

gna 10-26-12 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by slowtostart (Post 14878505)
I'll show and you may tell me anything I need to know. The almost pristine Lady Sports was a gift from my husband. Is it Lady, Lady's, or Ladies'?


I bought this Royce Union just because and have found it a pleasure to ride. The hub is dated 1961 and everything is marked "England".

This is a Dunelt I cleaned up for my husband, a 1971, the bicycle, not the husband.

http://i1283.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6de6679b.jpg

Except for the Sports, they all needed a good cleaning along with the addition of bits and pieces.

Wow, very nice looking, all of them. As far as Ladies, Lady, Lady's... I use Lady's when referring to a single bike ( and one lady). If you want to call them step through that's fine.

I like the bag on the Dunelt. Is that something repurposed, or bike-specific?

slowtostart 10-26-12 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by gna (Post 14882713)
Wow, very nice looking, all of them. As far as Ladies, Lady, Lady's... I use Lady's when referring to a single bike ( and one lady). If you want to call them step through that's fine.

I like the bag on the Dunelt. Is that something repurposed, or bike-specific?

It's an Ostrich Pannier from VO. They were on sale.

slowtostart 10-26-12 04:20 PM

PS You may all stand up and take a bow. I came here by way of the Road and Commuting Forums and fell in love with the beautiful bicycles you shared. I love to ride all of my bicycles. The old have souls and make me smile.

graywolf 10-27-12 02:42 PM

I was looking through Walmart's bicycle listing on their website and found that they sell a Hollandia 3-speed 28" bike

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hollandia-...-Bike/16539719

Kind of interesting that the 3-speed cost one $150 more than the single-speed version.

OK, OK, I know it ain't made in England, and it probably ain't made in Holland either, but it is a new hub geared 3-speed for reasonable money.

That interests me. About three years ago, I wrote a shot article about utility bicycling on my blog http://graywolfphoto.com/journal/200...arian-cycling/. To make it a bit more on topic, at the top of the blog you can see in the header photo a photo of my Dunelt taken before I put on the rear stand. Funny seems like I don't have a photo of it with the stand. I guess I will have to take one. The chaincase came from Yellow Jersey, I got lucky they sent me a plain black one.

wahoonc 10-27-12 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by graywolf (Post 14886185)
I was looking through Walmart's bicycle listing on their website and found that they sell a Hollandia 3-speed 28" bike

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hollandia-...-Bike/16539719

Kind of interesting that the 3-speed cost one $150 more than the single-speed version.

OK, OK, I know it ain't made in England, and it probably ain't made in Holland either, but it is a new hub geared 3-speed for reasonable money.

That interests me. About three years ago, I wrote a shot article about utility bicycling on my blog http://graywolfphoto.com/journal/200...arian-cycling/. To make it a bit more on topic, at the top of the blog you can see in the header photo a photo of my Dunelt taken before I put on the rear stand. Funny seems like I don't have a photo of it with the stand. I guess I will have to take one. The chaincase came from Yellow Jersey, I got lucky they sent me a plain black one.

Someone on the Yahoo IGH group just bought one of the single speed Opa versions, still waiting on a report. The Hollandia brand is a low end brand that is sold in the EU. At one point they were made in Holland, but got pushed to eastern Europe somewhere. The parts are made in China now. My biggest beef is that they only come in one size and in my case too small for me and too large for my wife.

For about $40 more you can get a Torker T300 from an LBS completely assembled and ready to ride. Or a KHS Green. Both models are available in a range of sizes. FWIW I have a Redline R530 which is a sister bike to Torker. Mine happens to be a 7 speed IGH model but is similar in design, well built and a good value for the money.

Aaron :)

akcapbikeforums 10-28-12 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by akcapbikeforums (Post 14882623)


Aaron, I'm thinking my Standard might be Nottingham made... the one big difference I can see
with yours is the fork crown -- I've got the dimples.

We drive up today to pick up the bike, frankenstorm be damned! :) Patrick

wahoonc 10-28-12 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by akcapbikeforums (Post 14887640)
Aaron, I'm thinking my Standard might be Nottingham made... the one big difference I can see
with yours is the fork crown -- I've got the dimples.

We drive up today to pick up the bike, frankenstorm be damned! :) Patrick

Mine is a replacement fork from a Hercules. My brother crashed one night when he was hammering and it went neutral on him. Broke the off side crank at the pedal end, and bent the fork. He got 7 stitches, the bike healed before he did :D

Look at the bottom of the seat tube where it joins the BB for a yellow decal.

Aaron :)

akcapbikeforums 10-28-12 07:01 PM

Aaron, my S22 appears to have 72 Sturmey Archer hub, 69-72 Raleigh Heron chainguard with braces, 69-72 chainguard decal.

The 20-30 decal at the top of the seat post is almost entirely scraped off. There is no "made in England" decal on the top tube... but that area looks similarly scraped. At the bottom of the seat tube is a bike shop decal OVER another decal which I can't read... the bike shop decal is for Sugden and Lynch, Menlo Park California. Oh, and it has the Rampar "R" nuts... which theoretically arrived in 73.

I'm going to all it a 72.

Any good sources for a front wheel/rim, Endrick-style? The rear rim has cleaned up beautifully, but the front rim is very pitted. I gave the bike a short ride in Richmond, and it wouldn't go into 1st gear. The lever did not want to move below '2'. I'm thinking I may need to do the ATF or kerosene degunking of the hub -- or an adjustment of the hub?

PalmettoUpstate 10-29-12 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by graywolf (Post 14886185)
I was looking through Walmart's bicycle listing on their website and found that they sell a Hollandia 3-speed 28" bike

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hollandia-...-Bike/16539719

Kind of interesting that the 3-speed cost one $150 more than the single-speed version.

OK, OK, I know it ain't made in England, and it probably ain't made in Holland either, but it is a new hub geared 3-speed for reasonable money.

That interests me. About three years ago, I wrote a shot article about utility bicycling on my blog http://graywolfphoto.com/journal/200...arian-cycling/. To make it a bit more on topic, at the top of the blog you can see in the header photo a photo of my Dunelt taken before I put on the rear stand. Funny seems like I don't have a photo of it with the stand. I guess I will have to take one. The chaincase came from Yellow Jersey, I got lucky they sent me a plain black one.

Let me mention another "modern" bike from WallyWorld; the Genesis Onyx [Kent?]. When I became re-enthused about bicycles about 1.5 years ago, the thought came to mind that my way, WAY Clydesdale brother would benefit greatly from casual bike riding. A Raleigh 3-speed [or clone thereof] is presently out of the question for him but the beastie shown at the link that follows can handle his battleship size and weight. Indeed, I myself like the bike a lot. We bought him one and I brought it home and assembled it myself - mainly for his safety but also to get some insight into what the Asian mega-bike-co's are putting out these days.

No, the components are not top-of-the-line; yes, they're quite adequate for casual usage.

Bottom line: At 36.4 lbs with kickstand, this big bully of a bike weighs almost exactly what my 23" Sports weighs [36.15 lbs.] and it's a blast to ride.

IMO, if Kent puts a 3-speed hub on one of these they're gonna have a huge hit...

Can anyone tell me if there's a reasonably cost-effective way to get a modern SA 3-speed hub that is drilled for 48 spokes?

If so, I'd build myself a 3-speed one of these: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Genesis-On...ndingMethod=rr

smontanaro 10-29-12 08:07 AM

The tires on that Wally bike almost look Pugsley-compatible.

CycleRail 10-29-12 11:15 AM

1972 Raleigh Sports
 
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Hi all. I've been commuting on a 1972 Raleigh Sports for about a year now. :thumb: About 7 miles a day. I've grown to really love this bicycle. It's been very reliable. I recently replaced the saddle. Pictures follow.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8190/8...ed83443f_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8046/8...34f570db7c.jpg

flammenwurfer 10-29-12 01:00 PM

My 3 Speed fetish has rubbed off on my girlfriend. She likes to ride, but wanted a less expensive bike to ride for commuting and running errands so she wouldn't worry about her expensive road bike getting stolen. First, we found a 3 speed cruiser that I've never heard of before and she liked it, but it is really heavy and slow. Then I found her a Lady's model Raleigh Sports that fit her just right. She was really excited about it and spent an entire saturday in the basement with me cleaning it up and rebuilding it.

Not a great pic, but the only one I have at the moment since she is out of town.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6...0/IMAG0218.jpg

She likes photography so here is a cool photo of us riding our Raleigh Sports' at a local park.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-p...0898edited.jpg

tjkwood 10-29-12 03:32 PM

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Hi guys, long-time lurker and first-time poster. I got started on three speeds when I stripped and fully refurbished a 1980 ish Raleigh Caprice for my OH. It's by no means original but it's what she wanted:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=281005

I've just bought a 1947 roadster that was advertised as a Phillips, but I've since worked out that the frame is an Elswick Hopper. I'm after some advice though - the handlebars are not original (they have Phillips branding, hence the confusion) and the frame has a sloping top tube. This is the best picture I've got but basically I'm just wondering what sort of bike this was built as. It's got 26 inch wheels as well:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=281007

It cost me 60 and I intend to refurb it as original as possible, but not really sure where to start. Thanks!

markk900 10-29-12 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by akcapbikeforums (Post 14889514)
I gave the bike a short ride in Richmond, and it wouldn't go into 1st gear. The lever did not want to move below '2'. I'm thinking I may need to do the ATF or kerosene degunking of the hub -- or an adjustment of the hub?

It could be a minor adjustment issue - did you set the indicator rod to be just showing its shoulder out of the axle when in 2nd? It doesn't take a lot of mis-adjustment to go from silky smooth shifting to "can't get it to go to the next gear"!

akcapbikeforums 10-29-12 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 14893652)
It could be a minor adjustment issue - did you set the indicator rod to be just showing its shoulder out of the axle when in 2nd? It doesn't take a lot of mis-adjustment to go from silky smooth shifting to "can't get it to go to the next gear"!

I've just been reading about this, and I found a youtube video on the subject. I will be sure to add a few drops of oil also. Given everything I've read about the hubs, I'm sure it's just a minor adjustment or re-break-in. Thanks for the help!


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