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CABELLOJO 05-26-21 12:19 PM

1998 cannondale saeco cad 3
 
Hello,

I purchased this and will be starting a build on it pretty soon.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5b13d29011.jpg
How I bought it.

CABELLOJO 05-26-21 12:27 PM

Looking to build as close as possible to the original.

CABELLOJO 05-26-21 12:30 PM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d178377441.jpg
Let go tearing it down!
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ea6be2aa72.jpg
Dura-Ace brakes & Slice Coda carbon forks.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...921d49c5ba.jpg
Dura -Ace rear derailleur.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8e8b74bf6e.jpg
Ultegra front derailleur.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...aad7b72d3b.jpg
Immix Cannondale carbon & Titanium cage.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d8dabbc432.jpg
Saeco!

CABELLOJO 05-26-21 12:32 PM

Will need help in selecting a good crankset. I already have some Ultegra wheels I will use.

masi61 05-26-21 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by CABELLOJO (Post 22076895)
Looking to build as close as possible to the original.

So I assume you are sticking with Dura Ace 7700 2x9 shifting?

Also, have you looked up the vintage Cannondale catalogs from the CAAD3 era? I want say that the SAECO replica frameset was sold as a frameset not a complete bike, I'm not sure. Is there a particular wheel set that you desire to use?

I have a size 58 CAAD3 R1000 which I believe is the same frame, different paint job. It is a very stiff ride. Not the lightest but certainly potentially very fast.

Keep us posted on the progress of your build and please document with plenty of photos.

CABELLOJO 05-26-21 12:43 PM

Only thing needed would be the Dura-Ace crankset correct?

What would be a good upgrade crankset?

masi61 05-26-21 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by CABELLOJO (Post 22076905)
Will need help in selecting a good crankset. I already have some Ultegra wheels I will use.

Dura Ace 7700 with the matching 7700 Octalink BB would make the most sense since you want to keep it original. Or you could spec a Cannondale Crank. Not sure if the CAAD3 era frames had the Hollowgram cranks yet though. Your frame has an English threaded bottom bracket, BB30 wasn't out yet. If you had a Hollowgram crank in black or silver I think you could spec a threaded 30mm bottom bracket as a custom option. The chunky arms of the Hollowgram cranks to my eye are very iconic and beefy looking. But really the 7700 cranks are so lovely. Used ones are not that expensive since they usually have extensive scratches to the clear anodizing. Fortunately, thanks the the flowing lines, they can be wet sanded with finer and finer grits of autobody wet sand paper then polished with mag wheel polish to a mirror shine (at least of the outside, polishing the inside facets might be a lot more labor intensive).

CABELLOJO 05-26-21 12:55 PM

What about, Shimano Dura-Ace Crankset FC-7402?

the sci guy 05-26-21 12:59 PM

Hello fellow Houstonian! I saw that frame as well - but it's too large for me. They were also selling a matching 48cm one, but that's too small for me LOL. Need that 50/52 sweet spot! Looking forward to how you finish this sucker off!

masi61 05-26-21 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by CABELLOJO (Post 22076952)
What about, Shimano Dura-Ace Crankset FC-7402?

7402 Dura Ace crank from the 8 speed era would work fine. It uses a 110mm square taper BB I believe. The 7410 crank is the lower profile version that takes a 102mm bottom bracket square taper axlle bb. The 7410's are reallly gorgeous and stiff too.

CABELLOJO 05-26-21 01:05 PM

So, 7400 are for the 8's and 7700 for the 9 speeds?

CABELLOJO 05-26-21 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by the sci guy (Post 22076959)
Hello fellow Houstonian! I saw that frame as well - but it's too large for me. They were also selling a matching 48cm one, but that's too small for me LOL. Need that 50/52 sweet spot! Looking forward to how you finish this sucker off!

Yessir, I'm in the same boat, size-wise. This one turns out is a 56cm, not the 58cm they advertised. Will build for my nephew most likely.

masi61 05-26-21 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by CABELLOJO (Post 22076971)
So, 7400 are for the 8's and 7700 for the 9 speeds?

The 7400 cranks were for 6 and 7 speed Dura Ace groups, the 7402 for 8 speed. The 7410 is for 8 speed and the 7700 is for 9 speed. But really any of them would work fine with 9 speed as far as I know. The 10 speed 7800 cranks will also work fine with 9 speed.

genejockey 05-26-21 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by CABELLOJO (Post 22076928)
Only thing needed would be the Dura-Ace crankset correct?

What would be a good upgrade crankset?

From Dura Ace? Dura Ace IS the upgrade crankset!

7700 Dura Ac would be 'period correct'. Cannondale CODA, as seen in the 1998 catalog would be authentic, but a quick trip to Ebay suggests that would be difficult to source, plus it may need its own bottom bracket. 7410 or 7402 Dura Ace are both a bit anachronistic. Oh, and the 7410 Dura Ace crank uses a 103mm JIS taper spindle, not 102.

genejockey 05-26-21 02:12 PM

CORRECTION: It looks like the original was sold with the 7700 crankset. Also, a Thomson Elite seatpost. And Spinergy wheels.

clubman 05-26-21 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by CABELLOJO (Post 22076895)
Looking to build as close as possible to the original.

Well, you'd better start training. Apparently Mario's still in good form.
Love him or hate him, his sprints were a thing of beauty.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...82e2c47cdf.jpg

James1964 05-26-21 02:49 PM

Dura Ace 7700 components work great and are long lasting. I still use it on a rain bike and sometimes wonder why I ever "up-graded" to 11 sprockets.

CABELLOJO 05-27-21 09:09 AM

Going for period-correct and good looking. I might do a carbon fiber crankset and seat post.

CABELLOJO 05-27-21 09:20 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bd1817c039.jpg
Some light oxidation on bb.

CABELLOJO 05-27-21 09:20 AM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3ad54802ab.jpg
Torn down.

sdn40 05-27-21 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by CABELLOJO (Post 22077972)
Some light oxidation on bb.

I would scribe a line on each side of the oxidation and remove that paint and patch as necessary to prevent further creep. A bit of a bummer but could be worse. Probably won't even notice the repair

genejockey 05-27-21 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by CABELLOJO (Post 22077955)
Going for period-correct and good looking. I might do a carbon fiber crankset and seat post.

Not sure there were many carbon fiber cranksets in 1998. Seatpost is a good idea, given the stiffness of Cannondale frames of that era. Running 25mm tires at 90psi helps too - WAY better than 23s a 120psi!

CABELLOJO 05-27-21 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22078142)
Not sure there were many carbon fiber cranksets in 1998. Seatpost is a good idea, given the stiffness of Cannondale frames of that era. Running 25mm tires at 90psi helps too - WAY better than 23s a 120psi!

That's where the good-looking comes in.

Carbon fork, seatpost, & cranks maybe?

CABELLOJO 05-28-21 06:35 AM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d770637318.jpg
Wrap was nice but just does not match. Nice of the previous owner to leave the glue strip attached.

CABELLOJO 05-28-21 06:36 AM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f97939286e.jpg
Cleaned & polished water bottle cage. Nascar logos, "are the best!"


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