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Toadmeister 05-27-20 06:23 AM

Broken Deraileur hanger - glueing it back together!
 
Bike fell over one too many times and snapped the deraileur hanger :(. That's what it's supposed to do of course. Problem is, Jamis can't get me a replacement fast enough. 2019 Jamis Renegade Exploit.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3693ab6ffa.jpg

Got a big gravel ride this weekend and I need a fix. Gonna try glueing it back together!

More to come....
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...12b91bf344.jpg

Toadmeister 05-27-20 06:25 AM

Ok, I'm no dummy to bonding. Epoxy is my adhesive of choice. With proper surface prep, clamping and curing, we have the technology. We can rebuild him!

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1d67152734.jpg

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d464eac948.jpg

Toadmeister 05-27-20 06:31 AM

5 minutes tack time, 1-hour cure. I let it sit clamped overnight just to be sure.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8801048e82.jpg

Toadmeister 05-27-20 06:33 AM

Looking good this morning. Just some mild flexes in my hands are exhibiting good bonding. Can't catch a good photo, but it's like a slight weld bead exists around the bond lines.

Going​ to throw it on the bike this afternoon and try it out.

May the Force be with me...

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...da7f8f1cc2.jpg
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hillyman 05-27-20 06:36 AM

Your much smarter than me. I would have went with duct tape

Toadmeister 05-27-20 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by hillyman (Post 21499587)
Your much smarter than me. I would have went with duct tape

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LOL. Duct tape definitely would not work in this case.

fishboat 05-27-20 06:40 AM

yah..that's totally gonna work. awesome dude..

55murray 05-27-20 07:41 AM

I know you need that to work. You want that to work. You don't want to feel helpless by your misfortune. But reflect on this dispassionately before you take that long gravel ride.

dedhed 05-27-20 07:54 AM

I personally would have drilled & tapped it as well as glue. Or minimum wrapped it in wire embedded in glue on the outside as well. I suspect you won't be going far.

Toadmeister 05-27-20 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by 55murray (Post 21499707)
I know you need that to work. You want that to work. You don't want to feel helpless by your misfortune. But reflect on this dispassionately before you take that long gravel ride.

​​​​​​I know you mean well and that's appreciated.

I'll be taking it on a test run tonight. Murphy's Law probably dictates it will fail when I'm the furthest out from help or support ;). In such a scenario, I will convert it to a single speed, shorten the chain, and limp home :)

Toadmeister 05-27-20 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by dedhed (Post 21499728)
I personally would have drilled & tapped it as well as glue. Or minimum wrapped it in wire embedded in glue on the outside as well. I suspect you won't be going far.

I thought about doing some of that. Due to where the break is and clearances to the frame, there's really not room for growth externally. Not enough area to drill and add pins.

Wilfred Laurier 05-27-20 07:58 AM

I wish you well, but I doubt this fix will hold for long.

I could see getting it welded back together, but JB weld is probably not going to work.

Toadmeister 05-27-20 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by Wilfred Laurier (Post 21499736)
I wish you well, but I doubt this fix will hold for long.

I could see getting it welded back together, but JB weld is probably not going to work.

If your right, I will eat Crow and report back. It's worth a shot to me. In any case, I'll provide an update!

I have a backup bike, it's my Fat Tire with 2.2" wheelset. It is an absolute DOG to ride compared to my Jamis Renegade! I've been riding it over the last week and it wears me out much faster! ALSO, it has a creaky bottom bracket. I have a replacement BB but I found I needed to order a special wrench! Won't be here until Saturday.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a26d4dd1a5.jpg

Just Mark 05-27-20 08:16 AM

Subscribed. I'm rooting for you.

Toadmeister 05-27-20 08:35 AM

Adding a little background info.

Called LBS about 1-1/2 weeks ago about a replacement hanger. They didn't' have one in stock so they reached out to Jamis. Heard NOTHING back for over a week, I also tried contacting their Customer service via a WebForm/Email but nada. I finally found a phone number and called them directly, left a message. Was happily surprised yesterday when they called me back. Talked to a nice lady who confirmed the order from LBS but it hadn't been shipped yet and no estimated date :(

Yes, I understand these are tough times and bicycle business' are overloaded so I understand their situation, they are trying their best. I also reached out to a few other Jamis bike dealers, got a couple responses but none in stock.

Have tried other online suppliers of replacement hangers- no dice :(

GlennR 05-27-20 08:43 AM

I suggest you stop dropping the bike. One more hit and the hanger will break again.

Toadmeister 05-27-20 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by GlennR (Post 21499798)
I suggest you stop dropping the bike. One more hit and the hanger will break again.

​​​​​LOL. Yes, will break if dropped again I assume.

Taking your advice out of context a bit for (humorous) dramatic purposes: I suggest we don't use our bikes as they could break!

dedhed 05-27-20 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Toadmeister (Post 21499735)
I thought about doing some of that. Due to where the break is and clearances to the frame, there's really not room for growth externally. Not enough area to drill and add pins.

I'm seeing plenty of room. Drilled through the back side with a countersink for a #4 or #6 flat head machine screw head, tapped hole in the front side and nothing would extend past the existing surfaces.

freeranger 05-27-20 08:51 AM

Have you tried a hanger supplier, other than your Jamis dealer, such as: https://derailleurhanger.com/
They don't list the Exploit, but there are other sites out there. Is there a number on the hanger by which you might search?

hillyman 05-27-20 08:55 AM

https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-han...ers/jamis.html
Here also. Maybe can pay crazy shipping for in time

Toadmeister 05-27-20 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by freeranger (Post 21499812)
Have you tried a hanger supplier, other than your Jamis dealer, such as: https://derailleurhanger.com/
They don't list the Exploit, but there are other sites out there. Is there a number on the hanger by which you might search?

Yes, tried looking there and a couple others- thanks.

Toadmeister 05-27-20 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by hillyman (Post 21499819)
https://wheelsmfg.com/derailleur-han...ers/jamis.html
Here also. Maybe can pay crazy shipping for in time

Yup, tried there to but no match, thanks.

Toadmeister 05-27-20 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by dedhed (Post 21499805)
I'm seeing plenty of room. Drilled through the back side with a countersink for a #4 or #6 flat head machine screw head, tapped hole in the front side and nothing would extend past the existing surfaces.

I know what your saying. I've concluded this adds more risk. Appreciate the thought.

GlennR 05-27-20 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Toadmeister (Post 21499804)
​​​​​LOL. Yes, will break if dropped again I assume.

Taking your advice out of context a bit for (humorous) dramatic purposes: I suggest we don't use our bikes as they could break!

Totally of of context.

There's a difference between wear from use and damage from abuse.

Not saying you abuse it but "Bike fell over one too many times" tells me you need to change what you are doing.

Best of luck and if your LBS is not getting results... try another. I snapped the crank fixing bolt and contacted a LBS. With no word after a few days, I called another shop and had the part 2 days later. It's been 10 weeks and i've still not heard back from the first shop and don't plan on using them in the future. My point is some shop can't be bothered to order a part they don't make any money on.

Toadmeister 05-27-20 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by GlennR (Post 21499844)
Totally of of context.

There's a difference between wear from use and damage from abuse.

Not saying you abuse it but "Bike fell over one too many times" tells me you need to change what you are doing.

Best of luck and if your LBS is not getting results... try another. I snapped the crank fixing bolt and contacted a LBS. With no word after a few days, I called another shop and had the part 2 days later. It's been 10 weeks and i've still not heard back from the first shop and don't plan on using them in the future. My point is some shop can't be bothered to order a part they don't make any money on.

I know what I did wrong- I was trying to replace my pedals while just using my kick stand for support- BAD IDEA and the bike knocked over. It also fell over another time the week before due to negligence on my part. LESSON LEARNED: Use my bike stand for doing wrenching and maintenance! Furthermore kick stands are not to be trusted. I mainly use my kickstand just as a third hand when loading the bike and not to leave it standing un-attended.

You got to learn life's lessons the hard way. Or at least I do.


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