Originally Posted by big john (Post 22595781)

I use extractors as a last resort. If you do, drilling the right size hole and centering the hole is key to a stuck bolt. Also apply a little heat, especially if there is a threadlocker product on the threads. If a bolt is really stuck, like cross threaded or rusted, an extractor will probably just break.

Are the crank bolts the Shimano style with 2 pinch bolts? Those are probably hardened bolts. Are they stripped? You might be able to pound a bigger Allen wrench in there, maybe an SAE size.
Cleat screws might need a good soaking with a penetrating oil. Are they Allen head or slotted? An impact driver might help if you can borrow one.

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Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22595837)

The shimano ones are the 2 pinch bolts. It almost makes me wonder if I got a counterfeit set because the metal in these bolts is so soft, they got stripped by my park tools torque wrench. I have some bolts from older cranks that are not stripped so I need to take these ones out and put new ones in. The cleat bolts are cheap-o Look stock bolts/screws that always seem to strip on me. Possibly user error, as my mechanic is a certifiable idiot in his field.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22595414)

I assume that this means some suffering when hooked up to contraptions? I'm surprised to hear about the cost - much more reasonable than I'd have expected.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22595837)

The shimano ones are the 2 pinch bolts. It almost makes me wonder if I got a counterfeit set because the metal in these bolts is so soft, they got stripped by my park tools torque wrench. I have some bolts from older cranks that are not stripped so I need to take these ones out and put new ones in. The cleat bolts are cheap-o Look stock bolts/screws that always seem to strip on me. Possibly user error, as my mechanic is a certifiable idiot in his field.

Originally Posted by big john (Post 22595781)

I use extractors as a last resort. If you do, drilling the right size hole and centering the hole is key to a stuck bolt. Also apply a little heat, especially if there is a threadlocker product on the threads. If a bolt is really stuck, like cross threaded or rusted, an extractor will probably just break.

Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22595813)

Just getcha the bike: Porsche eBikes: Sport & Cross | PORSCHE SHOP

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22595837)

The shimano ones are the 2 pinch bolts. It almost makes me wonder if I got a counterfeit set because the metal in these bolts is so soft, they got stripped by my park tools torque wrench. I have some bolts from older cranks that are not stripped so I need to take these ones out and put new ones in. The cleat bolts are cheap-o Look stock bolts/screws that always seem to strip on me. Possibly user error, as my mechanic is a certifiable idiot in his field.

Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22595865)

Shimano motor ... not a real Porsche. ;)

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22595747)

I have a couple bolts that are a challenge to remove so I think I need a bolt extractor. These include the bolts to my cleats and the 4mm crankarm fixing bolts.

I don't see that Park Tools makes a bolt extractor. Any suggestions for a budget bolt extractor for bicycle-sized bolts?? Most of the ones on ScamBay seem to be designed for autos and are too big.

Originally Posted by big john (Post 22595817)

Autumn
George Winston: Autumn - Full Album - YouTube

Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22595915)

Can you get at them with vise grips?

Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22595922)

Down tube shifters and platform pedals and you're good to go.
Oh, and iso square taper bb.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22595716)

I got stumped. Would have had it at 7. Sad.

Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22595954)

Eddy Merkx and the like did just fine with the old tech. Maybe you're too soft. Just a thought.










If LAJ is lurking, this should bring him out.

Originally Posted by big john (Post 22595501)

Oh really? I seldom find people who know about him. Maybe I run in the wrong circles. I saw him once at Royce Hall in UCLA. We sat pretty close and it was a great show.

Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 22595630)

Lucky! I've never had a bike where a magic ratio was actually something useful.

That's pretty much the same gearing I ran at 30x18. I had sliding dropouts though :)

Originally Posted by big john (Post 22595501)

Oh really? I seldom find people who know about him. Maybe I run in the wrong circles. I saw him once at Royce Hall in UCLA. We sat pretty close and it was a great show.

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22595539)

I saw him perform at Gammage in the early '80s. No songs by The Doors were played. :)

Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22595707)

My long ago gf is a big George Winston fan .

Originally Posted by seedsbelize2 (Post 22595954)

Eddy Merkx and the like did just fine with the old tech. Maybe you're too soft. Just a thought.










If LAJ is lurking, this should bring him out.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22595657)

I honestly don't recall if that cable is a PTFE coated cable or not, but I have used those fancier cables in the past and I can say for my usage, it does not extend cable life.

I actually do think this is a PTFE coated cable, it's the one that came with the R8000 groupset.

Originally Posted by t2p (Post 22595784)

two thumbs up on George Wilson

any CD in particular recommended ?

( yes - still often listen to CD's lol )

Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 22595996)

Soon as we all start driving VW Bugs I’ll listen to that argument.

And watching small tube TVs.

And using dial-up.

And so on.

Yes I know that was tongue-in-cheek.