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mstateglfr 06-22-22 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by ArgoMan (Post 22550373)
Hey guys....bought a threadless steel fork from Soma. Next issue is the handlebar stem. Most are made for 1 1/8 diameter. I see that JensonUSA sells a "shim" to address that. Any concern with that? I wouldn't think so. I can also fabricate something pretty easily. Also, what's the skinny on "ZIPP" products? They sell a nice looking silver colored stem. Smelly, I need to hear from you on this! Thanks!

A shim is totally fine to use, but there are also plenty of stems made for 26mm and 25.4mm handlebar diameters. I have owned 26.0mm threadless stems from Easton, Ritchey, Kalloy, and VeloOrange.
As for ZIPP, that is a quality brand. Their more basic offerings run under the 'Service Course' model and are perfectly fine. Zipp Service Course is comparable in entry level offerings to the 4 brands I mentioned above.

SoSmellyAir 06-22-22 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 22550413)
A shim is totally fine to use, but there are also plenty of stems made for 26mm and 25.4mm handlebar diameters. I have owned 26.0mm threadless stems from Easton, Ritchey, Kalloy, and VeloOrange.
As for ZIPP, that is a quality brand. Their more basic offerings run under the 'Service Course' model and are perfectly fine. Zipp Service Course is comparable in entry level offerings to the 4 brands I mentioned above.

*The following content has nothing to do with an ICAN frame.*

I think what ArgoMan needs is a shim that would "thicken" his 1" steerer to 1-1/8" so he can use more widely available stems. I also recently had to go that route to attach a 31.8 mm handlebar onto a 1" steerer, because I cannot find a stem for a 1" steerer that would also accept a 31.8 mm handlebar.

mstateglfr 06-22-22 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir (Post 22550437)
*The following content has nothing to do with an ICAN frame.*

I think what ArgoMan needs is a shim that would "thicken" his 1" steerer to 1-1/8" so he can use more widely available stems. I also recently had to go that route to attach a 31.8 mm handlebar onto a 1" steerer, because I cannot find a stem for a 1" steerer that would also accept a 31.8 mm handlebar.

Yes, very aware it has nothing to do with ICAN frames. Argo started a thread and asked another question within the thread, so I responded. I know he didnt buy a steel Soma fork for an ICAN frame.


I see now that 1 1/8" is the steerer diameter, makes more sense than the issue I explained.
ArgoMan - buy a shim and move on. Those things were included with stems for a period of time when bikes were equally split with 1" and 1 1/8" steerers. Some shims are long enough to use 1 1/8 spacers, others are only about 40mm and the length of a stem, which means using 1" spacers. Just FYI for appearances.

ArgoMan 06-22-22 10:57 AM

Thanks guys! Sorry for starting confusion about stems on a thread about carbon frames. I thought I had posted it in a different thread. But while were here, I saw that VeloOrange sells an adapter that will allow a threadless headset to be mated with a traditional quill stem. That would be great, as I love that look! Any ideas on that?

mstateglfr 06-22-22 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by ArgoMan (Post 22550486)
Thanks guys! Sorry for starting confusion about stems on a thread about carbon frames. I thought I had posted it in a different thread. But while were here, I saw that VeloOrange sells an adapter that will allow a threadless headset to be mated with a traditional quill stem. That would be great, as I love that look! Any ideas on that?

I am not aware of this product. Really not sure how it would work either, to be honest. How would the threadless headset be preloaded?
Are you referring to a threadless stem adapter? If so, that is for a threaded headset and fork and allows a threadless stem to be used. That is different from what you mention though.
https://velo-orange.com/collections/...s-stem-adaptor

seypat 06-23-22 05:59 AM

Are these frames designed for DIYers?

Bald Paul 06-23-22 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by seypat (Post 22551384)
Are these frames designed for DIYers?

You'll have to have the steering tube cut to your correct length. BB is press fit, so if you don't have the tools for that, your LBS can handle those items for you.
Running Di2 wires (or cables) through the frame isn't as hard as it sounds.
I guess "designed for DIYers" all depends on what you're comfortable with / capable of as far as working on bikes goes. But other than the steering tube and BB install, I built up my bike with no real issues.

Elvo 06-23-22 05:13 PM

Yeah you can make your own bearing press for like $20 with a threaded rod/nuts/washers (from home depot) and the appropriate drifts for your bearings (found online). You can cut a steering tube with a hack saw (use a high teeth blade and PPE if cutting carbon)

DaveSSS 06-23-22 05:34 PM

Back to ICAN frames. I'd avoid a model that's disc, but with 130mm rear spacing instead of 142mm. As far as DIY, a frame is a frame. There's no cutting/facing tools needed but a RD hanger alignment tool is always wise to own. Press in cups can be done with threaded rod and washers. I watched the Hambini video. He couldn't find any problems, which is rare.

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Bald Paul 06-24-22 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by DaveSSS (Post 22552112)
Back to ICAN frames. I'd avoid a model that's disc, but with 130mm rear spacing instead of 142mm. ​​​​​​

Not an issue. All of their disc road frames are 142mm rear spacing.

seypat 06-24-22 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by seypat (Post 22551384)
Are these frames designed for DIYers?

I only mentioned DIY because of the brand name.

Ryan_M 06-26-22 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir (Post 22549727)
Found it ...

Carbon gravel frame X-Gravel ICAN Cycling

... but it only takes a 140 mm disc brake rotor?

They only list 140mm rotors F/B for my A22 frame as well, which I run. I see no reason I couldn't put a 160mm on the front which I may do. This bike rolls so well I end up riding the brake excessively on downhills (when riding in group situations) that they squeal for a bit likely due to heat build up.

Recycled Cycler 06-26-22 05:39 PM

I have kinda the opposite: an adapter that fits in a traditional headset that lets me use threadless-type stems. So now I can use any modern stem with my old Serotta.

https://velo-orange.com/products/vo-...s-stem-adaptor

Is that what you're talking about? If so, that won't work with a threadless headset.


Originally Posted by ArgoMan (Post 22550486)
Thanks guys! Sorry for starting confusion about stems on a thread about carbon frames. I thought I had posted it in a different thread. But while were here, I saw that VeloOrange sells an adapter that will allow a threadless headset to be mated with a traditional quill stem. That would be great, as I love that look! Any ideas on that?



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