' APD [Albuquerque] placing 22 bike officers throughout the city'
https://www.abqjournal.com/1344443/a...-the-city.html
Do these guys do any good? I see them around, haven't seen them addressing any crime. The shared-use trails are safer than the rest of Albuquerque. Homeless living on them are the only problem. I almost ran over one at night |
Think about how much more aware of our surroundings that we are when we're on a bike as opposed to in a car. While cycling, I am very aware of my surroundings. I believe that it is the same way for LEOs. It is also a good visible presence.
My wife and I were in Chattanooga for a few nights several years back. While out on the patio of a downtown restaurant, I counted something like 5 cop cars with their lights going for no reason. I asked our waitress "Why the light show?" She told us that groups of "hooligans" would come into downtown and cause problems, so that was the cities response to the problem.... Squad cars with lights running. |
1. Just because you haven't seen them "addressing" crime doesn't mean they haven't been. (Personally, I have seen bike cops collar at least one suspect.) And mere police presence can deter criminal acts.
2. As the headline and article point out, their patrols are not limited to trails. 3. As the article also points out, police interaction with community members is important. Much easier to talk with a bike cop than a cop in a patrol car. |
They're basically beat cops with a somewhat extended capacity to patrol. Their role is primarily deterrence and community relations. You put these guys where you want a visible police presence. The cars are for rapid response. I mostly see bike cops in downtown areas or other business districts.
Not sure what you mean exactly by "addressing crime". Outside of pulling people over for speeding, most times I see any police officers who ride in cars, they're just driving around. I generally try not to be at an active crime scene. |
I would prefer to see bicycle cops running 'undercover' and going after aggressive drivers.
CA has started to do that with their motorcycle cops. They'll go lane splitting, looking like any other bike, and nab those ******* drivers that think it's their job to keep motorcycles 'in their lane'. :D |
Originally Posted by bakerjw
(Post 21043725)
Think about how much more aware of our surroundings that we are when we're on a bike as opposed to in a car.
Originally Posted by bakerjw
(Post 21043725)
out on the patio of a downtown restaurant, I counted something like 5 cop cars with their lights going for no reason. I asked our waitress "Why the light show?" She told us that groups of "hooligans" would come into downtown and cause problems, so that was the cities response to the problem.... Squad cars with lights running.
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21044073)
1. Just because you haven't seen them "addressing" crime doesn't mean they haven't been.
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21044073)
(Personally, I have seen bike cops collar at least one suspect.)
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21044073)
And mere police presence can deter criminal acts.
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21044073)
2. As the headline and article point out, their patrols are not limited to trails.
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21044073)
3. As the article also points out, police interaction with community members is important. Much easier to talk with a bike cop than a cop in a patrol car.
Originally Posted by livedarklions
(Post 21044494)
Not sure what you mean exactly by "addressing crime".
Originally Posted by Notso_fastLane
(Post 21044695)
I would prefer to see bicycle cops running 'undercover' and going after aggressive drivers.
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Originally Posted by Arthur P*****y
(Post 21045049)
I am, but cops are masters of oblivion.
Originally Posted by Arthur P*****y
(Post 21045049)
They like to flock together, especially if they can turn their lights on.
Oh, and welcome to the ignore club too. |
Originally Posted by bakerjw
(Post 21045497)
Sorry but not all are.
Originally Posted by bakerjw
(Post 21045497)
welcome to the ignore club too.
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Originally Posted by Arthur P*****y
(Post 21045568)
Why are you sorry?
You're the president? And of course, the real irony... here, folks on "ignore lists" still show in replies to others. |
Originally Posted by genec
(Post 21046897)
"ignore lists".
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Originally Posted by Arthur P*****y
(Post 21047632)
What's an 'ignore list'?
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Originally Posted by genec
(Post 21046897)
Funny. I love seeing folks announce "I am ignoring you" as if that has any effect on the ignoree, and the mere announcement is an indicator that they were not ignored.
And of course, the real irony... here, folks on "ignore lists" still show in replies to others. |
Originally Posted by genec
(Post 21046897)
Funny. I love seeing folks announce "I am ignoring you" as if that has any effect on the ignoree, and the mere announcement is an indicator that they were not ignored.
I've got a few trolls on my list who are obviously on a bunch of others--all I can see is that they post something occasionally, and no one responds to them at all. |
Originally Posted by livedarklions
(Post 21050181)
Actually, it means I'm ignoring that person from now on
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Originally Posted by Arthur P*****y
(Post 21050314)
That's what I wanted him to do. In the bad old days I had to tell annoying people to go away. Don't go away mad - just go away. Now they do it unprompted - yay!
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
(Post 21049632)
Another funny non-issue is the silly posts that make it easy for others to ignore with just one glance due to their ignorable content being wrapped in hey-look-at-me visual idiosyncrasies (large or colored fonts, scads of nested quote boxes, goofball smilies, and/or verbose signatures listing their pets or other nonsense)
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
(Post 21050181)
...
I've got a few trolls on my list who are obviously on a bunch of others--all I can see is that they post something occasionally, and no one responds to them at all. I know who's trying to taunt me too. |
Originally Posted by Daniel4
(Post 21050677)
Why make any kind of announcement? This is the internet. We've all been warned before. Don't feed the trolls with any kind of response.
I know who's trying to taunt me too. /ignore. Just kidding, I don't mind you disagreeing with me. |
'ABQ Bike Cops Lower Crime Rate City crime statistics show that some Albuquerque areas have seen improvements since the introduction of police bike patrols. According to KOAT, arrests went up 25 percent in the Southeast Area Command in the year since bike patrols were introduced, while commercial burglaries have dropped 32 percent and auto thefts have dropped 24 percent. It is unclear whether these statistics were directly impacted by the presence of bicycle officers. Officials say bike cops are better equipped to patrol and respond in urban areas thanks to their enhanced mobility. The city is reportedly in the process of hiring 10 more bike cops to patrol Central Avenue along the ART corridor.' |
Anyhoo, back on topic...:innocent:
Maybe the sheer presence, or the known presence, of the cops on the trails and parks is enough to deter any nefarious and illicit activities. Maybe. |
Originally Posted by mcours2006
(Post 21129146)
Anyhoo, back on topic...:innocent:
Maybe the sheer presence, or the known presence, of the cops on the trails and parks is enough to deter any nefarious and illicit activities. Maybe. |
Cops on bicycles provides them a first hand view of how some motorist treat cyclist. Even in cop uniform, many motorist are too clueless to notice the uniform before doing something stupid. Cops seeing the view we see, rather than just a squad car view is a very good thing for cycling.
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Originally Posted by CB HI
(Post 21137170)
Cops on bicycles provides them a first hand view of how some motorist treat cyclist. Even in cop uniform, many motorist are too clueless to notice the uniform before doing something stupid. Cops seeing the view we see, rather than just a squad car view is a very good thing for cycling.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 21044073)
3. As the article also points out, police interaction with community members is important. Much easier to talk with a bike cop than a cop in a patrol car.
I go places officers rarely go. Its more than just PR. I was inspired by the DC police & NPS police who I see ride all year including winter. |
We have some bike patrol officers. They say the bikes are great. They can quietly roll right up to crooks doing something wrong, because the crooks dont hear them coming!
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