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ciclista_pazza 08-30-21 03:40 PM

Rear light for Brompton for rear rack
 
I have a new Brompton and since i have the Brompton cover bag hanging from the saddle, I need a rear light that affixes to the rear rack (since the cover bag would cover up a light attached to the saddle). The bike shop I bought the Brompton from sold me a rear light by Solo that is the one shown here - https://www.perennialcycle.com/batte...-bro-1002.html - this light is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen. If you see that link I posted and see the images for this light, you can see that for some unknown reason, it only lights up on the very bottom portion of the light and apparently the remainder of it is a reflector. This is kind of ridiculous and to make it worse, it requires a battery and is made so that it's almost impossible to remove the cover to get to the batteries. The bike shop put it on before I bought it and I didn't realize until I got the bike home. Now I'm trying to figure out an alternative.

Can anyone recommend alternative rear lights that would work on the rear rack and that ideally have a USB charging option? Thanks.

Reddleman 08-30-21 10:02 PM

It might look a bit odd if you’re used to removable rear lights, but they do work quite well based on my experience of a similar model. Their battery life is also pretty good with only one LED to operate, so replacing the AA cells isn’t really a frequent operation. I would give it a go and see how you find it. I’ve not come across a USB charged version before.

Otherwise, you can get a rack adaptor for the Cateye style clip on light, and attach one there as and when required.

I can show you either option on 20” folders if that helps?

Sardines 09-01-21 05:37 PM

I believe it is for law (depending on where you are) to have a reflector in the front and rear. Having a battery lit one covers both with one fixture. Oddly, for the last few years, I've been the actual opposite of you. As USB lights have been flooding the market, I'd been resisting. For touring/bikepacking, an AA/AAA battery run light for the rear rack is what I wanted, instead of having to throw out USB LiPo/Ion lights once the batteries are done. I could buy alkaline batteries easily if my NiMH batteries are dead. Environmentally and practically, it's not great. However, those are lowered powered LEDs, and in the daytime, they aren't very visible. As I commute/ride more and more in some unlit roads, I finally broke down and got a Cygolite Hypershot 350 Pro, which is super bright with 2 LEDs and is MicroUSB charged. It's super bright for daytime use and has a bunch of flashing modes, which again depending on where you are, could be illegal. You will need to get the Cygolite rear rack mounting adapter for it too.

Originally Posted by ciclista_pazza (Post 22207866)
I have a new Brompton and since i have the Brompton cover bag hanging from the saddle, I need a rear light that affixes to the rear rack (since the cover bag would cover up a light attached to the saddle). The bike shop I bought the Brompton from sold me a rear light by Solo that is the one shown here - https://www.perennialcycle.com/batte...-bro-1002.html - this light is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen. If you see that link I posted and see the images for this light, you can see that for some unknown reason, it only lights up on the very bottom portion of the light and apparently the remainder of it is a reflector. This is kind of ridiculous and to make it worse, it requires a battery and is made so that it's almost impossible to remove the cover to get to the batteries. The bike shop put it on before I bought it and I didn't realize until I got the bike home. Now I'm trying to figure out an alternative.

Can anyone recommend alternative rear lights that would work on the rear rack and that ideally have a USB charging option? Thanks.


ciclista_pazza 09-02-21 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Reddleman (Post 22208344)
It might look a bit odd if you’re used to removable rear lights, but they do work quite well based on my experience of a similar model. Their battery life is also pretty good with only one LED to operate, so replacing the AA cells isn’t really a frequent operation. I would give it a go and see how you find it. I’ve not come across a USB charged version before.

Otherwise, you can get a rack adaptor for the Cateye style clip on light, and attach one there as and when required.

I can show you either option on 20” folders if that helps?

Thanks! Sorry not to reply sooner. I only sometimes get notifications that I got a response but not other times. Do you know how to remove the batteries on that light? I can't figure out how to open it and am afraid of damaging the light (as I have done this in the past when unsure how to get a light open).

ciclista_pazza 09-02-21 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Sardines (Post 22211181)
I believe it is for law (depending on where you are) to have a reflector in the front and rear. Having a battery lit one covers both with one fixture. Oddly, for the last few years, I've been the actual opposite of you. As USB lights have been flooding the market, I'd been resisting. For touring/bikepacking, an AA/AAA battery run light for the rear rack is what I wanted, instead of having to throw out USB LiPo/Ion lights once the batteries are done. I could buy alkaline batteries easily if my NiMH batteries are dead. Environmentally and practically, it's not great. However, those are lowered powered LEDs, and in the daytime, they aren't very visible. As I commute/ride more and more in some unlit roads, I finally broke down and got a Cygolite Hypershot 350 Pro, which is super bright with 2 LEDs and is MicroUSB charged. It's super bright for daytime use and has a bunch of flashing modes, which again depending on where you are, could be illegal. You will need to get the Cygolite rear rack mounting adapter for it too.

Thanks! Do you know if this "Cygolite Rack Mount for Hotshot" here - https://www.amazon.com/Cygolite-Rack.../dp/B009VUB0Q8 would work with that Hypershot light?

Reddleman 09-02-21 03:33 PM

As a fixed rear light by Spanninga, the cover unclips from the black back when you change the batteries - details are shown here: https://brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompto...ear-light.html

The adaptor you linked is the kind that works with most clip on lights, I use a similar one on another bike with an old Cannondale branded led rear light that I picked up somewhere.

ciclista_pazza 09-02-21 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Reddleman (Post 22212467)
As a fixed rear light by Spanninga, the cover unclips from the black back when you change the batteries - details are shown here: https://brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompto...ear-light.html

The adaptor you linked is the kind that works with most clip on lights, I use a similar one on another bike with an old Cannondale branded led rear light that I picked up somewhere.

That's very helpful. Thanks very much!

Sardines 09-02-21 10:01 PM

Yes. That's it.

Originally Posted by ciclista_pazza (Post 22212202)
Thanks! Do you know if this "Cygolite Rack Mount for Hotshot" here - https://www.amazon.com/Cygolite-Rack.../dp/B009VUB0Q8 would work with that Hypershot light?


bee-man 09-03-21 09:14 AM

Cateye has a product for rear racks (mentioned by Reddleman):

https://www.cateye.com/intl/products/parts/5445620/

If this bracket can be used in place of the reflector, then you will have a healthy selection of safety lights to choose from Cateye (scroll down in link).

​​​​​​I do not have a rack on my Brompton, but I replaced my rear reflector with this bracket and a rapid mini rechargeable light. Super easy to remove & install for charging. Love it.​​​

ciclista_pazza 09-03-21 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Sardines (Post 22212871)
Yes. That's it.

Thanks!

ciclista_pazza 09-03-21 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by bee-man (Post 22213330)
Cateye has a product for rear racks (mentioned by Reddleman):

https://www.cateye.com/intl/products/parts/5445620/

If this bracket can be used in place of the reflector, then you will have a healthy selection of safety lights to choose from Cateye (scroll down in link).

​​​​​​I do not have a rack on my Brompton, but I replaced my rear reflector with this bracket and a rapid mini rechargeable light. Super easy to remove & install for charging. Love it.​​​

Thanks! This is very helpful!

Sardines 09-04-21 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by ciclista_pazza (Post 22212556)
That's very helpful. Thanks very much!

Now that you've solved that riddle, I think you should be happy with that. Personally I think LiIon/Po battery powered lights are basically throwaway lights, and in this day and age, that's ridiculous. If you must have a flashing light, then consider changing it. Personally as a car driver, hyper bright flashing lights are annoying, but I do see the biker. So I want that visibility too!

bikebikebike 01-31-22 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by Sardines (Post 22214804)
Personally I think LiIon/Po battery powered lights are basically throwaway lights, and in this day and age, that's ridiculous.
If you must have a flashing light, then consider changing it. Personally as a car driver, hyper bright flashing lights are annoying, but I do see the biker. So I want that visibility too!

I hate dead electronics,
so often carry a spare power pack/usb battery for the phone and found it will get my lights and bike comp recharged as well.
it's easy to recharge at stops as well. Creative cheapskates like me can replace rechargeables,
but AA/AAA lights don't seem to outlast the USB ones in my experience (leaks/swithces/drops)

Flashing lights are annoying, but that's what gets them noticed, especially up front.
Too bright is too bright, and nicer taillights have a peloton setting (meh)
I think it is the novelty in them that helps get them noticed as well.

The Brommie is a pain to put Taillights on , so a hat/helmet mount works best for me

tcs 02-01-22 08:13 AM

I was looking at the official Brompton rear lamp mounted w/o a rack.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...abc1a906c4.png

It looks like it's much too low and would mostly shine on the rear brake and fender/mudguard. What am I missing?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...db3d0338df.png

CEBEP 02-07-22 07:06 PM

Looks to be an old thread but I'll share my experiences nevertheless. I found battery lights not suitable for my needs. I need to remember to charge them. So I decided to invest in high quality dynamo setup. Went with SON all around, dynamo wheel, from Edelux II and SON rear light. Install and forget. No servicing is required, while setup is water proof.

​​​​​While rear light is very bright it doesn't have blinking mode. Beside being annoying to anyone riding behind you, in total darkness it's almost impossible for a car driver behind you to calculate a distance based on blinking light. Hence blinking lights are prohibited in Germany for example.
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bee-man 02-10-22 02:04 AM


Originally Posted by tcs (Post 22394795)
I was looking at the official Brompton rear lamp mounted w/o a rack.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...abc1a906c4.png

It looks like it's much too low and would mostly shine on the rear brake and fender/mudguard. What am I missing?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...db3d0338df.png

It is true. Though not ideal, I think my rapid mini is able to be seen.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fb2ac7d96.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...555f6fa44.jpeg


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