Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21602965)

There's the Caledonia and the Caledonia 5. The 5 has the internal routing and starts at $4300 for the frameset; wouldn't be surprised if it also had slightly better crabon a la the R3 vs R5.

Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21602933)

Also looks like it doesn't have fully hidden cabling with the mechanical Ultegra complete.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21602972)

Ew. Weird that they can route the brake lines but not the cables. Too much friction in the bends? Not enough space for brake lines and cables? :foo:

Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21602978)

Generally I think only the Di2 cables can go fully-internal. It’s part of why the fully-integrated bikes are so expensive; there’s no 105 version.

Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21602883)

"For your big, stupid rides" :lol:

That's really sweet, an aero bike that's advertised as able to take fenders? I wonder what the mounting method is, if there are hidden mounts on the inside of the frame or what. That would be incredible to be able to run real full coverage metal fenders, and if it looks like there's enough clearance in the front with the 30mm tires that you could maybe fit 28mm under them.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21602927)

What's a cm between friends?

Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 21603016)

my cervelo has mounts for fenders integrated into the frame.

Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21603073)

I assume they are threaded bosses?

I noticed that it doesn't have a seatstay bridge, did it come with a removable one?

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21602995)

No, I've definitely seen fully internal Ultegra mech - the Madone SLR, for one, pretty sure that I've seen a few others.

Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 21603089)

I don’t plan on using them anytime soon.

Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21602978)

Generally I think only the Di2 cables can go fully-internal. It’s part of why the fully-integrated bikes are so expensive; there’s no 105 version.

Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 21603185)

I thought di2 was wireless

Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21603169)

I feel a bit like a fool riding with them in the summer, plus the bike they're on is heavy and I'm slow on it.

I'm sure once fall rolls around I'll start appreciating them (and the bike they're on) more.

Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 21603185)

I thought di2 was wireless

Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21603152)

Hrm. I don’t look as closely at Trek as you. My guess is it’s a matter of the nature of the routing and whether Cervelo can accommodate gentle enough bends.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21602921)

Another thread reminded me of the temptation to MUP race this morning - it truly was a test. Some guy on a Motobecane with aero bars and a flappy jersey made a show of passing me while I was noodling along in z1. Well, I think that he tried to give me the look, but maybe I'm projecting. In any event, if ever there was a prime candidate for a MUP soul-crushing, this was he. But I resisted and rode my ride.

Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21603152)

My guess is it’s a matter of the nature of the routing and whether Cervelo can accommodate gentle enough bends.

Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21603224)

Kudos on your restraint.

Was it a BikesDirect Motobecane or an old one, fabriqué en France?

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21603210)

You might be right in another few months, but that's not the case right now.

Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21602883)

"For your big, stupid rides" :lol:

That's really sweet, an aero bike that's advertised as able to take fenders? I wonder what the mounting method is, if there are hidden mounts on the inside of the frame or what. That would be incredible to be able to run real full coverage metal fenders, and if it looks like there's enough clearance in the front with the 30mm tires that you could maybe fit 28mm under them.

Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 21603202)

Feeling like a fool and riding a bike are
​​​mutually exclusive. You're riding your bike for your pleasure. Who gives a **** what anyone else thinks

Originally Posted by phrantic09 (Post 21603406)

I just got home from a lunch ride. During said ride, I made a left with about 50 yards of room in front of a group of riders. Rode about three miles and had to stop to text one of my employees back. One of the riders caught up and asked me why I didn’t slow down so he could grab my wheel....

:wtf:

Originally Posted by big john (Post 21603562)

Weird.