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datlas 02-04-22 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22398413)
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"And while that's not the worst way to think about the games we play, it does betray a puritanical streak in American culture: a sense that pleasure must be qualified, that fun must be intellectualized, that vice must be transformed into virtue."

This does not just apply to a silly online game. When sound advice is given, there now seems to be a rider to it... "Likely half the country will not follow this advice..." Virtue doesn't just apply to vice, in this new world. Advice must be somehow intellectualized, and those that don't accept it, no matter how trivial, are somehow made to feel "less".

It's a ******g game.

I was not aware that the New York Times refused to publish crossword puzzles for several decades because they thought they were lowbrow. The Times have/has changed.

ls01 02-04-22 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22398372)
I'm not asking about everyone. What about special patients who have chronic inflammation, anemia, are taking daily steroids, probable bone density issues, but otherwise are doing just fine? Is there likely a problem caused by ingesting 600 - 4,000 IU?

I take 5000 iu everyday.

Velo Vol 02-04-22 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 22398427)
I take 5000 iu everyday.

Might explain your confusion.


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datlas 02-04-22 09:06 AM

I don't take any D. Not a big fan of supplements, except B12 if your are vegan.

Eric F 02-04-22 09:12 AM

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rjones28 02-04-22 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22398308)
Hey big john forgive me for more questions about rides your way, but here is a route I got from the Pasadena Trek website, they have several posted. They "say" it's a road bike route but this route from Pasadena to Mt Wilson looks like much of it is on a trail or gravel. https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32044357

I am guessing this one is a better one for Mt Wilson as it seems to be no gravel. https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32007710

Comments? OK to PM me to minimize noise in this place.

We're all about noise in this place.

datlas 02-04-22 09:40 AM

lplo

datlas 02-04-22 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22398491)
We're all about noise in this place.

Agree, but the quality is somewhat variable. You know what I mean.

big john 02-04-22 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22398308)
Hey big john forgive me for more questions about rides your way, but here is a route I got from the Pasadena Trek website, they have several posted. They "say" it's a road bike route but this route from Pasadena to Mt Wilson looks like much of it is on a trail or gravel. https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32044357

I am guessing this one is a better one for Mt Wilson as it seems to be no gravel. https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32007710

Comments? OK to PM me to minimize noise in this place.

The first one is the "Toll Road". It's dirt and the last time I climbed it (years ago) it was very rough and rocky but I looked at a recent video and it looks to be rideable for gravel type bikes. I don't know the stats but it's a lot of climbing in a short distance. Oops, the link says 5000+ feet in 15 miles.

The second one is Angeles Crest, highway 2. The link ends, turns around at Clear Creek, which is the intersection with Angeles Forest highway. The top of Wilson is about 10 miles further.

An alternate to climbing the lower section of AC would be to travel north on Foothill blvd to Mount Gleason ave to Big Tujunga to Angeles Forest to Angeles Crest.

On workdays people use Angeles Forest to Angeles Crest to get to L.A. from the desert. So commuters would be descending Angeles Crest in the morning in what is described as "The Palmdale 500".

Noise?

datlas 02-04-22 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22398496)
The first one is the "Toll Road". It's dirt and the last time I climbed it (years ago) it was very rough and rocky but I looked at a recent video and it looks to be rideable for gravel type bikes. I don't know the stats but it's a lot of climbing in a short distance. Oops, the link says 5000+ feet in 15 miles.

The second one is Angeles Crest, highway 2. The link ends, turns around at Clear Creek, which is the intersection with Angeles Forest highway. The top of Wilson is about 10 miles further.

An alternate to climbing the lower section of AC would be to travel north on Foothill blvd to Mount Gleason ave to Big Tujunga to Angeles Forest to Angeles Crest.

On workdays people use Angeles Forest to Angeles Crest to get to L.A. from the desert. So commuters would be descending Angeles Crest in the morning in what is described as "The Palmdale 500".

Noise?

Got it. Thanks. I may have more questions as my trip gets closer. Fingers crossed the weather allows me to summit some of the climbs there like Baldy. It looks like daytime high temps there are running around 40F which is tolerable, as long as the roads don't have snow on them.

Velo Vol 02-04-22 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22398452)
I don't take any D. Not a big fan of supplements, except B12 if your are vegan.

If your levels are normal, there may be no need.

Are everyone's levels normal?

datlas 02-04-22 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22398506)
If your levels are normal, there may be no need.

Are everyone's levels normal?

What is "normal" or "optimal" D level is very controversial. And many of us think a low D is a marker for poor health rather than being a "vitamin deficiency." Vitamin D is not even really a vitamin, it's a hormone.

Bottom line is that it's complicated and the answers to you questions are not clear.

Velo Vol 02-04-22 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22398516)
What is "normal" or "optimal" D level is very controversial. And many of us think a low D is a marker for poor health rather than being a "vitamin deficiency." Vitamin D is not even really a vitamin, it's a hormone.

Bottom line is that it's complicated and the answers to you questions are not clear.

Of course. Like how they don't know if microbiome variations cause disease or are the effect of disease.

Such is the stuff witch doctory is made of!

big john 02-04-22 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22398504)
Got it. Thanks. I may have more questions as my trip gets closer. Fingers crossed the weather allows me to summit some of the climbs there like Baldy. It looks like daytime high temps there are running around 40F which is tolerable, as long as the roads don't have snow on them.

Here is an old favorite.
Bike Route Planner - Ride with GPS

MoAlpha 02-04-22 10:35 AM

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datlas 02-04-22 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22398569)

Maybe feminist men have more opportunities?

datlas 02-04-22 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22398543)
Here is an old favorite.
Bike Route Planner - Ride with GPS

Does not load a route for me.

MoAlpha 02-04-22 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22398342)
Going to have a sporty sail this morning. Wind and seas are up. Should be fun.

I assume that thing rides like the Nimitz...until a wave hits the bridgedeck.

MoAlpha 02-04-22 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22398571)
Maybe feminist men have more opportunities?

Having always been one myself:innocent:...but it's all about the last encounter, so shouldn't be sensitive to frequency.

genejockey 02-04-22 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22398571)
Maybe feminist men have more opportunities?

"...even after controlling for...erection difficulties..."

Huh.

big john 02-04-22 10:45 AM

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WhyFi 02-04-22 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22398569)
Submitted without comment.

Huh. Medical health messages tailored because of the socio-political views of the patient. Interesting.

big john 02-04-22 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22398572)
Does not load a route for me.

Now?
Bike Route Planner - Ride with GPS

MoAlpha 02-04-22 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22398580)
"...even after controlling for...erection difficulties..."

Huh.

I assume that was applied at the group level, otherwise, yeah, it makes no sense. ...maybe not even then.

genejockey 02-04-22 11:03 AM

I know too many words with 4/5 letters the same.
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BillyD 02-04-22 11:05 AM

First of all, does "Feminist-identified men" mean these are guys who identify as gay?

DougRNS 02-04-22 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22398422)
Speaking of whom, this morning I got a message from them that they can't refill my MTX because "we don't have any recent labs."

Readers of this thread will recall that I was just there on Tuesday for 2+ hours for an infusion, during which time they could have easily done said labs.

Now I'm trying to send a report from the other place from October, hoping that will suffice.

She wanted me to FAX it to them, circa 1993.

THESE PEOPLE. SMH. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

I feel for you and have gone through the BS way too much. Being a patient sucks. You must be very patient.

datlas 02-04-22 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22398594)

Yes looks good. I will put it on the "to do" list along with assault on Baldy.

LAJ 02-04-22 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22398613)
First of all, does "Feminist-identified men" mean these are guys who identify as gay?

That's not the way I read it.

datlas 02-04-22 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22398613)
First of all, does "Feminist-identified men" mean these are guys who identify as gay?

I think being gay and being a feminist are two separate things.


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