Bamboo Fork
Anyone have any experience assembling one? I've seen only one (?) online despite plenty of bamboo frames.
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One design/fabricating challenge with a fork is that it's the only structural member (of a frame) that is connected to another member at only one end. All other members (tubes) are joined at both ends. This might seem trivial but to attain the strength and stiffness needed the dimensions and joining methods of wood are critical. Fork failure is not a nice thing to experience (seen too many results involving serious body damage...)
A metal steerer and crown unit will likely be employed as headsets only come in so many sizes. The crown will need to space the wood blades the right distance apart and allow for enough overlap for a good joint. So too with the drop outs need to overlap in the blades a lot. In the end there will likely only be a few inches of only wood between all that metal. Not sure beyond the ability to say one did make a wood fork what would be gained, and there's a lot to loose. Andy |
Bamboo bikes are not a good idea, as bamboo deteriorates much faster than steel, aluminum or carbon fiber. It is a novelty, not a good idea for a bike you want to last for many years.
If you decide to make a bamboo fork, I suggest using at least 70 mm bamboo from near the base of the bamboo. Near the base, bamboo has a thick wall, and a small hollow center. Higher up, it has a thin wall, and a large hollow center. Similarly if you made one out of pine, you would want at least 2 by 3 inches. Anything thinner would not be strong enough. If you want the bamboo look, drill out the middle of bamboo, and slide it over steel or aluminum forks. |
Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
(Post 22131952)
One design/fabricating challenge with a fork is that it's the only structural member (of a frame) that is connected to another member at only one end. All other members (tubes) are joined at both ends. This might seem trivial but to attain the strength and stiffness needed the dimensions and joining methods of wood are critical. Fork failure is not a nice thing to experience (seen too many results involving serious body damage...)
A metal steerer and crown unit will likely be employed as headsets only come in so many sizes. The crown will need to space the wood blades the right distance apart and allow for enough overlap for a good joint. So too with the drop outs need to overlap in the blades a lot. In the end there will likely only be a few inches of only wood between all that metal. Not sure beyond the ability to say one did make a wood fork what would be gained, and there's a lot to loose. Andy |
Originally Posted by seibaatgung
(Post 22132484)
Then what color scheme goes good with a bamboo frame?
You would desecrate the sacred bamboo with... with... with poison??? If natural skin isn't good enough... Andy (trying to channel humor) |
Originally Posted by Andrew R Stewart
(Post 22132816)
You would desecrate the sacred bamboo with... with... with poison??? If natural skin isn't good enough... Andy (trying to channel humor)
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Originally Posted by seibaatgung
(Post 22132845)
How else do you get a safe fork on a bamboo bike?
But my opinion isn't the issue. Safety is. Andy |
Yes agree with Andy. A bamboo fork is just too sketchy for all the reasons he gave. A fork only has to fail in one place and you faceplant. Highest risk of failure plus highest consequences. There's no shame in just buying a fork. Paint it black. Black goes with everything.
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Most bamboo bikes have black joints, so match that.
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Originally Posted by alo
(Post 22132003)
Bamboo bikes are not a good idea, as bamboo deteriorates much faster than steel, aluminum or carbon fiber. It is a novelty, not a good idea for a bike you want to last for many years.
If you decide to make a bamboo fork, I suggest using at least 70 mm bamboo from near the base of the bamboo. Near the base, bamboo has a thick wall, and a small hollow center. Higher up, it has a thin wall, and a large hollow center. Similarly if you made one out of pine, you would want at least 2 by 3 inches. Anything thinner would not be strong enough. If you want the bamboo look, drill out the middle of bamboo, and slide it over steel or aluminum forks. |
Originally Posted by Canaboo
(Post 22133714)
You probably shouldn't have posted. Most if not all of this is speculation.
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Originally Posted by Canaboo
(Post 22133714)
You probably shouldn't have posted. Most if not all of this is speculation.
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Originally Posted by alo
(Post 22136917)
The truth is, you making a judgement like this is speculation.
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Originally Posted by alo
(Post 22136917)
The truth is, you making a judgement like this is speculation.
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Originally Posted by unterhausen
(Post 22137045)
I feel like you are the one that is speculating here. I haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe that bamboo bikes have a particularly short lifetime. I'm sure there are examples of bamboo frames that didn't last too long, but that's true for any material.
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Originally Posted by Canaboo
(Post 22133714)
You probably shouldn't have posted. Most if not all of this is speculation.
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Originally Posted by alo
(Post 22137987)
I am in a place where I see bamboo growing in the wild almost every day. I have had many discussions with people about using it for construction of houses and other things.
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Originally Posted by alo
(Post 22137988)
If you expect to be taken seriously, give an intelligent reason for what you are saying.
The main issue with a bamboo fork is attaching it to a crown and steerer. Most do not have the capacity to make that part. |
If I was going to attempt a bamboo fork, I'd do a double fork crown, somewhat like some MTBs use.
Although it has to be designed so that the steer tube can be put inside of the headtube, as well as be removed (meaning either the topplate, bottomplate, or steertube must be removable). https://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j...nch-Travel.jpg |
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