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Mojo31 11-08-21 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300314)
Streaming shows will also freeze for a fraction of a second, at the same interval (approx every 15-20 minutes) as the Zwift power drop. I am confident it's the same internet freeze. I am also confident that my ISP will not fix it based on my conversations with them. I consider it a first world problem.

Not really a first world problem, more like a developing nation problem in the middle of the first world.

We have old school DSL internet through AT&T. As much as I hate dealing with that company, we rarely if ever have a problem with our service and it never freezes. That includes the times when the kids and their friends are at the house and we have multiple TVs, pads, phones, and computers going at the same time.

LAJ 11-08-21 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22300328)
I actually stopped, intending to end my ride, then I realized that I was very close to leveling up, and that one or two more miles would do it. 500-some-odd watts for 30-some-odd seconds got me back on to the group easy peasy. :p



Yeah, I understand how the math works, I just think that mileage is laughably inflated (relative to workload) because of situational absurdities and generous assumptions. I mean, yeah, if I had a closed course, 200 riding buddies and we could throw concerns of crashing out of the window, I don't doubt that I could managed 24mph on 200w NP. But, you know... reality.

Spot on. 24 on the road is not a steady 24 on the road. I should say rarely. As said, you're in a group, there are surges, sometimes huge, and as you're alluding to, people breathing out of their tonsils, trying to ride in a group.

datlas 11-08-21 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22300335)
Not really a first world problem, more like a developing nation problem in the middle of the first world.

We have old school DSL internet through AT&T. As much as I hate dealing with that company, we rarely if ever have a problem with our service and it never freezes. That includes the times when the kids and their friends are at the house and we have multiple TVs, pads, phones, and computers going at the same time.

We always wanted DSL BITD but never were able to get it. We went from old-fashioned dialup to fiber-optic FIOS. The FIOS really does work ok except for those super-short freezes. I have wasted several hours with their "customer service" and even "tech" people who insist they tested the connection and it's perfect. They say the problem is something inside our home. It's not. We have even tried switching WiFi routers and plugging the ethernet connection directly into our computer, and the problem persists. But since the problem only lasts a fraction of a second, it's going to be impossible to show/prove it to them. When this was first an issue a few years ago I was very frustrated, but I have accepted it.

It helps that I don't take Zwift too seriously. It's just a video game.

WhyFi 11-08-21 02:34 PM

Loaf #2 is out of the oven. Still not sourdough - sorry, datlas.

That said, I've been looking in to sourdough. I was tempted to start work on my starter, but my baking enthusiast niece reached out to me and may be providing me with some of her starter this weekend. We shall see.

genejockey 11-08-21 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22300328)
Yeah, I understand how the math works, I just think that mileage is laughably inflated (relative to workload) because of situational absurdities and generous assumptions. I mean, yeah, if I had a closed course, 200 riding buddies and we could throw concerns of crashing out of the window, I don't doubt that I could managed 24mph on 200w NP. But, you know... reality.

As I was waiting for other C&V riders on Saturday, somebody's 50+ rider group ride rolled by. Not sure how fast, but FAST! Pretty sure it was the famous/infamous Spectrum Ride. That stretch of road has about 6 miles of no stops, and fairly limited car traffic (there's a parallel freeway 1/4 mile away. I think that's about as close to Zwift's imaginary world as you'll get.

This ride goes on most of the same roads I ride, for the same reason - wide, rolling roads with few stop signs. I saw them again on their way back. They took up the entire side of the road, which probably rankles drivers, but bikes in CA are supposed to keep to the right if they're not going the speed of traffic. 50+ cyclists ARE the traffic!

phrantic09 11-08-21 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300357)
We always wanted DSL BITD but never were able to get it. We went from old-fashioned dialup to fiber-optic FIOS. The FIOS really does work ok except for those super-short freezes. I have wasted several hours with their "customer service" and even "tech" people who insist they tested the connection and it's perfect. They say the problem is something inside our home. It's not. We have even tried switching WiFi routers and plugging the ethernet connection directly into our computer, and the problem persists. But since the problem only lasts a fraction of a second, it's going to be impossible to show/prove it to them. When this was first an issue a few years ago I was very frustrated, but I have accepted it.

It helps that I don't take Zwift too seriously. It's just a video game.

I wonder if you have an incredibly short lease time on your IP which could create a “drop” every 20 mins

genejockey 11-08-21 02:48 PM

OH, YEAH! In addition to seeing the Spectrum Ride, I think I MIGHT have seen 'Sup Larry! There was a guy in gym shorts and no shirt, long blond hair, and a little heavy, who rode by at another point. I wasn't in a position to drope any hamers, or dial it up to 400W, or give him The Look, so I guess I'll never know.

BTW, I think I'll limit my Saturday AM riding to this one monthly C&V ride. The Spectrum Ride scares me. Not riding in it, because I'm not dumb enough to do that. Just being passed by it. A bunch of guys going really fast, all looking to move up in the pack all the time - I could imagine being ridden over. I can hold a line, but, WOW, are there a LOT of riders going REAL DAMN FAST!

WhyFi 11-08-21 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22300406)
OH, YEAH! In addition to seeing the Spectrum Ride, I think I MIGHT have seen 'Sup Larry! There was a guy in gym shorts and no shirt, long blond hair, and a little heavy, who rode by at another point. I wasn't in a position to drope any hamers, or dial it up to 400W, or give him The Look, so I guess I'll never know.

Post-removal of a vertebrae? :innocent:

datlas 11-08-21 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22300400)
I wonder if you have an incredibly short lease time on your IP which could create a “drop” every 20 mins

Is there a simple way for a moran like me to figure it out?

genejockey 11-08-21 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22300414)
Post-removal of a vertebrae? :innocent:

Yeah, that sounded a bit odd. I mean, they can't just take them out, right? Not without putting something else in there.

From my angle I couldn't tell whether he was feeling confident or not.

phrantic09 11-08-21 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300416)
Is there a simple way for a moran like me to figure it out?

If you know the admin credentials for your router and go to the DHCP settings it may tell you how long until your IP lease expires

LesterOfPuppets 11-08-21 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22299952)

Snowbirds rejoice! There's a bit of a line at Osoyoos

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...abc3cdfe58.jpg


https://www.pentictonwesternnews.com...-first-across/

genejockey 11-08-21 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22300484)
Snowbirds rejoice! There's a bit of a line at Osoyoos

Osoyoos?

"Osoyoos guys want to come to America?"

LesterOfPuppets 11-08-21 04:59 PM

Map of the day - India Edition.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6eae6824c.jpeg

Mojo31 11-08-21 05:04 PM

Seems like a fun project if you live in the Land O'Lakes.


genejockey 11-08-21 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22300571)
Seems like a fun project if you live in the Land O'Lakes.

Epic Cycling on Ice - YouTube

Imagine a peloton of those.

Now imagine a crash.

datlas 11-08-21 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22300566)

Easiest tourist destination for vegetarians IMO. When I was there it was never a problem.

Mojo31 11-08-21 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22300576)
Imagine a peloton of those.

Now imagine a crash.

I wouldn't even do it alone!

LesterOfPuppets 11-08-21 05:30 PM

Derp of the day - Microsoft edition:


WhyFi 11-08-21 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22300571)
Seems like a fun project if you live in the Land O'Lakes.

Epic Cycling on Ice - YouTube

Pfft. Addiction's resident tundra dweller posted that last year. TTKU.

Velo Vol 11-08-21 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22300378)
Loaf #2 is out of the oven. Still not sourdough - sorry, datlas.

Regular bread is better anyways.

MoAlpha 11-08-21 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300176)
I prefer to think of Zwift as a video game you can control with your bike. If you expect it to be realistic and represent the reality on the road, it could get you angry. It's especially mean if you get dropped from a group. Good luck getting back on. You know how I know.

Hadn’t noticed it being any harder than IRL.

Velo Vol 11-08-21 05:46 PM

Not a banner afternoon for Velo Vol. SMH.

MoAlpha 11-08-21 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 22300422)
If you know the admin credentials for your router and go to the DHCP settings it may tell you how long until your IP lease expires

Is it possible there could be a conflict with some other device, which might be solved by assigning a hard address to whatever he’s using to run Zwift?

WhyFi 11-08-21 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22300632)
Regular bread is better anyways.

Eh, good sourdough can be really good. It's at least worth experimenting.

Also, wouldn't sourdough be the "regular" bread, at least in terms of leavened breads?


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