Riding with a Patched Tube
Let’s say you were on ride and had flat, which you patched and put back on to complete your ride home. When you get home do you remove/trash the patched tube and replace with a new tube or do you continue ride with the patched tube until it flats again then replace? Just curious, what others do.
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Originally Posted by sjammer
(Post 22048597)
Let’s say you were on ride and had flat, which you patched and put back on to complete your ride home. When you get home do you remove/trash the patched tube and replace with a new tube or do you continue ride with the patched tube until it flats again then replace? Just curious, what others do.
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Back in the day, I'd put a new one in on the side of the road and decide whether to patch the old one when I got home. But then I stopped using tubes and getting flats.
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Originally Posted by sjammer
(Post 22048597)
Let’s say you were on ride and had flat, which you patched and put back on to complete your ride home. When you get home do you remove/trash the patched tube and replace with a new tube or do you continue ride with the patched tube until it flats again then replace? Just curious, what others do.
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Since the glue was changed in patch kits, I haven't had much luck with them. I carry a new spare tube. I still have a patch kit in the bag, as a last resort. To answer the question, yes, I would replace and trash the patched tube with a new tube as soon as possible.
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If done properly, the patch is a permanent fix. Just leave it and ride on.
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Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 22048634)
If done properly, the patch is a permanent fix. Just leave it and ride on.
I never replace a tube unless it is irreparably damaged. I am mostly riding tubeless these days, but when I was using tubes, most would accumulate multiple patches. There are times when a patch will not work, such as a puncture or tear near the valve stem. But for successfully applied patches, I have never had one fail. Subsequent leaks in the same tube are always from a puncture elsewhere. |
I rarely give up on a tube because of patches. It's amusing to see how many can accumulate. The tube may eventually fail near or at the valve and get tossed. I don't normally patch while on a ride but will patch and reinstall the punctured tube at home. That way I know the patch is good and/or there isn't another puncture I've missed.
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I myself have done it both ways. I carry one spare tube on my rides with a patch kit. I will change tube on the side of the road and patch the other later. I will discard the popped tube if the "snake bite" can not be covered by a patch, otherwise I patch and reuse.
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I keep new tubes at home base and only carry patch kit. If I make it home without losing pressure, I ride it till it leaks again. Patches don't bother me and only chuck tubes if they're not patchable. IE:valve stem damage.
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I'm lazy and tubes are cheap. Replace the tube with a spare on the roadside, throw it away when I get home.
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Clarification, there are two types of patches:
1. Traditional patches with vulcanizing fluid "glue" these are permanent. 2. Newer "peel/stick" patches which are designed to be temporary and are NOT permanent. I am sure someone will chime in that he got a permanent repair with one of these, but I would advise you NOT consider them permanent. |
Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 22049135)
Clarification, there are two types of patches:
1. Traditional patches with vulcanizing fluid "glue" these are permanent. 2. Newer "peel/stick" patches which are designed to be temporary and are NOT permanent. I am sure someone will chime in that he got a permanent repair with one of these, but I would advise you NOT consider them permanent. When I first started using those sticker patches, I did in fact think they were permanent. That caused a problem when they started to fail out on the road, including the spare which had a couple of stickers on as well, and putting a fresh sticker over an old sticker was futile. |
A couple factors worth considering -- patches do add rotating weight, plus can lead to wheel imbalances. So there is that..
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I admit to being a stickler for using good tubes: I put a 6 patch limit on any tube. I've never had a patch failure in the past 25 years. I always ride with 2 tubes, patch kit, boot kit, and a spare tire. I loan that stuff more than I use it, but I've been riding long enough that I've used all of that stuff myself at least once. The great thing about the spare tire is that I never have to hold anyone up looking for the frigging radial wire in my tire. I just put a fresh tube, probably patched, in my spare tire and I'm back on the road in 5 minutes. And I never have a tire failure I can't fix,
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
(Post 22049529)
A couple factors worth considering -- patches do add rotating weight, plus can lead to wheel imbalances. So there is that..
Ever weigh a patch? Less than a gram. |
Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 22049629)
:troll:
Ever weigh a patch? Less than a gram. |
Originally Posted by Sy Reene
(Post 22049642)
You actually took that comment seriously? Relax
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Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 22049655)
It’s been a rough week.
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In 60,000+ miles of road cycling on crappy Massachusetts roads I've had one patch fail, and that was a few weeks ago. The mistake that I made was using on the front wheel. No harm, it went down slowly. Most likely a poor patch job by me.
Other than that, no problems at all. 'll go with three patches before I trash a tube. I tried tubeless, but with Schwalbe One tires, I got a leak almost every ride. I got tired of cleaning sealant off my frame. I have no problem using patched tubes. |
Originally Posted by datlas
(Post 22049135)
Clarification, there are two types of patches:
2. Newer "peel/stick" patches which are designed to be temporary and are NOT permanent. I am sure someone will chime in that he got a permanent repair with one of these, but I would advise you NOT consider them permanent. They put in sandpaper for a reason, and you really need to rough up the surface AND removed the oxidized outer layer, so do more than you would every think you need to do. Then after putting the patch on, burnish it in place, thoroughly. If you skip this, it won't stick. I have had the same experience with both nylon jacket repair tape and adhesive velcro. You MUST burnish adhesives, hard, so that they go into the fabric (or fubber) thoroughly and are defintely pressed in place. I use the edge of a coin for this on all three types, tires, nylon, velcro, and there's never a problem after that. Just laying any of these on with a bit of thumb rubbing won't do it. If you read reviews of any of these three, you'll see that there are plenty of people who can't get them to stick, but it's not a problem with the adhesive. |
Originally Posted by ksryder
(Post 22049101)
I'm lazy and tubes are cheap. Replace the tube with a spare on the roadside, throw it away when I get home.
Going on two years now without a single flat on tubeless. To me it's a solved problem. :) I have a friend I used to ride with who would insist on taking my old tubes home and patching them. As far as I know he has an entire garage worth of old tubes and 99% threadbare tires. Not that he ever uses or needs any of them. |
Originally Posted by Sy Reene
(Post 22049529)
A couple factors worth considering -- patches do add rotating weight, plus can lead to wheel imbalances. So there is that..
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Originally Posted by Hit Factor
(Post 22048624)
Since the glue was changed in patch kits, I haven't had much luck with them. I carry a new spare tube. I still have a patch kit in the bag, as a last resort. To answer the question, yes, I would replace and trash the patched tube with a new tube as soon as possible.
Originally Posted by sjammer
(Post 22048597)
Let’s say you were on ride and had flat, which you patched and put back on to complete your ride home. When you get home do you remove/trash the patched tube and replace with a new tube or do you continue ride with the patched tube until it flats again then replace? Just curious, what others do.
Originally Posted by LarrySellerz
(Post 22048623)
ride the patch to failure… that’s why you put it on instead of changing the tube!
Originally Posted by caloso
(Post 22048634)
If done properly, the patch is a permanent fix. Just leave it and ride on.
I do carry 2 tubes (new or patched). I've had long cuts in tires, blowouts, broken valve stems/leaks at the base and some days the Gods aren't smiling. And the single best way to get that Murphy guy to behave is to be prepared. |
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