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Originally Posted by thumpism
(Post 20581657)
Well, it's here. Fished it out of the dumpster in the rain at the co-op's new location after letting it sit there for a couple of weeks. I figured if it was unreachably covered with more scrap or had been grabbed by now then I was spared having to bring it home and would only feel badly about some of those rod brake parts getting away. As it is, the brake pads will replace the (wrong!) Dia Compe pads on the rear of my complete-but-ratty Tourist and I'll hang the rest from the rafters as garage decor until someone who needs it comes along. It's a 24" frame with a slight dent in the top tube.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ea43110e9f.jpg |
Forks are a little tweaked but can be saved. Bars are better than mine. I have no immediate plans for my 22" or for this one, I just did not want either of them going to the dump and that looked like it would be a certainty so they're better off here even if I only look at them.
Years ago I had a rough, fairly complete 24" but had no extra space and didn't really mind letting it go. Gave it to a buddy who owned a shop with a quaint bent so a tall Tourist fit right in. |
Originally Posted by thumpism
(Post 20581854)
Forks are a little tweaked but can be saved. Bars are better than mine. I have no immediate plans for my 22" or for this one, I just did not want either of them going to the dump and that looked like it would be a certainty so they're better off here even if I only look at them.
Years ago I had a rough, fairly complete 24" but had no extra space and didn't really mind letting it go. Gave it to a buddy who owned a shop with a quaint bent so a tall Tourist fit right in. |
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Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20580376)
But I must say that pre TI Rudges, in fact all pre 1960 English roadsters are getting rare. They didn't used to be. Makes me wonder what happened to them all.
Anyways, to be more serious, the rarity probably revolves around two factors: scarcity and desirability. While pre-1960's Raleighs et al were not rare on this side of the pond back in the day, they weren't common, either. Adult biking wasn't really a thing from 1945 to 1960 in the US and probably Canada. It wasn't until the 60's where adult biking became a "thing" again, and the numbers of adult bikes increased here. It's not just British bikes: you can definitely find a fair share of 60's era Schwinn Varsities, Collegiates, and Continentals if you look, but you'd be hard pressed to casually find the 50's adult Schwinn frames. Add to that the desirability of these pre-1960 bikes, as they have been talked up as being better than what came after, so people seek out those bikes instead of the easier to find newer versions. And they're probably more likely to hold on to these bikes vs the newer ones. It's not just pre-1960 British roadsters. Look at 1980's touring bikes. They were common back in the day, but not in the numbers of sport-touring bikes. They were forgotten about for awhile, then people realized how nice these bikes are, talked them up, and the prices went up accordingly. On Portland's Craigslist it's rare to find one of these bikes for less than $400, regardless of condition. Of course, you can find a 1980's mountain bike that works just as well as an 80's tourer for the most part for far less. And the old MTBs use 26 inch wheels, so you can get wider tires too. But people aren't hyping up the 80's MTB to the same level of the 80's touring bike...yet. ;) |
Originally Posted by dweenk
(Post 20580204)
The bike does not have the "Red Hand of Ulster" chainwheel, so I declined to buy. The seller says he may have a lead to one, but we we will have to see. I am getting more picky it seems.
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Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20582560)
The big issue with these is finding parts. Completing this bike isn't practical. There's just not enough of them around and nobody ever seems to be parting one out. Too bad really, they are fun bikes and with the 22" you don't even have to be 6' tall to ride them. Knowing what I do now, I will always want one in the stable. I tend to binge ride different bikes and the big roadster has a feel of it's own that makes for a nice change.
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Originally Posted by adventurepdx
(Post 20583762)
Hmm...I'm sure the scarcity of this bikes has nothing to do with a web forum thread about three speeds that's gotten to about 726 pages in the course of eight years, a thread where people regularly praise the pre-1960 bikes as The Bee's Knees and disparage the post-1960 bikes as machines likely to disintegrate going down a hill. Nope, nothing to do with that! ;);)
Anyways, to be more serious, the rarity probably revolves around two factors: scarcity and desirability. While pre-1960's Raleighs et al were not rare on this side of the pond back in the day, they weren't common, either. Adult biking wasn't really a thing from 1945 to 1960 in the US and probably Canada. It wasn't until the 60's where adult biking became a "thing" again, and the numbers of adult bikes increased here. It's not just British bikes: you can definitely find a fair share of 60's era Schwinn Varsities, Collegiates, and Continentals if you look, but you'd be hard pressed to casually find the 50's adult Schwinn frames. Add to that the desirability of these pre-1960 bikes, as they have been talked up as being better than what came after, so people seek out those bikes instead of the easier to find newer versions. And they're probably more likely to hold on to these bikes vs the newer ones. It's not just pre-1960 British roadsters. Look at 1980's touring bikes. They were common back in the day, but not in the numbers of sport-touring bikes. They were forgotten about for awhile, then people realized how nice these bikes are, talked them up, and the prices went up accordingly. On Portland's Craigslist it's rare to find one of these bikes for less than $400, regardless of condition. Of course, you can find a 1980's mountain bike that works just as well as an 80's tourer for the most part for far less. And the old MTBs use 26 inch wheels, so you can get wider tires too. But people aren't hyping up the 80's MTB to the same level of the 80's touring bike...yet. ;) |
These aren't really over priced; the seller needs the money for new eyeglasses. Different brands and models, U-brakes, pricing; lots wrong about this ad but it looks like a very nice, and nicely appointed, 23" men's Sports. I also posted this in the Wacky thread.
https://richmond.craigslist.org/bik/...705935413.htmlbikes - $750 (Petersburg) https://images.craigslist.org/01010_...Zj_600x450.jpg bicycle type: cruiser brake type: u-brakes condition: excellent frame size: 26 handlebar type: cruiser suspension: none (rigid) wheel size: 26 in Selling as a pair: 2 vintage nice clean complete bicycles 1971 1 26 inch men's sports ( The Raleigh) made in England,3 spd, Brooks seat, luggage rack ,pump, fenders . Very clean . does need tires. Dry rot from setting in storage. Ladies Schwinn Suburban 3 spd also very clean and needs tires. Selling as a matching pair. |
Received a set of Sturmey Archer cable pulleys today.
They have some... patina but roll well. Going to give them a good clean and polish and probably sell the leftovers on eBay again. http://i.imgur.com/CfKf2XTh.jpg Does anyone know if these can be disassembled safely? |
Originally Posted by JaccoW
(Post 20585499)
Received a set of Sturmey Archer cable pulleys today.
They have some... patina but roll well. Going to give them a good clean and polish and probably sell the leftovers on eBay again. http://i.imgur.com/CfKf2XTh.jpg Does anyone know if these can be disassembled safely? |
25 bikes, $25 each
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Originally Posted by dweenk
(Post 20585579)
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3b0486b730.jpg
Easton, MD https://easternshore.craigslist.org/...706075572.html Those 3-speed Schwinns don't get a lot of love, but they're not bad bikes for what they are. If you can tolerate having an Ashtabula crank in the inventory. We had one for a while but I refurbed it (though it didn't need much) and gave it to our neighbor. |
Originally Posted by desconhecido
(Post 20585599)
The Philips twins look like a couple of nice bikes -- probably made during the TI era, my wag. A couple of Schwinns, look like Breeze. "They Call Me the Breeze." JJCale, one of the best tunes ever.
Those 3-speed Schwinns don't get a lot of love, but they're not bad bikes for what they are. If you can tolerate having an Ashtabula crank in the inventory. We had one for a while but I refurbed it (though it didn't need much) and gave it to our neighbor. |
Im thinking about getting new bars for my Raleigh, I feel as thought the current North Roads are a bit to narrow for me. I have some NITTO Albatross bars on my Specialized Streetstomper, I love the feel of those bars but feel those will be to wide for a Raleigh 3 speed. My question is are the NITTO North Roads the same size and width as the current North Roads that come on a Raleigh 3 speed?
Does anyone have any experience with these bars? Thanx for the help! NITTO B302AA NITTO B347AA NITTO B483AA |
Originally Posted by dweenk
(Post 20585551)
I examined 2 spare pulleys and the screws seem to be captive screws. I suppose you could force them out, but then you would need to devise a way to keep the screw from backing out upon reassembly. Locktite perhaps?
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Originally Posted by jamesj
(Post 20586231)
Im thinking about getting new bars for my Raleigh, I feel as thought the current North Roads are a bit to narrow for me. I have some NITTO Albatross bars on my Specialized Streetstomper, I love the feel of those bars but feel those will be to wide for a Raleigh 3 speed. My question is are the NITTO North Roads the same size and width as the current North Roads that come on a Raleigh 3 speed?
Does anyone have any experience with these bars? Thanx for the help! NITTO B302AA NITTO B347AA NITTO B483AA |
Originally Posted by jamesj
(Post 20586231)
Im thinking about getting new bars for my Raleigh, I feel as thought the current North Roads are a bit to narrow for me. I have some NITTO Albatross bars on my Specialized Streetstomper, I love the feel of those bars but feel those will be to wide for a Raleigh 3 speed. My question is are the NITTO North Roads the same size and width as the current North Roads that come on a Raleigh 3 speed?
Does anyone have any experience with these bars? Thanx for the help! NITTO B302AA NITTO B347AA NITTO B483AA They are called "Action Porteur": Action Porteurs from Harris Cyclery https://i.imgur.com/RJPhIQF.png Mounted right-side-up. - OR - https://i.imgur.com/NTZwSy3.png Up-side-down And they look great on a Scorcher! https://i.imgur.com/kgAzWY8.png My latest project: Pashley single-speed path racer - will eventually get a 3- or 5-speed drum-brake SA rear hub. Maybe this winter? . |
Originally Posted by jamesj
(Post 20586231)
Im thinking about getting new bars for my Raleigh, I feel as thought the current North Roads are a bit to narrow for me. I have some NITTO Albatross bars on my Specialized Streetstomper, I love the feel of those bars but feel those will be to wide for a Raleigh 3 speed. My question is are the NITTO North Roads the same size and width as the current North Roads that come on a Raleigh 3 speed?
Does anyone have any experience with these bars? Thanx for the help! NITTO B302AA NITTO B347AA NITTO B483AA https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Wei...item361ba88ac0 You'll also have to change out the stem as mentioned- the Nitto 'Dirt Drop' stem works well as it allows the headlight to stay in place if you have one. |
Originally Posted by DQRider
(Post 20586518)
Nittos are nice, but quite pricey. I've found an alternative that I use on all my North Roads type builds, and they are half the cost of Nittos.
They are called "Action Porteur": Action Porteurs from Harris Cyclery https://i.imgur.com/RJPhIQF.png Mounted right-side-up. - OR - https://i.imgur.com/NTZwSy3.png Up-side-down And they look great on a Scorcher! https://i.imgur.com/kgAzWY8.png My latest project: Pashley single-speed path racer - will eventually get a 3- or 5-speed drum-brake SA rear hub. Maybe this winter? . |
Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20587737)
Nice! I didn't know about the Pashley. You've got some seriously beautiful bikes. How about a group photo sometime?
I didn't feature the Pashley here yet because it is still a single speed. But I've been shamelessly showing it off elsewhere. :o And the Raysport is undergoing a 650b conversion at the moment. Busy, busy, busy.... . |
Any suggestions for good tire replacements?
my old dunlap's are about to explode haha |
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Took the sports out to watch the swifts go in the chimney at chapman elemantary. |
That is one great looking Sports. Those Dunlops are exactly the type that came on the bike originally. I wonder if they are original. I'm happy with Kenda black walls. I picked them at first because they lacked things like colored logos and reflective strips and so far, I've had no problems with them. Kenda makes this size in gum wall that is perfect for early 60s Sports that came with them originally. Other tires like Continental City Rides are supposed to be more puncture resistant and they may well be, hard to say.
Here's the Harris 590 page. 26 x 1 3/8 inch (590 mm) Bicycle Tires from Harris Cyclery |
Concerning Dynohubs...Turns out that I'm much more pleased with the Dynohub with LED lights than I thought I'd be. Sometimes I start my day with an early ride while it's still dark. I don't ride on the paved roads in the daytime. At 4 AM I'm all alone out there. I use a headband light. With fresh AAA batteries it lights up the road well enough for the speeds I ride and the LED lights reflect animal eyes far beyond the field of visible light, but it's a tight beam and doesn't light up the road directly in front of me very well. The Dyno light fills this spot perfectly. It shines a nice wide beam up close. The two lights together work so well that I don't like my other bikes for night riding now. I'm totally sold on Dynohubs and I never thought I'd be. One more misconception out the window.
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So I've found what this seller claims to be a 1950s model of a dunlet. I cant tell what parts of the paint are dull from age or rust.
the hub is a brand new one but most else looks original. seller asking $150 but it's been on for awhile so I could try and get 100 maybe. questions for the experts. what size does this looks to be? I'm hoping 24" what condition would you say it's in? Is it worth $100? edit: forgot the pictures haha https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ac6518781d.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c48d771151.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e385917a38.jpg |
@BigChief
thanks for the suggestion! those look like a perfect replacement. I do believe they are the originals. I got the bike from a store owner who used it as a window dressing after buying from a widow. Her husband brought it over from england and stored it in a barn. |
@BigChief, I haven't used a Sturmey-Archer Dynohub, but I've been using dynamo hubs since 2013, and I love them. I know the drag is measurable, but it is imperceptible to me. When I hit 20 mph, I feel vibration, but I don't perceive it to be slowing me down.
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Originally Posted by Buellster
(Post 20590471)
So I've found what this seller claims to be a 1950s model of a dunlet. I cant tell what parts of the paint are dull from age or rust.
the hub is a brand new one but most else looks original. seller asking $150 but it's been on for awhile so I could try and get 100 maybe. questions for the experts. what size does this looks to be? I'm hoping 24" what condition would you say it's in? Is it worth $100? edit: f |
Originally Posted by DQRider
(Post 20586518)
Nittos are nice, but quite pricey. I've found an alternative that I use on all my North Roads type builds, and they are half the cost of Nittos.
They are called "Action Porteur": Action Porteurs from Harris Cyclery . |
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