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Hiro11 12-21-22 11:22 AM

Riding safely is table stakes to me: hold your line, don't blow through stop signs, protect your front wheel, ride smoothly, don't annoy cars unnecessarily.

Beyond that, the single most important group ride rule is to agree on a pace and drop policy beforehand and stick to it. 90% of problems are eliminated if you do that.

tomato coupe 12-21-22 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by LarrySellerz (Post 22745393)
I only went on this ride once, but I think the regroups frustrated some of the faster riders because we would shoot off like bats out of hell after regrouping and it was easy to lose connection with the pack if you’re just trying to follow the wheel in front of you. Was not very disciplined, but it’s hard with 30-40+ riders of varying strength. “No drop” ride problems I guess.

So, we've gone from:

1. What is the most important rule of group riding?
2. This group ride requires vaccination and I haven't had my booster, but someone needs to stand up for what's right.
3. No drop rides are a problem.

Put down the pipe and focus ...

LarrySellerz 12-21-22 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 22745383)
Basically you want to act on a ride as if you are with other people and know how to interact with others and be in a public setting. If you cannot respect others around you then don't go on rides with others around you.

veganbikes I’m always nice and respectful, people who recognized me/knew me were asking how I’ve been etc because I’ve been MIA from group rides for a while. idk what you’re implying. I wave at everyone lol

genejockey 12-21-22 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 22745383)
I hope not.

The important thing for any group ride is to know how to ride in a group and if incapable of that don't join. It can break down into a lot of things like having a decently maintained bike that won't cause issues for other riders to knowing how to keep on someone's wheel without causing issues or not keeping on their wheel to not cause issues. If you are new to a ride and it is not a beginners ride regardless of what you may think you are, maybe avoid it or stay to the back and be super respectful and if they ask you maybe not to join them I wouldn't.

Basically you want to act on a ride as if you are with other people and know how to interact with others and be in a public setting. If you cannot respect others around you then don't go on rides with others around you.

If the ride has rules, follow their rules or don't go on their ride. Plenty of fun rides can be done solo or if you are lucky enough to have friends then go with them.

This is such a simple thing, and not following this is like showing up at someone else's house and demanding that they cater to your whims.

Koyote 12-21-22 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22745502)
This is such a simple thing, and not following this is like showing up at someone else's house and demanding that they cater to your whims my mother.

Shorter and more to-the-point.

terrymorse 12-21-22 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by LarrySellerz (Post 22745393)
but yeah people were getting shelled off of the “no drop” ride, probably not ideal, but maybe that’s the nature of the beast?

The AV "B" ride has regular regroup locations, for slower riders to catch up.

That's what makes the ride a "no drop" ride. Losing the front group is no big deal.

Eric F 12-21-22 05:57 PM

Know the type of group you're joining, and whether it's a good fit for you. If you struggle to maintain 20mph on flat ground, and have little-to-zero pack riding experience, joining the local racer-boy group ride is not going to go well, and could be dangerous for everyone. If your intent is to hammer at race pace, and attack the group, this is not going to be welcomed behavior for a slower-paced, no-drop, casual/coffee ride.

Also...Protect your front wheel, hold your line, and brake smoothly.

genejockey 12-21-22 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 22745511)
Shorter and more to-the-point.

As long as your mother doesn't show up for group rides and then not hold her line.

bblair 12-21-22 06:52 PM

From today's group ride:

Nobody should ever get left behind because of a flat tire. New rider to our group had 2 flats! Of course we waited.

#2-No need to apologize. Every one of us has been dropped and had the group wait for us. Or, as above a flat. You'd do the same for us.

indyfabz 12-21-22 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by LarrySellerz (Post 22745347)
The first rule on the rules and etiquette page is this: Note: All riders must be fully vaccinated and boosted for COVID-19.

I emailed the president and board of directors saying that I joined the B ride last time and had a great time, but asked to clarification on if I was breaking any rules by riding without getting my booster, and asked if they recommend that I avoid Alto Velo rides unless I get my booster. President is the B ride leader, and my full name is in the email, so they should be able to extrapolate who I am (got a few cheeky comments saying they didn't recognize me with all the clothes on.) Someone needs to stand up for what is right, you feel me?

Don’t want to follow the rules? Choose a different ride. Better yet, start your own ride. Sort of like complaining that you got banned from BF for posting inappropriate images.

veganbikes 12-21-22 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by LarrySellerz (Post 22745413)
veganbikes I’m always nice and respectful, people who recognized me/knew me were asking how I’ve been etc because I’ve been MIA from group rides for a while. idk what you’re implying. I wave at everyone lol

Whatever you wish to claim dude, from your postings here that is the opposite. Smiling and waving means nothing when you are riding dangerous bikes and hollering at women and stuff like that. Regardless though the notes in that post were for everyone. However yes if you violate a group rides rules that is bad and you did that and admitted to it.

It's simple follow their rules or don't ride with them.

BillyD 12-21-22 08:58 PM

Say Mr. Sellerz, it's not too cool to malign this organization on this forum because you you have a personal issue with vaccines. As several here have already stated, If you don't like their rules just don't ride with them, I'm confident they'll struggle along without you.

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