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gt3racerich 01-17-23 07:20 AM

Specific tool for Campagnolo chains?
 
I am replacing a Record 10 speed chain.
I have done it in the past just using the chain tool on my multi-tool. Maybe I never read the instructions before but they are very specific in saying to only use the Campanolo tool, part # UT-CN200.
I never mind buying the correct tool for a job but at over $150 is it really needed? Anything else that would be recommended that would do a better job then the Muti-tool that is not as expensive as the Campy tool?
Thanks in advance for any info.

veganbikes 01-17-23 07:50 AM

Campagnolo requires a peening tool so different than a special S-group chain tool. I recall Pedros and Park making a tool that does peening. The Park one is currently discontinued only because a new one is in the works but your local shop might still have a CT-4.3. Me personally if I did have a Campagnolo drivetrain I would probably have the tool as I would want to make sure I did it correctly because I bought the Campagnolo drivetrain and want to stick with Campagnolo parts though I am lucky enough to have a Abbey Decade Chain Tool so in that case I might not because I have the finest chain tool out there which has the peening ability.

A multi tool is a really poor chain tool. Multi tools are tools I would carry with them while riding to perform usually functions that require a different hex and torx wrenches and maybe a screwdriver or two and maybe some separate tire lever(s) and inflation. The only time I might consider a chain tool is mountain biking or long distance touring or something like that. Multi Tools that try to do everything seem cool in the head but aren't great in actual practice. Trying to miniaturize and keep everything together leads to tools that are harder to use in the end. Plus I don't think I have seen a multi tool that has a chain tool that also handles Campagnolo chains but even so everything still applies.

HillRider 01-17-23 07:54 AM

Campy has always warned against using any chain tool but their own ridiculously expensive and frequently changed ones. If you followed their advice you would have to buy a new chain tool ($$$) from them every time Camy introduced a new chain.

The Park CT-3.3 chain tool sells for about $40 and will work with just about any bike chain made. Also, instead of using Campy's specific joining pin/link KMC makes a Campy-specific 10-speed "Missing Link" reusable quick link that works very well and is far more reasonably priced.

Crankycrank 01-17-23 08:16 AM

+1 for what HillRider said above. KMC Missing Links are VERY reliable, easier to live with if you remove your chain for cleaning and $ as opposed to $$$$$$+ for the tool.

Kontact 01-17-23 08:33 AM

Not peening the pin is a recipe for disaster. Do it right or use a different link, or different chain.

Bike shops generally don't charge that much to put a chain on with their tool.

alcjphil 01-17-23 09:24 AM

The peening tool was introduced when Campagnolo went to 11 speed. It wasn't used for 10 speed chains

KerryIrons 01-17-23 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by Crankycrank (Post 22771675)
+1 for what HillRider said above. KMC Missing Links are VERY reliable, easier to live with if you remove your chain for cleaning and $ as opposed to $$$$$$+ for the tool.

Yup. I've been using quick links on Campy 10s and 11s chains for years. No issues.

Sy Reene 01-17-23 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by HillRider (Post 22771652)
Campy has always warned against using any chain tool but their own ridiculously expensive and frequently changed ones. If you followed their advice you would have to buy a new chain tool ($$$) from them every time Camy introduced a new chain.

The Park CT-3.3 chain tool sells for about $40 and will work with just about any bike chain made. Also, instead of using Campy's specific joining pin/link KMC makes a Campy-specific 10-speed "Missing Link" reusable quick link that works very well and is far more reasonably priced.

It's been awhile since last looking at what Park has for chain tools. The 3.3 will certainly suffice to break a chain, so that you can install a master link, but does not work in peening a Campy pin if you want to join the chain in that manner. I see though that for some reason, it seems Park has discontinued for good, not having brought it back anyway, their 4.x series of "master" chain tools -- which could peen campy pins/chains. Seems odd to get rid of their ostensible 'shop quality' chain tool.

Funny Q&A on their website IMO:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3f914045a7.jpg

JohnDThompson 01-17-23 09:54 PM

Park made the CT-11 chain peening tool, but it seems to be discontinued. BikeToolsEtc was blowing them out for $20 a while ago, but they seem to be all gone now.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9f37bc3bbd.jpg

gt3racerich 01-18-23 05:26 AM

Thank you everyone for taking the time to reply. I appreciate the info.
Will order the park tool and some quick links.

alcjphil 01-18-23 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 22772493)
Park made the CT-11 chain peening tool, but it seems to be discontinued. BikeToolsEtc was blowing them out for $20 a while ago, but they seem to be all gone now.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9f37bc3bbd.jpg

I bought one of those years ago when Campagnolo brought out 11 speed chains. I already had a good chain tool and all I needed was to be able to peen the pin. I was able to buy at wholesale prices back then so it wasn't a big expense. I have only used it a couple of times because I am running Campagnolo 10 speed but it is nice to have if I ever need it

Champy 01-18-23 07:33 PM

Waste of money

gt3racerich 01-28-23 10:54 AM

I bought the Missing links and tools but when I install them on the chain they are too tight and un usable (they squeeze the chain to tightly, not along the length of the chain but the width). It is a simple design and straight forward installation. Any ideas as to what the problem might be? It is the correct link for the chain.

HillRider 01-28-23 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by gt3racerich (Post 22783335)
I bought the Missing links and tools but when I install them on the chain they are too tight and un usable (they squeeze the chain to tightly, not along the length of the chain but the width). It is a simple design and straight forward installation. Any ideas as to what the problem might be? It is the correct link for the chain.

KMC makes "Missing Links" in a variety of widths for different speeds and makes of chains. The 10-speed link for Shimano is different for the one for Campy chains. Be sure you specified the correct link.

gt3racerich 01-29-23 07:23 AM

It is the correct link for the chain, unless it was packaged and labeled incorrectly.


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