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Let's see your Marinoni
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84 Gianella made by Marinoni
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'84 Special, badly in need of repaint, relatively successful 650b conversion:
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Originally Posted by pcb
(Post 17254865)
'84 Special, badly in need of repaint, relatively successful 650b conversion:
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Good grief, are all Marinoni owners 11 feet tall?!
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Marinoni Special Re-Issue.
http://i1324.photobucket.com/albums/...psa474eb62.jpg |
Now look here, sonny---you don't want to throw down with me when it comes to crappy paint! I'll out-crap anybody!
Hard to see from the photo, but mine was a Portland, OR frame that came with uncountable sub-paint rust spiderwebs. I sanded about a dozen spots down to metal, then hand-mixed mis-matching paint and hand-brushed the scabbed areas, badly. There were so many spiders on the front half of the top tube that I stripped it down to metal and rattle-canned it, in a not-even-near match blue. So the frame is scabrous, and the front/rear top tube halves don't match for color, or texture. I also inexplicably badly hand-painted a line between the two halves, thinking it would make the transition look smoother, but which only makes it look worse. The line/strip doesn't match the other two colors, so it's a mis-matched tri-color top tube. Then, since I evidently don't understand surface or primer prep, big hunks of the underside of the repainted half stuck to my rubber-coated frame hooks, leaving a big patch of exposed primer/metal. Decals are flaking off, seat tube front reads simply "MARINON." That's what his friends call him. Drive-side down tube "I" is mostly gone. BOOM! *drops mic* *walks off stage*
Originally Posted by ham
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Oh, BTW, I like the extended head lug, especially for a human of your height. I'm thinking that's kind of early for a '93 frameset, no? Mr. Marinon ahead of his time a bit? Or am I just getting old and forgetful? Rivendell's first frames were shipping in '94-'95, which is when it first entered my consciousness...
Originally Posted by ham
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Originally Posted by pcb
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Oh, BTW, I like the extended head lug, especially for a human of your height. I'm thinking that's kind of early for a '93 frameset, no? Mr. Marinon ahead of his time a bit? Or am I just getting old and forgetful? Rivendell's first frames were shipping in '94-'95, which is when it first entered my consciousness...
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Been piecing this together since early spring and now that fall has arrived it is finally rolling. In the next few days I need to take some decent pictures to post up. A few more things I would like to do with it, tires, radial lace the front wheel…..you know it never ends!
http://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-te...238b21545f.jpg http://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-te...9b60b5278e.jpg http://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-te...d895343376.jpg 1985 Marinoni, Marinoni Special, Serial Number: P513 The tube set is Columbus SL with a Columbus SP down tube. The fork crown and bottom bracket are Hitachi. The standard engraving on the lugs and Nagasawa inspired, Hitachi cast fork crown, produced by the lost wax method were the traditional ‘M’, but for a slight price increase could be ordered with either the Fleur-de-lis or Maple leaves. Customizing the tube set was a common practice for Marinoni, his blend to give the frame a little more stiffness. Another thing that Marinoni did that no one else did was to stamp the serial number on both the bb and the fork steerer tube. When Marinoni first started making framesets up until the mid-eighties, he was strictly building for racers and not the general population. His location up in Terrebonne, Quebec Canada was off the radar. You had to know of someone who knew someone to find out where he was. Frame and Fork 1985, Marinoni Special, 54”, Columbus SL/SP double butted chrome-moly, Campagnolo Forged Dropouts 2014, Dropout Adjusting Screw Set 2014, CR-MO Seat binder Bolt 2014, King Ti Cages X2 2014, Ergopower Blocks EC-RE001 Handle Bars 2010, Zipp Contour SL 42cm 2014, BBB Cycling Extender BHP-20, modified 2014, Cinelli Milano Bar End Plugs 2014, White Lizard Skins DSP 2.5mm Bar Tape Stem 2014, Deda Superleggero Stem, Black/White Decal, 110mm 2014, Stem Spacer, 10mm, Al. Shift Levers 1985, Simplex SLJ 6311 shift levers 2003, Campagnolo Chorus, 10 Speed, Ergopower shifters Headset 1985, Campagnolo Super Record, 25.4 x 24 Cranks 2013, Campagnolo Super Record, 11 Speed, UltraTorque 172.5mm 2014, Campagnolo Super Record, 11 Speed, UltraTorque External BB Cups, Italian 36mm X 24tpi Brake Levers and Calipers 1985, Campagnolo Corsa Record aero/non aero Brake levers 2008, Campagnolo Chorus Skeleton Calipers Saddle 2014, San Marco Regal E, Red Saddle, Xsilite rails, 230g Seat Post 1987, Campagnolo Chorus Aero 575, 26.8, (1st Generation) Cassette 1998, Chorus MK2 9 Speed, CS-19SP, 13 – 26 Chain 2014, KMC X10 SL Superlight Wheels 1998, Campagnolo Athena hubs, Mexico 68 rims, 32 hole, 485g, Wheelsmith SS 14 gauge spokes, radial front, cross 3 rear, 213g per 32 units, Duristan™ Brass nipples 2006, Campagnolo Chorus hubs, Velocity Aerohead rims (O/C rear), 32 front 36 rear, 425g, Wheelsmith double butted SS 14/16 spokes, cross 3, 172g per 32 units, Duristan™ Brass nipples Tires and Tubes Specialized Turbo Sport 700c X 23mm Derailleurs 2003, Campagnolo Record, rear, short cage 2010, Campagnolo Super Record, 11Speed modified with Veloce cage, front, braze on Pedals 2013, Shimano DuraAce SH-PD9000 Cables 2014, Ashima Reaction Shifter Cable Kit, black 2014, Ashima Reaction Brake Cable Kit, black Incidentals Cable and Ferrule Touch Up Paint Cateye Strada Wireless Cyclocomputer, CC-RD300W Head Set bearings Measurements Saddle to bar drop 10.0cm Working on this! Paint and Frame Restoration Two Wheels Restorations, Pietro Masdea Marinoni Fire in the Frame trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-nZgOQk_EE |
This is essentially a thread bump, because I really hope it keeps getting Marinoni entries so that we can see the evolution or variations in his designs over the years.
I'm fascinated that the "modern" features on my 1987 frame (post #4 ) - vertical rear dropouts, fastback seat stays, and rear brake housing stops - don't show up until notably later Marinoni. Never have seen another full chrome rear triangle (and everywhere under the paint). It has longer 43.5mm chain stays (love 'em!) and threaded fender mounts in the steerer tube and rear brake bridge. Anybody else have those? When I wrote about about the serial number, Simonne M didn't indicate that this was anything other than a stock frame when it was sent to the the original LBS. |
Long has your Marinoni triggered jealousy in me, having seen very few with sport-tour/tour designs. If I ever get around to getting mine repainted, I'm seriously thinking of having some sport-tourish braze-ons installed before the repaint. Chroming is out of the question, as is lengthening the chainstays; doubt I'd want to pay the upcharge to change to vertical drops. Yours came so well sorted-out straight from the Marinoni workshop.
My Marinoni-fu is imperfect, but my understanding is that any vintage frame with a "Special" decal on the left chainstay was a custom order. Yours doesn't appear to have a Special decal, so it may be a stock frame, but it clearly isn't a stock road racing frame. They'd never use that geometry and include all those braze-ons for a stock road frame. I don't think you're seeing "modern" features so much as contemporary sport-tour/tour features. Using vertical drops on a non-race frame with longer chainstays and fender mounts wasn't unusual in '87, especially for a North American builder. Schwinn Paramount touring models through the '70s had brazed-on rear brake casing stops, while the racing models used uninterrupted housing and clamps. The fastback stays don't strike me as particularly non-racing, but plenty of British builders used them throughout the '60s and '70s so they don't seem any more modern than wraparounds. I could only guess whether he thought fastbacks were better for non-race uses, or if he was just trying to add more visual distinction to that model. I'd love to see more Marinonis posted here, especially some less-common models. I have a Boston/Terry-type small front wheel Marinoni buried somewhere, I've never seen another of those. The serial number scheme is very different from mine and yours, I always wondered if maybe Marinoni outsourced these.
Originally Posted by Dfrost
(Post 17261111)
This is essentially a thread bump, because I really hope it keeps getting Marinoni entries so that we can see the evolution or variations in his designs over the years.
I'm fascinated that the "modern" features on my 1987 frame (post #4 ) - vertical rear dropouts, fastback seat stays, and rear brake housing stops - don't show up until notably later Marinoni. Never have seen another full chrome rear triangle (and everywhere under the paint). It has longer 43.5mm chain stays (love 'em!) and threaded fender mounts in the steerer tube and rear brake bridge. Anybody else have those? When I wrote about about the serial number, Simonne M didn't indicate that this was anything other than a stock frame when it was sent to the the original LBS. |
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Not a Marinoni, but Jocelyn Lovell apprenticed under Marinoni. I've posted about this bike elsewhere, I've done some more work on it but haven't taken updated pictures yet. I'll get to it. For the record it now has a selle turbo saddle; bar tape, and I had to go back to the Shimano 600 RD because the spring on the campy is shot.
But it's in good enough shape that I took it on an 80 mile club ride a couple weeks ago and me and the one other guy on a C&V bike rode at the front of the pack and had no issues keeping up with all the fancy new bikes. Marinoni of pretty much any flavor is my grail bike and I will get one someday when budget a circumstances favor me. I think they're gorgeous, their owners rave about them, and they are uncommon enough around these parts that I'm pretty sure no one else will have one. Don't ask why a guy from Kansas has a thing for 70s-80s Canadian bikes but I do. http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=414868 |
1981 Pista Special - I still own and will not part with. SP with ovalized downtube. I'll post several more that I have owned, though some photos are on an old laptop that is fried and I haven't tried to recover the HD yet.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...m/IMG_0812.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...m/blogback.jpg |
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a repainted '79/'80
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...a/IMGP2713.jpg apparently I don't have any good photos, this also featured the maple leaf cut out. |
An '88 special. fleur de lis cut-out. it this was a 60 I would still own it. full 1st gen chorus.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...l/HPIM0893.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...l/HPIM0904.jpg http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...l/HPIM0900.jpg |
apparently I only have this sellers NDS photo of an '89 corsa.
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Also had this 96 corsa for my partner for a little while.
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j2...m/IMGP2797.jpg I don't regret selling any of them, but i would love to find and early to mid 1980s machine or even a later 1970s in my size. 61/62. Something with eyelets and clearance for a 28 or 32 with finders would be lovely. |
Picked this up from a storage facility sale. Great bike.
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fleur de lys cutouts are da bomb
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Originally Posted by bloom87
(Post 17579614)
fleur de lys cutouts are da bomb
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Originally Posted by curbtender
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Picked this up from a storage facility sale. Great bike.
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps36cc5374.jpg Yikes, that's a tall stem. |
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