I live in the Surrey Hills so have been fortunate or unfortunate to have ridden all of these, the top 10 and the ones that didn't make the list! Some great climbs and views! https://www.broleur.com/top-10-tough...rrey-pyrenees/
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Originally Posted by CheGiantForLife
(Post 22604679)
I think cyclists are the best conditioned athletes on the planet.
Today, I rode up a 10% grade for 3 minutes and was maxed out. Had to switch back a few times. Fully winded and legs burning. It was like .2 or .3 miles at the most. I can not fathom how people do this for several miles !! What do they do for Tour de France? What kind of distances grades durations do you tackle? Mine is 34-32. |
Depends what bike I'm riding. On my road bike the steepest I generally tackle is probably 10%. On the mountain bike 22% is not uncommon. The steepest I climb I can tackle and be pretty certain I won't have to walk is 18%. The thing is, though, the mountain bike has 32 front 51 rear gear. The road bike has 36 front 28 rear.
I live in the Surrey Hills so anywhere I cycle I'm pretty much guaranteed a reasonable bit of climbing somewhere. One of my favourite rides takes me over Box Hill; it's mostly at around 5% with brief bursts up to 8% but it's a good long run of about 15 minutes for me. There are plenty of steeper rides around here but Box Hill gives a good workout and I know that however tired I am I won't have to walk any of it. In fact, now that I'm riding the area regularly, I have to be pretty knackered to even need my lowest gear. |
i live at the corner of a street with a +/- 20% grade. most directions i go, i’ll hit grades in the 15-20 range within a few blocks, but there are a handful of useful routes that keep it to 8% max.
when i head out to ride for fun, a few times a week, i’ll typically hit one or two or three long-ish sustained climbs, around 6 percent average for up to a couple miles, steepest bits in the 12% range, up to 2000’ feet bottom to top. |
I am in flatland south-coastal Delaware and the only "hill" within many miles is the Indian River Bridge. It has about a 4% grade and the span is about 1/2 mile long, 1/4 each side. I would have to ride back and forth on the bridge approximately 75 times to get to 1 mile of elevation gain. That is certainly doable, though boring, even with the terrific views of the Atlantic, Indian River and bay, and the surrounding landscape. It has been a few years since I have ridden anywhere with climbing involved.
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I'm a complete wimp, with dodgy knees so I have half an excuse.
Also my lowest gear is 42/28. But I did just find a mapping site that shows road gradient: https://gb.mapometer.com/cycling My training route hits a massive 4.4%. |
10-15% range but typically 10-12% everyday. Usually 48x34 but sometimes I mount a different cassette with a 39 cog.
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Most of my climbing is done on the southern end of the Blue Ridge Parkway and, like most of the Parkway, the climbs are 6.6 % or less. This, for me, is just about right. I use 34/28 on my Domane (I have a 32 if I need to use it) and can use one of my single speed bikes geared
quite low (42/23) but keep the distances shorter. There are a few spots along that 486 mile road that can exceed that grade, usually short sections jumping up into pull offs and such. |
I live in a flat part of a very flat state. Hills are few. Occasional overpasses are probably the steepest things I encounter.
I used to live in Peoria IL and most bike rides meant going up or down in/out of the river valley. I had a few particular roads I used to minimize steepness and/or vehicle traffic. |
Originally Posted by bykemike
(Post 22605131)
Most of my climbing is done on the southern end of the Blue Ridge Parkway and, like most of the Parkway, the climbs are 6.6 % or less. This, for me, is just about right. I use 34/28 on my Domane (I have a 32 if I need to use it) and can use one of my single speed bikes geared
quite low (42/23) but keep the distances shorter. There are a few spots along that 486 mile road that can exceed that grade, usually short sections jumping up into pull offs and such. Beautiful riding! |
It's the super steep >20% bits within a climb which are bloody murder, especially on road bike gearing (even modern 11-30 or 11-32 cassettes).
This one is nearby and it's about what I'd voluntarily do again to myself on road bike gearing; it's not the 10.3% average for 2.17km what is the problem but two stretches of >25% where it feels too steep/unstable to get out of the saddle and grinding it in the saddle is just horrible. https://www.strava.com/segments/16532332 Conversely, this one is pretty pleasant, despite being 3.3km long at 9.5% average - the steepest parts are maybe 15% which is far less daunting - just get out of the saddle and go: https://www.strava.com/segments/10824496 However, mostly my favourite training climbs are a constant 6%-ish. Oh, and if you're ever in Croatia, I highly recommend doing this one: https://www.strava.com/segments/9475334 It’s a decent climb (1750 elevation gain), but it's mostly a constant 6-ish% with a slightly steeper bit only at the very end and a flatter bit around the middle. The view is stellar when it's a clear day. I currently run a 50-34 with a 11-30 which I find to be a happy compromise on 11 speed for the local hills, when I convert to 12 speed it's probably going to be a semicompact and a 11-32. |
Originally Posted by Aardwolf
(Post 22605074)
I'm a complete wimp, with dodgy knees so I have half an excuse.
Also my lowest gear is 42/28.. Now I have a 34-29 low gear and sometimes want lower. I'm also 20 pounds lighter and old age is catching up. Every ride here involves climbing. |
Originally Posted by big john
(Post 22605234)
Around 1987 I had a 42-28 low gear which I used on various bikes for some time. Standard double cranks came with 52/42 rings but I could take the 7 speed cassettes apart and put a 28 in there. I did club rides in the mountains and climbed everything with those gears and I was over 220# then. I still don't know how I did it.
Now I have a 34-29 low gear and sometimes want lower. I'm also 20 pounds lighter and old age is catching up. Every ride here involves climbing. |
Originally Posted by seypat
(Post 22605264)
All of my bikes still have 52-42/40 cranksets....................with a 28 or 30T granny attached. I have to shift to a lower gear to get over a speed bump. :D
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When I got my bike about a year back it had the original 1982 gearing: 52/42 on front and 14-19 on the back.
I bought exactly the same model new in 1983 and rode it round London for 10 years, including the 'hills'. Now I'm a bit older and know a bit more I've got a 13-28 7 speed freewheel on the back. Sunrace also do a 13-34 but it's not chrome plated. |
Originally Posted by big john
(Post 22605234)
Around 1987 I had a 42-28 low gear which I used on various bikes for some time. Standard double cranks came with 52/42 rings but I could take the 7 speed cassettes apart and put a 28 in there. I did club rides in the mountains and climbed everything with those gears and I was over 220# then. I still don't know how I did it.
Now I have a 34-29 low gear and sometimes want lower. I'm also 20 pounds lighter and old age is catching up. Every ride here involves climbing. I've been working to get back in shape since the beginning of last month, and my favorite training ride is Mt. Hamilton, with extended sections of 5-7%. 20+ years ago, I would do most of that ride on a 19 rear cog, dropping down to a 21 cog in the steeper spots. Recently, I'm spending most of the time in the 21 cog, dropping down to 24 when I feel the need. But here's the fun part: I'm not substantially slower, I'm just spinning a higher cadence. And my legs feel less spent at the end of the ride. Seems smarter to me. |
Originally Posted by CheGiantForLife;[url=tel:22604925
22604925[/url]]5 miles at 9% is insane!
What is 2ft gear? |
Our town has the edge of glaciation just to the north and a major river to the west and south with a bit over 200 feet of elevation difference. So there are flat places and also lots of hills where the routes tumble down towards the streams that connect to the river.
Still it’s hard to find a hill with much over 150 feet of elevation. So our steep climbs tend to be short. If you can do 300 watts for three minutes (and recover) you really have not much to worry about, even on a single speed, which is what I’ve ridden most of the last two years. These days I have rear gear clusters on both bikes, but I still often do single gear 42/16 only rides just to make sure I have the strength to manage all the hills. But using the 42/18 on hills is both easier and usually faster. I’ve lost the patience to use a gear lower than that, it seems. Otto |
Originally Posted by jgwilliams
(Post 22605049)
Depends what bike I'm riding. On my road bike the steepest I generally tackle is probably 10%. On the mountain bike 22% is not uncommon. The steepest I climb I can tackle and be pretty certain I won't have to walk is 18%. The thing is, though, the mountain bike has 32 front 51 rear gear. The road bike has 36 front 28 rear.
I live in the Surrey Hills so anywhere I cycle I'm pretty much guaranteed a reasonable bit of climbing somewhere. One of my favourite rides takes me over Box Hill; it's mostly at around 5% with brief bursts up to 8% but it's a good long run of about 15 minutes for me. There are plenty of steeper rides around here but Box Hill gives a good workout and I know that however tired I am I won't have to walk any of it. In fact, now that I'm riding the area regularly, I have to be pretty knackered to even need my lowest gear. |
Originally Posted by big john
(Post 22605234)
Around 1987 I had a 42-28 low gear which I used on various bikes for some time. Standard double cranks came with 52/42 rings but I could take the 7 speed cassettes apart and put a 28 in there. I did club rides in the mountains and climbed everything with those gears and I was over 220# then. I still don't know how I did it.
Now I have a 34-29 low gear and sometimes want lower. I'm also 20 pounds lighter and old age is catching up. Every ride here involves climbing. I’m still riding a 28t. However, its position in the drivetrain has changed. Some days I think about the gearing I used to ride on the same climbs and it baffles me how much I’ve lost. But then the downhills come and all is well. John |
Originally Posted by sw20
(Post 22605417)
I like to do Box Hill after Barhatch Lane, makes Box Hill seem flat :lol:
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Massive steep grades on Zwift ;)
I know my own neighborhood better so can generally steer around the hills |
Originally Posted by pdlamb
(Post 22605162)
I took the BRP handout on cycling climbs a few years back and built a spreadsheet with the grades by mile. IIRC the steepest parts are in the first 20 miles or so climbing out of Cherokee, and then the road gaps the Parkway crosses; max was about 8%.
Beautiful riding! Wait until 1:38 then the riding really starts. Not me! |
Originally Posted by terrymorse
(Post 22605330)
Yes, we're getting older. But maybe using those lower gears means we're not getting weaker, but smarter.
I've been working to get back in shape since the beginning of last month, and my favorite training ride is Mt. Hamilton, with extended sections of 5-7%. 20+ years ago, I would do most of that ride on a 19 rear cog, dropping down to a 21 cog in the steeper spots. Recently, I'm spending most of the time in the 21 cog, dropping down to 24 when I feel the need. But here's the fun part: I'm not substantially slower, I'm just spinning a higher cadence. And my legs feel less spent at the end of the ride. Seems smarter to me. The best climbing woman I know is a masher. She runs a standard double but I don't know what her cassette is. Her watts per kilo must be very high, she grinds those big gears and drops a lot of people. She finished 3rd woman and 36th overall in the Circle of Doom race, which is 9500 feet in 75 miles. She's going to be 50 next year, I wonder if she will consider a gear change.:) |
Typically 5-12%
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