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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 22199981)
This is essentially the Shimano method, which is: big, big +2 links
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 22200019)
Show your work.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 22200010)
This reminds me that I want to add a few more links with the next batch of chains. I think that I have an 11-28 laying around, and there are some days where I'd like the extra 3 teeth (12-25 is what I normally run and my current chains have me committed to it).
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 22200010)
This reminds me that I want to add a few more links with the next batch of chains. I think that I have an 11-28 laying around, and there are some days where I'd like the extra 3 teeth (12-25 is what I normally run and my current chains have me committed to it).
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 22200014)
You mentioned it in another thread, but remind me of what group you're running now?
As it is, with 12-speed I'll almost definitely just run a 46x11-34 for the R2. Gravel... maybe a 40T with the Rotor 11-36 or 11-39. Gravel I do use the small ring, but only on some climbs. Of course moving to a place with some verticality may just chuck all that out the window. |
My cassette is 12-25. And I like it.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
(Post 22200056)
My cassette is 12-25. And I like it.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 22200046)
R7000. I hate the feel of fewer teeth compared to more, and with my terrain here on pavement I'm almost always in the 50 or 52 and using most of the cassette...except for the smallest one or two because I don't go pacelining at 30mph. I also don't want to use the junior cassette because the 14 is too big for a small, and only going to 28 would make me go to the small ring once or twice more in my standard ride.
As it is, with 12-speed I'll almost definitely just run a 46x11-34 for the R2. Gravel... maybe a 40T with the Rotor 11-36 or 11-39. Gravel I do use the small ring, but only on some climbs. Of course moving to a place with some verticality may just chuck all that out the window. So, what's keeping you from doing 12-xx for now? Just don't like the available cassettes? I haven't looked in a while and don't even know what's out there for Shimano, though there was a recent thread with links to some interesting third party, one-piece 12-xx cassettes. They're DA money, though, and I don't know that I want it that bad. |
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 22200062)
That won’t be available (from Shimano) come 12-speed anyway.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
(Post 22200039)
Dew doesn't count as a precipitation activity on Strava.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
(Post 22199616)
rjones28 and anyone else: If I increase a crankset from 48/32 to 50/34, will a longer chain be required?
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 22199864)
My high school was the Demons, and people complained every year, hung up flyers and all that, but the remain the Demons to this day.
LOL at Patriot missile! Good thing they didn't go with the Tomahawk missile, they would've shut that down by now. :) |
Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
(Post 22199864)
My high school was the Demons, and people complained every year, hung up flyers and all that, but the remain the Demons to this day.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
(Post 22200065)
Yeah, a 12t doesn't feel so great and an 11t has a bit of a nails-on-the-chalkboard feel to me, too. I can only imagine a 10t on some of the 12-speed groups *shudder*
So, what's keeping you from doing 12-xx for now? Just don't like the available cassettes? I haven't looked in a while and don't even know what's out there for Shimano, though there was a recent thread with links to some interesting third party, one-piece 12-xx cassettes. They're DA money, though, and I don't know that I want it that bad. As for the Recon/ Edco cassettes, I've heard mixed reviews of their quality, and some of them appear to have bizzarro-bonkers ratios. And I've made peace with the cassettes I have no for my fitness and terrain, using the small ring solely for climbing the stupid hill I live on and gravel climbs. However, the 11t is a waste, and the 12t is meh. AG's 11, 12, and 13s are unused, but the 28t is, again, too small for her too. Campy used to make a 13-29. I could use that with a standard crank, or a TT crank. |
Originally Posted by Velo Vol
(Post 22200056)
My cassette is 12-25. And I like it.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 22200112)
The only 12-up I'm aware of from Shimano is the 12-25 Velo Vol uses, and 25 is too small; it'd force me to shift the front more often and kill the point of the exercise. Back in the 10sp days I ran the crap out of the 12-27, which was fantastic. With 11-sp all the wheels went to 11-28, which was... ok. The fact that every manufacturer (of groupsets) is using the extra cogs for very wide-range cassettes with gaps no smaller than before, and with far fewer options than before drives me up the wall. New Ultegra will be 11-30 an 11-34 only. DA will have those and an 11-28 available. That's it.
As for the Recon/ Edco cassettes, I've heard mixed reviews of their quality, and some of them appear to have bizzarro-bonkers ratios. And I've made peace with the cassettes I have no for my fitness and terrain, using the small ring solely for climbing the stupid hill I live on and gravel climbs. However, the 11t is a waste, and the 12t is meh. AG's 11, 12, and 13s are unused, but the 28t is, again, too small for her too. Campy used to make a 13-29. I could use that with a standard crank, or a TT crank. |
Originally Posted by phrantic09
(Post 22200154)
It's so interesting to me to hear about 11T being unused. I'm in 52/11 2-3 times a ride with our rollers here. Half of the time I'm not even aware until my computer beeps at me that I'm out of gears. I'm also in the 36/30 several times per ride as well.
And what cadence do you use in your 52x11? I understand (unlike some) not wanting to do 90rpm at low power at 30-whatever MPH, but I've never found much point in the low power, low cadence pedaling on downhills. I wish it were easier to ride with each other; it would be fascinating to see what I do on your roads, and vice versa. |
Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 22200161)
Well and this is why I said the moving may crimp my plans to toss all my FDs in the trash. ;)
And what cadence do you use in your 52x11? I understand (unlike some) not wanting to do 90rpm at low power at 30-whatever MPH, but I've never found much point in the low power, low cadence pedaling on downhills. I wish it were easier to ride with each other; it would be fascinating to see what I do on your roads, and vice versa. I have found I’m most efficient around 90- general hop in that gear at around 28-29. Pedaling down some of the longer gradual descents here you can get to 45-50. |
Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 22199589)
Are they a bunch of Goodfellas?
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
(Post 22200005)
Man I wish we could still get 12-up and 13-up cassettes.
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Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 22199935)
That was a very hot and humid ride. I pushed it a bit and felt some nausea which is my “tell” for overheating. I dropped it back a notch and sat in, which worked out much better than taking hard pulls.
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Originally Posted by phrantic09
(Post 22200166)
I have found I’m most efficient around 90- general hop in that gear at around 28-29. Pedaling down some of the longer gradual descents here you can get to 45-50.
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Interesting experience on today's ride. Recall I still run Ultegra 6700 on my bikes. Also recall that the exposed parts of the shifters are notorious for rusting, and there is a bit of rust on mine.
When I started the ride, my inner paddle (to shift to a smaller cog in back) would sometimes just move but not shift, and sometimes would "catch" and shift properly. Oh crap. The outer shifter would shift crisply to the bigger cogs nice and crisply. So I am pretty sure the problem is NOT a fraying cable or a cable problem at all, but something in the shifter mechanism that is not engaging properly. I am not enough of an expert on the shifter innards/mechanism to make a definite diagnosis. Luckily, as the ride progressed, the weak "catch" or inability to shift at all became less frequent, and within 15 minutes it was working fine. My suspicion is that whatever ratchet or other gizmo inside the shifter may have gotten stuck due to rust and lack of use (this is my first ride on the bike in 2 weeks), but I am torn whether to just leave it alone versus spray a bunch of WD40 and/or lube up into the mechanism to help clear out whatever the cause was. Suggestions??? |
Sometimes the non-cycling world attempts to appropriate cycling with hilarious results. To wit, a $28,900 Louis Vuitton single speed bike that is probably less capable than anything from State:
https://theradavist.com/2021/08/__tr...Bkuqtqbtl52A8U |
Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 22200191)
That's what I run. Either 12-25 or 12-28, depending on my needs. But this is 10 speed Shimano.
Both big cogs and tires. |
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