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Velo Vol 11-08-21 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22299970)
Maine also.

Nope. They've even got a fancy coin!


indyfabz 11-08-21 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22299970)
Looks like Washington, Montana and North Dakota need to take a lesson from Tejas and build a friggin wall.

Maine also.

I’ve entered MT using 2 of them. One of them, and a third one, I have left the state through.

When a couple of us showed up at Del Bonito we had to wait for several minutes for someone to appear. Guy wearing aviator sunglasses with a cigarette dangling from his lips finally comes out of a garage wiping grease off his hands. He asks us if we’re American citizens and how long we had been in Canada. We answer, he says “Welcome home.” and walks away, having never asked for ID. That was pre-911.

Velo Vol 11-08-21 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22300091)
When a couple of us showed up at Del Bonito we had to wait for several minutes for someone to appear.

Looks like a car wash.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c2b1defd26.jpg

WhyFi 11-08-21 11:08 AM

I decided to do an easy Zwift ride and farm some drops with a pace partner. HUGE peloton surrounding the pace partner and super flat course. Ended up averaging 24mph with an NP just under 200w... So yeah, *totally* realistic. :roflmao2:

LesterOfPuppets 11-08-21 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22300091)
I’ve entered MT using 2 of them. One of them, and a third one, I have left the state through.

When a couple of us showed up at Del Bonito we had to wait for several minutes for someone to appear. Guy wearing aviator sunglasses with a cigarette dangling from his lips finally comes out of a garage wiping grease off his hands. He asks us if we’re American citizens and how long we had been in Canada. We answer, he says “Welcome home.” and walks away, having never asked for ID. That was pre-911.

We had to strip to our boxers at Blaine, WA on the way to Canada in '92. My friend in the passenger seat was a hair farmer though, very suspicious! :)
What really got 'em going was the six half-gallon Mason jars full of hot-of-the-stove bean soup in the back.
"What's in the jars?"
"Soup"
"Why is it warm?"
"Cuz we just poured it in to jars when we left Portland"

We made it back in to the USA at Osoyoos without incident.

indyfabz 11-08-21 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22300128)
We had to strip to our boxers at Blaine, WA on the way to Canada in '92. My friend in the passenger seat was a hair farmer though, very suspicious! :)
What really got 'em going was the six half-gallon Mason jars full of hot-of-the-stove bean soup in the back.
"What's in the jars?"
"Soup"
"Why is it warm?"
"Cuz we just poured it in to jars when we left Portland"

We made it back in to the USA at Osoyoos without incident.

The ex and I got the 3rd degree entering AB from Rooseville, MT. Got asked things like what we did for livings. Then the agent fired off "What's you next day back at work?" It was the 3rd day of the trip and the only the 2nd day of riding. I didn;t know what date it was, only that is was Saturday. All I could muster was "A week from this coming Monday." When we crossed back into MT at Chief Mountain. the two young agents could not have more pleasant. They even barked at the car in line behind. Apparently, the driver thought that he did not have wait at the marked line because we were on bikes ahead of him. They told us how Canadians liked to come to the state and try to sneak back beer and cigarettes because they were much cheaper.

When I crossed into Port Erie, ON from Buffalo and asked for a passport stamp the agent literally rolled her eyes at me and reluctantly gave me a "courtesy" stamp.

Velo Vol 11-08-21 11:36 AM

Velo Vol's border crossing log:

Roosville, AL*
North Portal, SK*
Sault Ste. Marie, ON
Windsor, ON
Niagara Falls, ON
Hill Island, ON

*maybe

indyfabz 11-08-21 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22300110)

Judging from the flag, that's the Canadian office.

Over 70 miles from Magrath, AB to Cut Bank, MT. Other than a Hutterite colony just south of Magrath and a small general store just north of the Del Bonita crossing there was basically nothing but empty prairie. And wind.

Velo Vol 11-08-21 11:51 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22299857)
Trash day.

All day?

datlas 11-08-21 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22300121)
I decided to do an easy Zwift ride and farm some drops with a pace partner. HUGE peloton surrounding the pace partner and super flat course. Ended up averaging 24mph with an NP just under 200w... So yeah, *totally* realistic. :roflmao2:

I prefer to think of Zwift as a video game you can control with your bike. If you expect it to be realistic and represent the reality on the road, it could get you angry. It's especially mean if you get dropped from a group. Good luck getting back on. You know how I know.

genejockey 11-08-21 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22300121)
I decided to do an easy Zwift ride and farm some drops with a pace partner. HUGE peloton surrounding the pace partner and super flat course. Ended up averaging 24mph with an NP just under 200w... So yeah, *totally* realistic. :roflmao2:

Just for grins, I ran some numbers through Bike Calculator. Assuming 0% grade, 200W, no headwind, 170# rider and 20# bike, riding aerobars (since you were in a peloton), estimated speed is 23mph. So, not THAT far off.

Mojo31 11-08-21 11:58 AM

Other than some forays into Mexico from McAllen and El Paso as a ute, all my border crossing have been in the air.

genejockey 11-08-21 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300176)
I prefer to think of Zwift as a video game you can control with your bike. If you expect it to be realistic and represent the reality on the road, it could get you angry. It's especially mean if you get dropped from a group. Good luck getting back on. You know how I know.

This. Though I, "that you control with your legs".

Catching back onto a fast group, though, seems to be in line with my experience IRL - you don't. I remember missing the rollout of the club ride I used to go on 20 years ago, and if they were 100 yards ahead I'd never catch them. They weren't even going hard at that point.

LesterOfPuppets 11-08-21 12:06 PM

Super Guppy alert:

She's about to land at Buckley AFB in Aurora, CO

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...630Z/KELP/KBKF

datlas 11-08-21 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22300192)
This. Though I, "that you control with your legs".

Catching back onto a fast group, though, seems to be in line with my experience IRL - you don't. I remember missing the rollout of the club ride I used to go on 20 years ago, and if they were 100 yards ahead I'd never catch them. They weren't even going hard at that point.

I will agree with legs.

My internet drops the signal every 20 minutes or so, which drops my power to 0, and even on a "casual" ride with friends, I have a very hard time catching the group. In real life, with a chain drop or similar, I have much less difficulty getting back.

Mojo31 11-08-21 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300204)
I will agree with legs.

My internet drops the signal every 20 minutes or so, which drops my power to 0, and even on a "casual" ride with friends, I have a very hard time catching the group. In real life, with a chain drop or similar, I have much less difficulty getting back.

You need better internet.

LAJ 11-08-21 12:21 PM

Zwift does not give you the satisfaction of turning towards home and realizing you have a nice little headwind on tap for the next hour or so. As you're riding in this headwind, you realize the neighbors tree that normally drops leaves in your yard, are now being deposited in the rightful owners yard. Bikes rule.

genejockey 11-08-21 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300204)
I will agree with legs.

My internet drops the signal every 20 minutes or so, which drops my power to 0, and even on a "casual" ride with friends, I have a very hard time catching the group. In real life, with a chain drop or similar, I have much less difficulty getting back.

For me, it's the Companion App that keeps dropping.

The other night I was doing one of the structured workouts, during which I find it REALLY handy to keep the iPhone with the Companion App running so if I feel the need I can reduce the FTP bias. And it dropped out of the game. As it turned out, the 2nd and 3rd intervals were doable, so I didn't need to drop the bias, but I panicked a bit trying to remember the keyboard shortcut, and telling myself NOT to hit ESC.

datlas 11-08-21 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22300216)
You need better internet.

Yes. But this is as good as it gets. It's quite fast but freezes, and the idiots at Verizon won't fix it. Sad.

Mojo31 11-08-21 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300235)
Yes. But this is as good as it gets. It's quite fast but freezes, and the idiots at Verizon won't fix it. Sad.

Different provider?

datlas 11-08-21 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22300249)
Different provider?

That would be a huge hassle. If I really cared about Zwift, maybe. I consider it a game so not worth changing. The alternative is Comcast Xfinity which is slower than FIOS.

Mojo31 11-08-21 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300272)
That would be a huge hassle. If I really cared about Zwift, maybe. I consider it a game so not worth changing. The alternative is Comcast Xfinity which is slower than FIOS.

Maybe when you have grand kids. ;)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f7dd0c2d65.jpg

Can you watch streaming shows without freezing?

indyfabz 11-08-21 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300235)
Yes. But this is as good as it gets. It's quite fast but freezes, and the idiots at Verizon won't fix it. Sad.

Heh. Did you see this on Saturday? Hilarious.



datlas 11-08-21 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22300293)
Maybe when you have grand kids. ;)

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f7dd0c2d65.jpg

Can you watch streaming shows without freezing?

Streaming shows will also freeze for a fraction of a second, at the same interval (approx every 15-20 minutes) as the Zwift power drop. I am confident it's the same internet freeze. I am also confident that my ISP will not fix it based on my conversations with them. I consider it a first world problem.

WhyFi 11-08-21 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22300176)
I prefer to think of Zwift as a video game you can control with your bike. If you expect it to be realistic and represent the reality on the road, it could get you angry. It's especially mean if you get dropped from a group. Good luck getting back on. You know how I know.

I actually stopped, intending to end my ride, then I realized that I was very close to leveling up, and that one or two more miles would do it. 500-some-odd watts for 30-some-odd seconds got me back on to the group easy peasy. :p


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22300177)
Just for grins, I ran some numbers through Bike Calculator. Assuming 0% grade, 200W, no headwind, 170# rider and 20# bike, riding aerobars (since you were in a peloton), estimated speed is 23mph. So, not THAT far off.

Yeah, I understand how the math works, I just think that mileage is laughably inflated (relative to workload) because of situational absurdities and generous assumptions. I mean, yeah, if I had a closed course, 200 riding buddies and we could throw concerns of crashing out of the window, I don't doubt that I could managed 24mph on 200w NP. But, you know... reality.


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