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Mojo31 11-12-21 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22304825)
Such as? Most forms of racing do not require much in the way of smarts. Physical ability and ability to anticipate are mostly it.

Well, since sailboats never race in a straight line, there is a lot involved such as:
  • which side of the course is favored due to wind speed, direction, wave action, the effects of shorelines on wind, the effects of current on speed over ground
  • what are your competitors doing - should you lead, follow, cover, take a flyer to try to gain on them when they are ahead
  • how can you get to the best spot on the starting line without fouling another boat
  • if offshore, what is the best route and how will that be impacted by weather
  • what sail choice will give you the best performance at any given moment
  • how to best utilize the rules to gain an advantage at mark roundings
Many other things as well.

Mojo31 11-12-21 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22304831)
Start at the J/105 Worlds (or something) with 3 fleets and 90 boats on the line. We suck ass, but the owner/driver is a really great starter. We bust a very quick tack onto the lee bow of a top boat from SF with inches to spare, right at the committee boat, with seconds to go. He was sure he had shut that door. Someone on the other boat yells, “Don’t ever do that again!” It became a standing joke for us and still gives me a chuckle.

Of course they beat us by like 20 boats, anyway.

That begs the question (;)), did your boat plane?

Velo Vol 11-12-21 09:03 AM

By the way, I passed through Philadelphia, TN, a few weeks ago. It's a much easier drive than the PA one.

indyfabz 11-12-21 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22304830)
Because it's all about PERFORMANCE? :innocent:

Ever notice that the Trek bike he's riding has a triple up front?

I like "I'm On a Mother***** Bike" better.

WhyFi 11-12-21 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22304838)
Well, since sailboats never race in a straight line, there is a lot involved such as:
  • which side of the course is favored due to wind speed, direction, wave action, the effects of shorelines on wind, the effects of current on speed over ground
  • what are your competitors doing - should you lead, follow, cover, take a flyer to try to gain on them when they are ahead
  • how can you get to the best spot on the starting line without fouling another boat
  • if offshore, what is the best route and how will that be impacted by weather
  • what sail choice will give you the best performance at any given moment
  • how to best utilize the rules to gain an advantage at mark roundings
Many other things as well.

....but why male models?

bampilot06 11-12-21 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22304718)
It's all about Performance. It's the name of the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn29DvMITu4


kind of looks like Richmond.

MoAlpha 11-12-21 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22304840)
That begs the question (;)), did your boat plane?

Hahahah! You had to go there. Yes, off a wave face, under spinn, in a 28 kt gust at 120° TWA, for about 4 seconds.

Velo Vol 11-12-21 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22304838)
Well, since sailboats never race in a straight line, there is a lot involved such as:
  • which side of the course is favored due to wind speed, direction, wave action, the effects of shorelines on wind, the effects of current on speed over ground
  • what are your competitors doing - should you lead, follow, cover, take a flyer to try to gain on them when they are ahead
  • how can you get to the best spot on the starting line without fouling another boat
  • if offshore, what is the best route and how will that be impacted by weather
  • what sail choice will give you the best performance at any given moment
  • how to best utilize the rules to gain an advantage at mark roundings
Many other things as well.

Anticipate wind and other competitors, basically.

bampilot06 11-12-21 09:17 AM

A little over 1000 miles short of my goal for the year.

“throws imaginary cigarette on the ground”. ***** about to get real.

BillyD 11-12-21 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22304762)
Uh oh. I hope this was not as bad as posting the Polish National Team or that Lampre guy.
:foo:

Yes, those two are definitely frowned upon. Post at your own risk. The Polish team one . . . . I always have to wonder why someone would want to keep that on their computer.


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22304777)
The video used to be blocked, which was a little heavy-handed, I thought.

I agree, but you'd be surprised at how often the staff sees things differently.


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22304828)
But you're missing so much. :innocent:

It was mildly entertaining 10 years ago - I don't know why it ever gained the traction that it did.

Yeah I had to go back and look, now that I've had my coffee and breakfast. Pffttt I've seen that before, as a rule I rather enjoy humorous stuff, even attempted humorous stuff.

Mojo31 11-12-21 09:23 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22304860)
Anticipate wind and other competitors, basically.

The big difference is that in bike, running, cars, and virtually all other races, the competitors are following the same path. In sailboat racing, there is no path. On a lake, for example, two boats heading toward the same turning mark can be a quarter mile or more apart and sailing in completely different wind and water conditions.

MoAlpha 11-12-21 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22304860)
Anticipate wind and other competitors, basically.

Current is also big.

Velo Vol 11-12-21 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22304878)
Current is also big.

"smart" is a broad term. I wasn't sure what you meant in this context.

rjones28 11-12-21 10:01 AM

Currently participating in the quintessential activity that does not require much in the way of smarts.

Velo Vol 11-12-21 10:05 AM

Afternoon activity


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2edf0882d8.jpg

genejockey 11-12-21 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22304920)

You're leaving? Bon voyage!

BillyD 11-12-21 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22304920)

Watch out for ticks, they seem to like the fallen leaves. Two days in a row I've found one on me. So small, about the size of a pin head, easy to miss. I'm super vigilant this time of the year, they're always in the leaves.

Actually you have less to worry about since you don't live in the Northeast or quasi-north. ;)

genejockey 11-12-21 10:18 AM

If I were swimming in extra cash, I could see getting one of those electric crate motors, to put it into a late 50s-60s land yacht. Something huge and weird looking, like an Imperial or pre-61 Lincoln. It's hard to justify driving something that gets single- digit miles per gallon as the planet warms and the seas rise.

Then again, if you equip them with a powerful electric motor, you still have crappy drum brakes, so you should upgrade those, too.

datlas 11-12-21 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22304938)
If I were swimming in extra cash, I could see getting one of those electric crate motors, to put it into a late 50s-60s land yacht. Something huge and weird looking, like an Imperial or pre-61 Lincoln. It's hard to justify driving something that gets single- digit miles per gallon as the planet warms and the seas rise.

Then again, if you equip them with a powerful electric motor, you still have crappy drum brakes, so you should upgrade those, too.

I would consider an electric conversion for the Saturn, but it works great and gets 40MPG so not necessary.

Mojo31 11-12-21 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22304938)
If I were swimming in extra cash, I could see getting one of those electric crate motors, to put it into a late 50s-60s land yacht. Something huge and weird looking, like an Imperial or pre-61 Lincoln. It's hard to justify driving something that gets single- digit miles per gallon as the planet warms and the seas rise.

Then again, if you equip them with a powerful electric motor, you still have crappy drum brakes, so you should upgrade those, too.

I got some big s#%t from my wife about that when she noticed the average mpg readout on my Audi RS5 was showing "5" (following a couple of fun days). That car only lasted about a year.

rjones28 11-12-21 10:42 AM

Strong Southerly winds mean that leaf raking activities are not required on the rjones28 estate.

BillyD 11-12-21 10:47 AM

Bird post time, a Peregrine sunning herself, waiting for a tasty morsel to make a mistake and fly by.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cff6f60511.jpg

WhyFi 11-12-21 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22304920)

Googling stock photos?

WhyFi 11-12-21 11:03 AM

I feel like I'm starting to come around on the trainer. Rode two of the London maps (going after bonus experience points by covering routes that I haven't ridden) and had decent efforts (right around my outdoor FTP) in both the 10 and 20 minute range (Box Hill and TTing the Greater London Flat route, respectively).

Oh, and this was the first time firing up the fake TT bike. They fly. I should get one IRL :p

seedsbelize2 11-12-21 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22304390)
I used a beer can shim to stop a 27.2 seatpost sliding down the 27.4 seat tube on the Battaglin, before I got a 27.4 seatpost. Mind you, moving that 27.4 seatpost is a chore. 27.2 keeps slipping, 27.4 requires a lot of force to insert or move. I'm thinking it's really a 27.3.

A great deal of experience says a slice of plastic water bottle works much better. More grab.


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