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photogravity 12-05-11 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by yellowbarber (Post 13561388)
anybody in for a group buy since they're coming all the way from Thailand?

I just missed out on this auction a couple days ago. <sigh> (http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-bicy...item45fed44c0e) Had I won, I'd have extras to share!

Velognome 12-05-11 11:39 AM

[QUOTE][anybody in for a group buy since they're coming all the way from Thailand?/QUOTE]

Shipping is $5, by the time you split up, repack and mail out your, only going to save a maybe $2-3 each which would be about the same as if an individual like the said ^ noglider above^ were to order 2 and have the shipping combined, or am i missing something?

Nice relflectors though, I mounted one an a Wald Cresent Lightweight (?!?) fenderand it looks just perfect!

BigPolishJimmy 12-05-11 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by cb400bill (Post 13557237)
... And, don't think that thieves don't steal ugly bikes. Trust me, they do.

Oh, well yes of course they do, but just for the thrill of it. My junker will still get locked inside overnight, but the dents in the frame will make it less likely to draw attention like the big shiny chrome fenders on my Schwinn.

let me know if you'd be interested in going in on a cotter pin order to save shipping. i know it's not very much, but since I'm in town every weekday I could easily pick them up or drop them off.

yellowbarber 12-05-11 02:32 PM

That occurred to me right after I made the post. I'll do the math again. I think they add jsut 1 per item for combined shipping.

"noglider" is pretty close to me over in NJ, I have friends and family out that way - it wouldn't be a big mess to meet up instead of shipping


[QUOTE=Velognome;13565705]

[anybody in for a group buy since they're coming all the way from Thailand?/QUOTE]

Shipping is $5, by the time you split up, repack and mail out your, only going to save a maybe $2-3 each which would be about the same as if an individual like the said ^ noglider above^ were to order 2 and have the shipping combined, or am i missing something?

Nice relflectors though, I mounted one an a Wald Cresent Lightweight (?!?) fenderand it looks just perfect!

rhm 12-06-11 09:01 AM

This thread can always use another photo, right?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6...11843ca5_b.jpg

photogravity 12-06-11 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 13569198)
This thread can always use another photo, right?

Indeed... Is that your Lenton Sports all fixed up? ;)

rhm 12-06-11 10:20 AM

No, that's my Lambert 'clubman' build. Originally a fifteen speed, but I upgraded it to three. Here's another photo:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6...d6f49e26_b.jpg

Anyway, the Lenton Sports would be off-topic. It's a four speed!

Bikes and Jeeps 12-06-11 07:16 PM

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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=229628I didn't intend to buy this, but it was in the garage with a road bike i wanted.
After letting it sit for a few weeks, i took it out for a spin, and much to my surprise i loved it.:)
I ended up trading it and another three speed to a forum member for a hybrid.
Too many bikes and not enough room.:cry:

organbuilder 12-06-11 07:46 PM

Yes it is an Alvit changer on the '65 chrome Raleigh and it always works fine. My first 3 speed was a Robin Hood with the curved top tube. I had it converted to 9 Speed also, but it was an earlier deraileur with a coiled spring affair. It didn't work as well. That bike was, alas, stolen out of our chicken coop.

photogravity 12-06-11 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 13569474)
No, that's my Lambert 'clubman' build. Originally a fifteen speed, but I upgraded it to three. Here's another photo:

Anyway, the Lenton Sports would be off-topic. It's a four speed!

You have far too many really nice English bikes... <sigh> I'll get there one of these days, I suppose!

BTW, what's with the concern of going OT? This thread meanders all over the place.

rhm 12-07-11 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by photogravity (Post 13569317)
Indeed... Is that your Lenton Sports all fixed up? ;)

Here is the photo to which you allude:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6098/6...97d332f5_b.jpg

I haven't really ridden it yet... just a couple miles. Cool period correct mudguards that might be too fragile to ride this time of year (they get brittle in the cold) sso perhaps I should change to metal. Haven't actually attached the taillight, either.

yellowbarber 12-09-11 10:09 PM

allright now....that is a sweet ride

Originally Posted by rhm (Post 13573391)
Here is the photo to which you allude:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6098/6...97d332f5_b.jpg

I haven't really ridden it yet... just a couple miles. Cool period correct mudguards that might be too fragile to ride this time of year (they get brittle in the cold) sso perhaps I should change to metal. Haven't actually attached the taillight, either.


auchencrow 12-09-11 11:31 PM

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6098/6...97d332f5_b.jpg

That is beautiful, RHM Very much so.

oldroads 12-10-11 06:48 AM

1969 Raleigh Sports with the Benelux Cyclo derailleur conversion and a leather Brook B-15 saddle.

http://oldroadsforums.com/img/dec8DSCN1532.jpg

Sixty Fiver 12-10-11 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 13573391)
Here is the photo to which you allude:
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6098/6...97d332f5_b.jpg

I haven't really ridden it yet... just a couple miles. Cool period correct mudguards that might be too fragile to ride this time of year (they get brittle in the cold) sso perhaps I should change to metal. Haven't actually attached the taillight, either.

We can forgive you for needing that extra gear.

In other news... my friend is clearing out his garage and I think I am getting a Moulton F frame (complete) and he has lots of extra bits.

rhm 12-10-11 07:30 PM

Moulton F-frames are cool. They are the height of bicycle design; after that, things stopped getting better.

I need an extra rear rack, if he has one!

In fact, Sixtyfiver, perhaps you're the man who could make me one? I have the piece of steel that mounts into the frame; the rest is gone. Interested? If so, please contact me privately.

Sixty Fiver 12-10-11 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by rhm (Post 13586682)
Moulton F-frames are cool. They are the height of bicycle design; after that, things stopped getting better.

I need an extra rear rack, if he has one!

In fact, Sixtyfiver, perhaps you're the man who could make me one? I have the piece of steel that mounts into the frame; the rest is gone. Interested? If so, please contact me privately.

pm sent... may very well be a spare rack is his trove of parts too.

55 Traveler 12-11-11 08:10 AM

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Hi All, new poster here.

I hope a Schwinn 3 speed is allowed. It seems much in the spirit. This was my Dad's 75 Suburban. I could never get the 5 speed to drop down into low for hills, so I excised a couple of gears from it.

I found a 36 hole AW and laced them up with the usual CR18 rims. B66 cost more than the bike did new, but it is a lifetime investment!

The 22" frame is a little small but works well enough with a long seat post.

Regards,
David

markk900 12-11-11 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by oldroads (Post 13584775)
1969 Raleigh Sports with the Benelux Cyclo derailleur conversion and a leather Brook B-15 saddle.

http://oldroadsforums.com/img/dec8DSCN1532.jpg

Love the composition of this picture.....what kind of bars are those?

Also, I have been noting the vast differences in seat angle across the pictures in this thread - tilted forward like here, tilted back like 55 Traveller's Schwinn, and varying degrees of level.....is it truly "whatever is comfortable"?

Mark

55 Traveler 12-11-11 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 13587951)
Also, I have been noting the vast differences in seat angle across the pictures in this thread - tilted forward like here, tilted back like 55 Traveller's Schwinn, and varying degrees of level.....is it truly "whatever is comfortable"?

Mark

The next "click" down on that seat is dead flat but it felt like I was sliding downhill. I think it is "whats comfortable", but I usually rely on whether it feels "neutral", neither sliding forward nor backwards. I think the best angle can vary with other factors. for example, I've notice a lot of fixies with very low handlebars and the seats tend to be a little downward at the front. This probably makes sense with a really low torso angle.

Regards,
David

Sixty Fiver 12-11-11 07:33 PM

Saddle position / tilt is a highly personal choice and think most seek a neutral position... find that with a B17 or other saddles designed for upright riding having the nose up a degree works best to give me that while my racier saddles get a level set up.

markk900 12-11-11 10:53 PM

65-er - I agree - I find without the slight tilt backward the pressure points are too sharp when sitting more upright, and like 55-traveler I feel like I'm sliding downhill. Its just that with all the photos in this thread the variety of setups is interesting!

Mark

Super.bee 12-12-11 01:41 PM

Has anyone tried a s3x hub in an old Sports frame? Looks like there's a 5mm difference in OLD, the hub being wider than the dropouts.

This is interesting to me both as a slippery weather bike and also, perhaps, with a freewheel screwed on and a derailer.. kind of a modern-day cyclo kit...

Was 3 spd fixed ever an option on a bike like the Sports or was it really found only on road/racing frames?

Sixty Fiver 12-12-11 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by markk900 (Post 13590365)
65-er - I agree - I find without the slight tilt backward the pressure points are too sharp when sitting more upright, and like 55-traveler I feel like I'm sliding downhill. Its just that with all the photos in this thread the variety of setups is interesting!

Mark

If you check out "My Bicycles" at my blog you'd see that, of the bikes I have posted that there is some variances between saddle angles on bicycles that all share some pretty common measurements when it comes to fit.

If the bike tends to lean toward more aggressive riding the saddle will be level or even tilted down a notch and for bikes that are for longer and more leisurely rides the noses are ticked up just a little.

I did change the saddle angle on my '51 CCM shortly after I took this picture as I was in the process of dialing this in as erectile dysfunction in a saddle can cause other types of erectile dysfunction.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...11ccmpath1.JPG

Sixty Fiver 12-12-11 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by Super.bee (Post 13592423)
Has anyone tried a s3x hub in an old Sports frame? Looks like there's a 5mm difference in OLD, the hub being wider than the dropouts.

This is interesting to me both as a slippery weather bike and also, perhaps, with a freewheel screwed on and a derailer.. kind of a modern-day cyclo kit...

Was 3 spd fixed ever an option on a bike like the Sports or was it really found only on road/racing frames?

The ASC is in itself a very rare hub and as far as I know was never offered on the Raleigh Sports which was typically fitted with the AW save for that brief period when they tried replacing this with the SW in '57 which was a failure... the AW returned in '58.

Have test ridden the S3X and liked it a good deal... would probably be a fine upgrade or refit to a Sports and would appeal to those who abhor coasting.

BigPolishJimmy 12-12-11 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by 55 Traveler (Post 13587792)
Hi All, new poster here.

I hope a Schwinn 3 speed is allowed. It seems much in the spirit. This was my Dad's 75 Suburban. I could never get the 5 speed to drop down into low for hills, so I excised a couple of gears from it.

I found a 36 hole AW and laced them up with the usual CR18 rims. B66 cost more than the bike did new, but it is a lifetime investment!

The 22" frame is a little small but works well enough with a long seat post.

Regards,
David

I don't know if it's allowed, but it's here and I enjoyed seeing it even if slightly off topic.

Fenway 12-12-11 05:03 PM

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/1...ght-solutions/
http://www.compasscycle.com/Lighting.html

Drop in LED replacement bulbs with built in stand-lights for vintage tail lights are now available in the US! =)

For those of you unaware of the drop in LED headlight bulbs (without standlight) see http://www.home.earthlink.net/~stein...erchandise.htm

Super.bee 12-12-11 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 13592557)
The ASC is in itself a very rare hub and as far as I know was never offered on the Raleigh Sports which was typically fitted with the AW save for that brief period when they tried replacing this with the SW in '57 which was a failure... the AW returned in '58.

Interesting history, thank you. I wonder if it is more forgivable - or less - to create such a machine knowing that it's not a redux...


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 13592557)
Have test ridden the S3X and liked it a good deal... would probably be a fine upgrade or refit to a Sports and would appeal to those who abhor coasting.

Thank you again, glad to hear it, I am looking forward to trying it but had not found the right bike / opportunity. So how 'tragic' would it be to cold-set an old 3-speed 5mm? The machine in question is a 60s Royal. I have heard of broken axles at the clutch key slot if I try to spring the dropouts open (misaligned ends), but don't know if that's an overstated risk. Anyone?

EDIT: Sorry, I realize I originally / inaccurately said 'Sports'. I guess I was thinking in terms of 'type'.

noglider 12-12-11 05:20 PM

It's fine to do that, Super.bee. Just do it.

Sixty Fiver 12-12-11 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Fenway (Post 13593268)
http://janheine.wordpress.com/2011/1...ght-solutions/
http://www.compasscycle.com/Lighting.html

Drop in LED replacement bulbs with built in stand-lights for vintage lights are now available in the US! =)

I am waiting for someone to offer a replacement for the front lights (with some decent output) although that rear replacement is pretty sweet.


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