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Doge 01-11-21 12:01 AM


Originally Posted by TMonk (Post 21872113)
... same level as your son...

was.

JLTD 01-11-21 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by denvertrout (Post 21871007)
I lost the drive for KOM's this season. My strongest season yet, but watching other friends basically plan a ride just to get a KOM, blah. I still go for some if I am out for a ride and the timing works out, but otherwise just go about and do my thing.


Originally Posted by rubiksoval (Post 21871844)
How else do you get a KOM?

Genuinely curious. I don't even live in a heavily populated area, but nearly every single KOM worth mentioning is held by a pretty good Cat 1 or 2 (with a select few held by a former TdF jersey wearer). There aren't many KOMs you can just roll through in the middle of a workout and get a crown around here, and again, I'm talking segments with only 200-300 users. They all have to be planned and targeted.

Agree with this. I don't know about planning an entire ride around a KOM effort, but even if so I don't see how that's a bad thing if that's what you're in to. For sure anything of "value" as far as segments go around here isn't just gonna fall into your lap. I'm in Utah, lots of big time climbs, we also have (or had) the Tour of Utah and plenty of pro's train here so if someone wants to get after a competitive KOM it's not gonna happen by accident. Leaderboards are pretty stacked but I'm pretty sure that's the idea of a KOM or FKT for the non-Strava crowd. Nobody in this thread is hating on Strava, but when people do it's kinda silly. You don't have to like what someone else likes, if a dude is into KOM hunting and he's strong enough to go get them, get after it! This is a hobby that we do for fun!

furiousferret 01-11-21 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by JLTD (Post 21873474)
Agree with this. I don't know about planning an entire ride around a KOM effort, but even if so I don't see how that's a bad thing if that's what you're in to. For sure anything of "value" as far as segments go around here isn't just gonna fall into your lap. I'm in Utah, lots of big time climbs, we also have (or had) the Tour of Utah and plenty of pro's train here so if someone wants to get after a competitive KOM it's not gonna happen by accident. Leaderboards are pretty stacked but I'm pretty sure that's the idea of a KOM or FKT for the non-Strava crowd. Nobody in this thread is hating on Strava, but when people do it's kinda silly. You don't have to like what someone else likes, if a dude is into KOM hunting and he's strong enough to go get them, get after it! This is a hobby that we do for fun!

We had a guy that was famous for getting KOMs. He died running a stop sign on a residential street at about 35 mph. Considering that was on a segment he did not have, you can draw conclusions.

I personally don't consider KOMs on descents or ones that require you to run signs or lights legitimate, just out of the principal of safety. That eliminates probably 80% of ours right there.

Everyone around here know what the legit KOMs are, I'm sure every cycling town does.


Originally Posted by rubiksoval (Post 21871844)
How else do you get a KOM?

Genuinely curious. I don't even live in a heavily populated area, but nearly every single KOM worth mentioning is held by a pretty good Cat 1 or 2 (with a select few held by a former TdF jersey wearer). There aren't many KOMs you can just roll through in the middle of a workout and get a crown around here, and again, I'm talking segments with only 200-300 users. They all have to be planned and targeted.

Our team basically does timed pulls. They go up in 2-3 people with the KOM chaser at the back. Sometimes I'd be at the front but usually I'd be a mile or 2 up the road for a fresh pull. We broke one of Phil Gaimon's KOMs that way...well we got a section of it but we didn't get full climb the up 38.

A lot of these KOMs are essentially on training rides of semi pros (Phil Gaimon has a boatload), or during the Redlands Classic Race.

gsteinb 01-11-21 06:22 PM

I still don't even use a computer with GPS.

denvertrout 01-11-21 07:34 PM

LOL, I don't try unless on my ride I am going through a segment that fits my planned route, I feel great, and the wind is favorable. I mainly ride in the Boulder area, good lord there are a lot of fast guys and girls there.

My buddies I often ride with, plan the route based on the wind and the segment to correspond to trying to get a KOM. That does nothing for me. To each his own though. Nothing against anyone who does. I ride with great people, and I love going fast just as much as them. The only segments around me with 200 users is in someones neighborhood, certainly not any hills around here, nor any of the roads I ride.

caloso 01-12-21 01:53 PM

I just got a new Garmin that has some pop-up that says whether I'm on a Strava segment. Super annoying. I need to figure out how to turn it off.

waterrockets 01-12-21 02:06 PM

I may have to quit Strava. WR Jr. went and did the hill behind our house 2s slower than my PR during his 1' test. Ugh.

gregf83 01-12-21 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by caloso (Post 21874834)
I just got a new Garmin that has some pop-up that says whether I'm on a Strava segment. Super annoying. I need to figure out how to turn it off.

Menu->Training->Strava Live Segments->Segment Options

caloso 01-12-21 03:55 PM

Thank you. I was doing intervals on Sunday afternoon and it keeps telling me I'm riding on segments I created myself.

rubiksoval 01-12-21 05:58 PM

I've gotten my time trial bike set up after having it hang on the wall for the last four years. I'm seriously contemplating taking every KOM within a 10 mile radius of my house now. Every single one. It looks soooo fast.

2021 goals!

:lol:

TMonk 01-12-21 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by rubiksoval (Post 21875170)
I've gotten my time trial bike set up after having it hang on the wall for the last four years. I'm seriously contemplating taking every KOM within a 10 mile radius of my house now. Every single one. It looks soooo fast.

2021 goals!

:lol:

Do it!

Do you have a TT helmet/disc wheel/skinsuit and all the goodies???

burnthesheep 01-13-21 08:40 AM

Time in position matters a good bit on the TT bike for the longer segments. Shorter ones in the 5min and less range, sure, it won't matter at all. Just set it up safely and hunker down.

Just to say..........I get a lot of people always are like "If only I had a TT bike I could be a hero". They equate the purchase with the outcome.

It's more accurate to say "if I had a TT bike, and trained on it at least 50% of my rides, and have spent hours doing aero testing my position and components........and.....and.....".

rubiksoval 01-13-21 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by TMonk (Post 21875273)
Do it!

Do you have a TT helmet/disc wheel/skinsuit and all the goodies???

Yes, well, helmet and skinsuit. But I wouldn't roll that stuff out for segments. Shouldn't be that big a need for it. :D

rubiksoval 01-13-21 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by burnthesheep (Post 21875810)
Time in position matters a good bit on the TT bike for the longer segments. Shorter ones in the 5min and less range, sure, it won't matter at all. Just set it up safely and hunker down.

Just to say..........I get a lot of people always are like "If only I had a TT bike I could be a hero". They equate the purchase with the outcome.

It's more accurate to say "if I had a TT bike, and trained on it at least 50% of my rides, and have spent hours doing aero testing my position and components........and.....and.....".

Ah! But fortunately, I've spent this entire summer riding my road bike pretty aggressively. I had to start off with only doing it 2-3 minutes at a time because it was so uncomfortable and then building up from there.

My TT bike aero pads are actually a little higher than my road bike bar on which I rest my forearms (because my road bars are lower for sprinting). I run 165 cranks on both bikes, and saddle position is nearly identical.

I've only tested it out so far and am hoping to do a proper ride today, but position wise I think it should be very feasible to hold fur a good duration.


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