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Road Fan 03-30-19 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by PeterLYoung (Post 20860155)
That is very nice, I would think pretty rare, there are people asking around $300 for just the benelux changer kit NIB on EBay!!!!!

It looks like your freewheel attaches with a snap ring, which is good for me.

My cotter pin situation took three weeks. I DO NOT want to repeat it.

52telecaster 03-30-19 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 20861577)
Watching her in A Boy a Girl etc. I was thinking a very young Anne Francis? (Cf. Forbidden Planet.) Did you catch the couple on the tandem with the sidecar for the baby? I think they are the ones where the guy gets hauled off at the end for desertion. What in gods name did that have to do with the main story? The rich guy suddenly announcing at the end that he's "not the marrying sort" AFTER proposing marriage came as a slight surprise.

Yeah, the end of that movie was bizarre. Loved the sidecar though and the idea of camping with your bicycle buddies is awesome.

carfreefamily 03-30-19 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln (Post 20861746)
One day I have to try mounting the fork there.

Yeah, somehow I get the feeling the fork is not mounted properly in the photograph.

Fat Tire Trader 03-30-19 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Road Fan (Post 20861590)
Great! So that looks like a chain tensioner, not a derailleur. Have you used it? I haven't decided which way I would go.

Are you interested in selling it?

It is a derailleur, not a chain tensioner.
I think the one I have in the picture is NOS. I have an operative prewar version of this derailleur on a Phillips.
I have two of these postwar Cyclo Standards. One I am saving for my Higgins Ultralite which has the braze-on on the chainstay. I am the second owner of the bike, the original owner had set up the bike single fixed and I have kept it that way so far. The hub is double threaded fixed/free, so I have the option of making it a three speed.

gster 03-30-19 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by carfreefamily (Post 20862227)
Yeah, somehow I get the feeling the fork is not mounted properly in the photograph.

Hey!
Give me a chance. I got a whole plan here for a radical departure in bicycle geometry....
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5779b431f.jpg

Road Fan 03-31-19 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Fat Tire Trader (Post 20862373)
It is a derailleur, not a chain tensioner.
I think the one I have in the picture is NOS. I have an operative prewar version of this derailleur on a Phillips.
I have two of these postwar Cyclo Standards. One I am saving for my Higgins Ultralite which has the braze-on on the chainstay. I am the second owner of the bike, the original owner had set up the bike single fixed and I have kept it that way so far. The hub is double threaded fixed/free, so I have the option of making it a three speed.

The reason I said it looks like a chain tensioner is that I don't see where that one is actuated. How is it made to shift? On the other Cyclo Benelux that was shown (by thumpism) there is a chain going into a hole, like a Sturmey AW. How is this actuated to shift a gear?

I can't say I know vintage/antique derailleur products well at all.

Edit: Ok, I found a description in disraeligears.com. It's a Cyclo Standard, and it operates using a single cable running parallel to the chainstay. The attachment point for the cable is hidden in your picture.

Are you interested in selling it?

arty dave 03-31-19 05:39 AM

Gster this 28 x 1 1/2 Dunlop Westwood rim is in Ontario but they don't mention how many spoke holes. CAD$40 Might be worth asking?
https://www.hoopriderparts.com/28_x_1_12_British_635_Westwood_Rim/p2289761_15350043.aspx

gster 03-31-19 06:21 AM


Originally Posted by arty dave (Post 20862704)
Gster this 28 x 1 1/2 Dunlop Westwood rim is in Ontario but they don't mention how many spoke holes. CAD$40 Might be worth asking?
https://www.hoopriderparts.com/28_x_..._15350043.aspx

Hey!
Thanks for that.
I'd forgotten about those guys.
I've got to make a run up to Bracebridge in the next
couple of weeks (vintage boat motor) so could visit
these guys as well.
Greg

gster 03-31-19 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by arty dave (Post 20862704)
Gster this 28 x 1 1/2 Dunlop Westwood rim is in Ontario but they don't mention how many spoke holes. CAD$40 Might be worth asking?
https://www.hoopriderparts.com/28_x_..._15350043.aspx

I had a look through their catalogue and they seem to have a good selection of British NOS stock.

Dan Burkhart 03-31-19 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by arty dave (Post 20862704)
Gster this 28 x 1 1/2 Dunlop Westwood rim is in Ontario but they don't mention how many spoke holes. CAD$40 Might be worth asking?
https://www.hoopriderparts.com/28_x_..._15350043.aspx

In the product description, it says 36 hole

gster 03-31-19 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart (Post 20862835)
In the product description, it says 36 hole

The original wheels on the Hercules are
40H (rear) and 32H (front)
My replacement NOS rear is 40H
I've never really thought about these differences before....

Road Fan 03-31-19 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20861704)

The tandem doesn't fit Patrick McNee or Diana Rigg, but it's a real interesting piece anyway! Very 1950s.

dweenk 03-31-19 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20862445)
Hey!
Give me a chance. I got a whole plan here for a radical departure in bicycle geometry....
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b5779b431f.jpg

That is a devilish idea. Viva Didi!

3speedslow 03-31-19 03:01 PM

They’re gonna need Luk trying to stop that thing!

arty dave 03-31-19 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Dan Burkhart (Post 20862835)
In the product description, it says 36 hole


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20863093)
The original wheels on the Hercules are
40H (rear) and 32H (front)
My replacement NOS rear is 40H
I've never really thought about these differences before....

Gotta learn to read more proper soonly...
I keep drooling over these 635mm alloy westwoods...$115 for a pair shipped in my money (AUD). They have 32 hole and 36 hole but no 40 - plus you have the choice of black or black, but I guess you could strip and polish them.
https://hollandbikeshop.com/en-gb/bi...bike-28-1-1-2/
you can change the currency in the top menu bar and if you click on order you can get a shipping quote
I almost pulled the trigger on a pair last year for a roadster build, but then found a cheap parts roadster with the front westwood I needed. Almost all of the Australian westwood rims I've seen are painted rather than chromed - so are a bit lighter. Possibly a hangover from war-time cutbacks?

JohnDThompson 03-31-19 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20861704)

Doesn't anybody make a helmet that looks like a bowler hat? :)

gster 03-31-19 04:13 PM

Metal Rescue Review
This product does work.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...98452a6785.jpg
The two cranks and chainwheel.
The clean crank has been partially submerged for two days and was
in as bad shape as the drive side which was put in just now.
Periodic brushing with a soft brass brush helps the process.
The product turns from clear to black as it works and must be used
at room temperature.
The parts should be clean and free of grease/oil etc.

gster 03-31-19 04:16 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...02da80cfb1.jpg

dweenk 03-31-19 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20863423)
Metal Rescue Review
This product does work.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...98452a6785.jpg
The two cranks and chainwheel.
The clean crank has been partially submerged for two days and was
in as bad shape as the drive side which was put in just now.
Periodic brushing with a soft brass brush helps the process.
The product turns from clear to black as it works and must be used
at room temperature.

It seems to be like Evaporust - works best in warm temps, and likes clean rusted metal (as in no dirt, grease or oil). How much does it cost?

gster 03-31-19 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by arty dave (Post 20863354)
Gotta learn to read more proper soonly...
I keep drooling over these 635mm alloy westwoods...$115 for a pair shipped in my money (AUD). They have 32 hole and 36 hole but no 40 - plus you have the choice of black or black, but I guess you could strip and polish them.
https://hollandbikeshop.com/en-gb/bi...bike-28-1-1-2/
you can change the currency in the top menu bar and if you click on order you can get a shipping quote
I almost pulled the trigger on a pair last year for a roadster build, but then found a cheap parts roadster with the front westwood I needed. Almost all of the Australian westwood rims I've seen are painted rather than chromed - so are a bit lighter. Possibly a hangover from war-time cutbacks?

The original front wheel could go back in in the meantime until a suitable replacement is found.
It's quite true, spins freely and the tube holds air!
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5fd9873166.jpg
We've had an unexpected and unpleasant snowstorm today that has put any outdoor work on hold.

gster 03-31-19 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by dweenk (Post 20863434)
It seems to be like Evaporust - works best in warm temps, and likes clean rusted metal (as in no dirt, grease or oil). How much does it cost?

It was $36.00 (CDN) for a gallon.

gster 04-01-19 09:11 AM

Rim Question
Here's a Dunlop Westwood wheel that's available locally, listed as
28 x 1 3/4 622 ISO
32h hub
Good price.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...184777541b.jpg
Is it suitable for the 1930 Hercules?
Can you get tires/tubes for this size?
Will 28 x 1 1/2 tires fit (I have these)?
The rear wheel fits nicely in the frame and
spins freely.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...041fef269d.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e237f0ae34.jpg

clubman 04-01-19 12:06 PM

I'd go with the 622 because of the abundance of rims and tires although most are 36 hole. George can probably help you out?

Almost all the Brit roadsters I've seen in Canada have had the 622 (700c) rims. As I've posted before, Dunlop made special Canadian sizes for almost every style of bike.

gster 04-01-19 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by clubman (Post 20864684)
I'd go with the 622 because of the abundance of rims and tires although most are 36 hole. George can probably help you out?

Almost all the Brit roadsters I've seen in Canada have had the 622 (700c) rims. As I've posted before, Dunlop made special Canadian sizes for almost every style of bike.

Thanks for the advice.
This rim, 28 x 1 1/2 (635) came from George.
NOS taken off an Indian bicycle years ago.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...40136d0159.jpg
I've got this wheel on a bike in the garage and I remember now that the tire size was confusing.
British VS. Canadian
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a835a78b0a.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2c5723abfc.jpg

Ged117 04-02-19 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 20864793)
Thanks for the advice.
This rim, 28 x 1 1/2 (635) came from George.
NOS taken off an Indian bicycle years ago.

I've got this wheel on a bike in the garage and I remember now that the tire size was confusing.
British VS. Canadian
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a835a78b0a.jpg

The replacement wheel on my Raleigh Superbe is this one, but in size 26 x 1 3/8. Neat. Same V160 name and made in Canada.

For my 1975 Peugeot AO8 Sturmey FW four-speed project, I'm looking for a cable pulley and fulcrum thingy. I know somebody here had metal ones, but I can't remember who.


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