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Ged117 10-18-19 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 21169287)
The interesting thing is that I bought two sets of Duro whitewall tires within a few months of each other for two different bikes. The set on the 1958 Sports had a lot of premature cracking of the sidewalls that kept worsening. The set I put on my 1970 Sprite were better. They were the same model of tire and bought fairly close together in time. With a cheaper tire, I guess you get the quality control variations too. I moved on from the Duro whitewalls to newer Schwalbe whitewalls, and the ride improved greatly on the 1958 Sports. You really do gain a lot when you move from the really cheap tires to more of a mid-level tire (I guess the Schwalbe is more mid level than economy level for these).

Are they mid level? What would high level be? I know you can get Grand Bois 650A from Japan. Perhaps they are the top notch. The Panaracer 650A rides very nicely, but I'm not sure about punctures. I keep mine at 45 pounds in the rear and 40 in the front and haven't had any punctures yet and its smooth. For my girlfriend's '72 Sports, I'm thinking of the whitewall tires for puncture resistance and good ride quality.

paulb_in_bkln 10-18-19 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by Ballenxj (Post 21168637)
Link at the bottom gives correct credit to dailymail.co. The link takes you to a Raleigh Ad where you can find this photo. ;)

I see the source as Popperfoto/Getty Images but not an ad that uses it. But I can hardly follow the Daily Mail page at all, it's so jumpy. One photo shows a kid on an American Stingray or similar, not the Chopper at all.

Ballenxj 10-18-19 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 21169947)
I see the source as Popperfoto/Getty Images but not an ad that uses it. But I can hardly follow the Daily Mail page at all, it's so jumpy. One photo shows a kid on an American Stingray or similar, not the Chopper at all.

I think it's a third or better of the way down via that link. But I saw her there. ;)

Ballenxj 10-18-19 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 21169947)
I see the source as Popperfoto/Getty Images but not an ad that uses it. But I can hardly follow the Daily Mail page at all, it's so jumpy. One photo shows a kid on an American Stingray or similar, not the Chopper at all.

Here's the link; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...otorsport.html
Go 4 images down, see video, then go down another 8 images? The ninth should be an image of her. More like only a fifth of the way down.
The text directly below her photo says; Producton of the original Chopper bike ceased in August 1983, as BMX bikes became the fashionable choice.

AL NZ 10-18-19 07:56 PM

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I finished my old BSA project last weekend. I started 10 yrs ago with a rusty frame which I think is about 1920s. Had that sandblasted and painted , then put an old secondhand set of Westwood’s on it with an Eadie coaster brake rear hub that barely stopped.
Over the years I’ve gathered an old Major Jones stem, old Lauterwassers, new alloy Pashley rims, some rebuilt tandem brake hums with 3 speed gears. Not sure of era of the hubs - they looks 70s to me but have date stamp 00-5.
it rides beautifully.

Ballenxj 10-18-19 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by AL NZ (Post 21170145)
I finished my old BSA project last weekend. I started 10 yrs ago with a rusty frame which I think is about 1920s. Had that sandblasted and painted , then put an old secondhand set of Westwood’s on it with an Eadie coaster brake rear hub that barely stopped.
Over the years I’ve gathered an old Major Jones stem, old Lauterwassers, new alloy Pashley rims, some rebuilt tandem brake hums with 3 speed gears. Not sure of era of the hubs - they looks 70s to me but have date stamp 00-5.
it rides beautifully.

Nice Bike. I've gotta ask, how do you like the drum brakes by comparison to regulat caliper style brakes?

AL NZ 10-18-19 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by Ballenxj (Post 21170226)
Nice Bike. I've gotta ask, how do you like the drum brakes by comparison to regulat caliper style brakes?

I would estimate them as being about as effective as rubber caliber brakes on an old 26” chrome rim.
not a patch on discs or modern alloy-rimmed calipers.
but a zillion times better than a cracked Eadie coaster brake !

BigChief 10-19-19 04:51 AM


Originally Posted by AL NZ (Post 21170234)
I would estimate them as being about as effective as rubber caliber brakes on an old 26” chrome rim.
not a patch on discs or modern alloy-rimmed calipers.
but a zillion times better than a cracked Eadie coaster brake !

Great job on this. What a perfect way to put such an old roadster frame back in use. Excellent choice of components.

paulb_in_bkln 10-19-19 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by AL NZ (Post 21170145)
I finished my old BSA project last weekend. I started 10 yrs ago with a rusty frame which I think is about 1920s. Had that sandblasted and painted , then put an old secondhand set of Westwood’s on it with an Eadie coaster brake rear hub that barely stopped.
Over the years I’ve gathered an old Major Jones stem, old Lauterwassers, new alloy Pashley rims, some rebuilt tandem brake hums with 3 speed gears. Not sure of era of the hubs - they looks 70s to me but have date stamp 00-5.
it rides beautifully.

Looks brand new!

paulb_in_bkln 10-19-19 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by Ballenxj (Post 21170074)
Here's the link; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...otorsport.html
Go 4 images down, see video, then go down another 8 images? The ninth should be an image of her. More like only a fifth of the way down.
The text directly below her photo says; Producton of the original Chopper bike ceased in August 1983, as BMX bikes became the fashionable choice.

That Daily Mail page is hard chewing for my PC. The best I can pull up is the photo, but there's no copy to indicate where it might have run or the theme of the ad. Raleigh wouldn't run the photo as a space advertisement with no text. I wonder if the girl is someone who was recognizable at the time, and maybe copies of the photo were intended to be signed by her and handed out at Raleigh PR events.

paulb_in_bkln 10-19-19 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by AL NZ (Post 21170145)
I finished my old BSA project last weekend. I started 10 yrs ago with a rusty frame which I think is about 1920s. Had that sandblasted and painted , then put an old secondhand set of Westwood’s on it with an Eadie coaster brake rear hub that barely stopped.
Over the years I’ve gathered an old Major Jones stem, old Lauterwassers, new alloy Pashley rims, some rebuilt tandem brake hums with 3 speed gears. Not sure of era of the hubs - they looks 70s to me but have date stamp 00-5.
it rides beautifully.

I have decided that the best way to keep that minimalist look but still have a bike with some utility for day rides is an old fashioned canvas saddlebag. Eventually I am going to get one for a project bike I have in mind.

Ballenxj 10-19-19 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 21170604)
That Daily Mail page is hard chewing for my PC. The best I can pull up is the photo, but there's no copy to indicate where it might have run or the theme of the ad. Raleigh wouldn't run the photo as a space advertisement with no text. I wonder if the girl is someone who was recognizable at the time, and maybe copies of the photo were intended to be signed by her and handed out at Raleigh PR events.

Yeah, that site was tough for my PC as well. Don't know what else I can say or do about that. It's nice that somebody even bothered to post those old AD's.
I agree, the girl looks like somebody we should know, or at least would have liked to. ;)

paulb_in_bkln 10-19-19 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by southpawboston (Post 21164666)
Hey Neal! Long time, no see. Curious about your Jeunet conversion! Coincidentally, I converted an old Jeunet 630 to 3-spd IGH awhile back, but never tried to convert it to 650B. It's limited by its clearances for anything larger than 700x28. The front fork (original) has so little vertical clearance that I had to file the daruma nut so that the tire didn't rub, but it has plenty of width. The rear triangle has gobs of vertical room and requires a long-reach brake, but the chain stays are far too narrow. Can't win! Too bad, because I find the Reynolds frame to be supremely flexy and fast. It would probably work best configured as the skinny tire road bike it was intended to be.

Just wondering about the description "flexy." You mean, like, a lively feel, not actually flexible, and not the slightly dead or jarring (I know that's a terrible way to put it) feel of the heavier hi-ten tubing on the Sports. Which is even more pronounced on one of those old welded Schwinns with the solid blade fork. Not that I've anything against the Schwinns. Millions of old Varsities out there and I love to see them here refitted as city bikes.

Ged117 10-19-19 12:37 PM

1972 Raleigh Sports Step-Through
 
Here is the bike I found for about $50. It is a '72 Sports by hub date, with the older style chain ring and proper brake levers. The hand grips are so small. Of course, it sat in the seller's shed for years. A quick eye will notice the fork - I think it is off a French bike of some kind since the 'crown' matches the fork on my AO8. In any case I have a matching Raleigh fork in sky blue for it. The hub is free, as is the seat post. I was happy to find that the oil port cover is still in place on the AW. The shifter is missing its by-1972 plastic cover. I might replace the shifter if I can find an older one in the parts bin at my local co-op. All components are in place and in dire need a clean and rebuild. My girlfriend doesn't ride fast, and likes a comfortable pace. I was thinking of a 20T or 21T sprocket to replace the 18T one on the bike. Is 22T too far? Some misguided person tried to paint the downtube, but I'm thinking I could polish it off somehow. How do you fellows remove unwanted paint?

Speaking of paint, I think this bike could be a candidate for my first paint job. There is a lot of surface rust on the fenders. I remember that Chief got the rust off somehow and clearcoated the fenders. I could try that if I'm not feeling ambitious. What does it look like to paint a frame, and do it reasonably well? I would remove the metal plate off of the steerer tube and of course recreate the white tailed fender. Thoughts? At any rate this bike will get a tear down, polish, and rebuild. I'm tempted to add CR18 wheels to the list, but can they still be found in 40H? This will be an all-rounder for my girlfriend come spring. I figured lighter wheels would help. I'm thinking whitewall Schwalbe Delta Cruiser tires instead of the Panaracers on my Raleigh. Fourth photo is a 1962 dated SA dynohub that I found for my IGH Peugeot commuter wheel build.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/J3...w2054-h1540-no

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gster 10-19-19 01:55 PM

Yutte Stensgaard

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Carry On Blogging!: The A - Z of Carry On Supporting Actors: Yutte Stensgaard

gster 10-19-19 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by AL NZ (Post 21170145)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5e7dbf9a3.jpeg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7e8187238.jpeg
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https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...56768694f.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...58c75c68a.jpeg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...13d929661.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a45cf0287.jpeg
I finished my old BSA project last weekend. I started 10 yrs ago with a rusty frame which I think is about 1920s. Had that sandblasted and painted , then put an old secondhand set of Westwood’s on it with an Eadie coaster brake rear hub that barely stopped.
Over the years I’ve gathered an old Major Jones stem, old Lauterwassers, new alloy Pashley rims, some rebuilt tandem brake hums with 3 speed gears. Not sure of era of the hubs - they looks 70s to me but have date stamp 00-5.
it rides beautifully.

That bike is quite the Perfect Path Racer.

Ballenxj 10-19-19 02:11 PM

Thanks! Swedish yah?

BigChief 10-19-19 02:11 PM

Wow, you found her. Impressive detective work.

gster 10-19-19 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 21170819)
Wow, you found her. Impressive detective work.

It was pretty easy...
I dropped the photo into Google image search and
she came up on page 2.....
Ula dance now?
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yeBfVrJ2UiY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

paulb_in_bkln 10-19-19 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 21170878)
It was pretty easy...
I dropped the photo into Google image search and
she came up on page 2.....
Ula dance now?
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yeBfVrJ2UiY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Producers was the first thing I thought of, too!

clubman 10-19-19 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 21170878)
Ula dance now?

Snort!!!
I couldn't place it until Paulb woke me up. Damn, what a film.
"That is why they called me Rolf!"

BigChief 10-19-19 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 21170878)
It was pretty easy...
I dropped the photo into Google image search and
she came up on page 2.....
Ula dance now?
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/yeBfVrJ2UiY" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I did not know about "search by image". I keep learning new things here.

gster 10-20-19 07:29 AM

A Raleigh Trent Tourist
For sale here in Toronto at $1000.00........
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ebd6abee50.png
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You would think that someone trying to sell a bike like this would do a
little market research before listing.

gster 10-20-19 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 21171134)
I did not know about "search by image". I keep learning new things here.

Yeah, Someone at work, showed me a while back.

Commando 10-20-19 04:58 PM

Picked up a couple of NOS SA hubs from an LBS that's closing down. Hidden among the boxes of Shimano 333's and Tourney running gear.
A 1978 AW 28 hole and a 1996 Sprinter 36 hole with all the accessories bar the cable. I hadn't heard of the Sprinter 5-speed before, opinions online seem to be 50/50 good/bad about it. I think I'll lace it up for my Miyata Valley Runner, which I was planning on doing up with an AW, and see how it goes.
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