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BigChief 12-28-15 09:16 PM

That could, very well, be true. I was transferring my experience with old English motorcycles to bicycles and I'm sure different forces and wear patterns apply. Old triumph Bonnevilles will eat up drive side main bearings at twice the rate of NDS bearings.

BigChief 12-29-15 05:58 AM

Planning on ordering some parts. Can anyone tell me what length spokes I'll need to lace up a 40H SA AW hub and a SA 32H hub to Sun CR-18 26x590 rims? Thanks

JohnDThompson 12-29-15 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 18420625)
Planning on ordering some parts. Can anyone tell me what length spokes I'll need to lace up a 40H SA AW hub and a SA 32H hub to Sun CR-18 26x590 rims? Thanks

For 3-cross lacing, I use 272mm spokes. It's also good practice to use a couple spoke washers under each spoke head to take up the slack with modern spokes designed for thick aluminum flanges when lacing to the thin steel flanges of the AW hub.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21DPs-qB8JL.jpg

http://www.amazon.com/Brass-Spoke-Wa.../dp/B008G85RVA

smontanaro 12-29-15 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 18420813)

I notice the description reads (in part): Removes tactical play in spokes

I wonder how you remove strategic play in spokes. :D

BigChief 12-29-15 10:01 AM

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Thanks @JohnDThompson. How about for this regular 32H Raleigh hub?
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=495639

JohnDThompson 12-29-15 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by BigChief (Post 18421002)
Thanks @JohnDThompson. How about for this regular 32H Raleigh hub?
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=495639

If it has a 34mm diameter flange, 3-cross lacing should use 284mm spokes, again preferably with washers.

BigChief 12-29-15 11:51 AM

Thanks again for your help. This really is a great group here

redfoxdogs 12-29-15 05:25 PM

Really behind on posts, but I like the paint job. Is it more of an olive green, or is it my monitor? I like the rear rack quite a bit.

redfoxdogs 12-29-15 05:39 PM

Love the paint on this!



Originally Posted by Bicyclz (Post 18357231)
Here's one of my Royal Enfield Superlights.
From circa 1960 with 531 mainframe (IE. Not forks or rear stays) which has original paint.
Quite a nice period machine in my opinion.
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/...20etc%20LR.jpg
http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/...ofile%20LR.jpg

Brakes, stem, bars not original, but I have them in reserve: )


redfoxdogs 12-29-15 05:50 PM

Beautiful!


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 18375011)
This past Sunday was a special day for me. On a grey cool day I donned a tweed cap and wool sweater and went for my first ride on the Raleigh Roadster, "Sir Wayes A. Tonne". Wow! This bike is a different ride than I had imagined. Smooth, upright, momentum, all words describing the tour of the 'hood. Thanks to all BF peeps for your help and support.


redfoxdogs 12-29-15 06:55 PM

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http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=495723


This was on the cover of the Williams-Sonoma catalog that arrived in the mail today. Looks a little like my Twenty, big wheel in the back. Cool bars to hold the front basket. What is it? Cover says the store is The Cook's Atelier in Beaune, France.

BigChief 12-29-15 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by redfoxdogs (Post 18422338)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=495723


This was on the cover of the Williams-Sonoma catalog that arrived in the mail today. Looks a little like my Twenty, big wheel in the back. Cool bars to hold the front basket. What is it? Cover says the store is The Cook's Atelier in Beaune, France.


1940s Low Gravity Carrier
http://www.jaysmarine.com/1948raleighcat_us_22_lg.jpg

clubman 12-29-15 08:29 PM


Originally Posted by redfoxdogs (Post 18422338)
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=495723


This was on the cover of the Williams-Sonoma catalog that arrived in the mail today. Looks a little like my Twenty, big wheel in the back. Cool bars to hold the front basket. What is it? Cover says the store is The Cook's Atelier in Beaune, France.

It's a low gravity carrier of which there were hundreds if not thousands made in Europe. Guessing a brand correctly would require psychic powers.

Or email them info@thecooksatelier.com :)

clubman 12-29-15 08:35 PM

I own one of these but it's a mess. Weighs at least 45 lbs.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q...o/delivery.jpg

CuttersRidge 12-29-15 08:48 PM

That Royal Enfield is indeed, dashing, that company has flair, as to the other topic at hand, I always called them Butcher Bikes. That CCM is fine as well.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5016/5...028302c5_z.jpg

And a modern company in Copenhagen calls themselves that (with an "and" in it):

Butchers & Bicycles

And work bikes and so on, they get called. Very nice to drive things around on.

CuttersRidge 12-29-15 09:06 PM

New term for me, I didn't realize there were what people call "Mexican Cargo Bikes" so do a websearch if one wants to know more. Kind of cool, all of the ones I see so far are that orangish-yellow, orange cream maybe?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2460/...a98bd236e0.jpg

Looks like a company called "Mercurio" make a commercial state-side version.

I also find "Dutch Cargo Bikes", so one can check it out for themselves. "Long John Cargo" bikes too. Must be a brand, I think I've heard of them.

And that Chinese bike, non-cargo, named after some bird? I've seen some of those, "Pigeon"? I'm not sure, it's foggy now, but I thought that was a bit like a "Roadster".

jamesj 12-30-15 03:36 PM

Hey guys still on the look out for a pair of these adjusters for my 3 speed.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/428/20...b339f2cd_z.jpg

redfoxdogs 12-30-15 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by CuttersRidge (Post 18422559)
That Royal Enfield is indeed, dashing, that company has flair, as to the other topic at hand, I always called them Butcher Bikes. That CCM is fine as well.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5016/5...028302c5_z.jpg

And a modern company in Copenhagen calls themselves that (with an "and" in it):

Butchers & Bicycles

And work bikes and so on, they get called. Very nice to drive things around on.

I really could have used one of these in junior high. I rode my 3-speed to school every day with guitar, flute, piccolo, music for band, orchestra and guitar class and my books and lunch. It was very awkward. I rode with no hands or barely one, baskets front and back. I routinely got my pants caught in the chain when I forgot a rubber band. Mom was not happy with the tearing and chain grease. I probably should have found a guitar backpack, but I had an old cardboard case. Backpacks weren't really popular for girls until I was in high school.

nlerner 12-30-15 04:36 PM

One thing that's interesting about those small-front wheel carrier bikes is that they've been around for just about as long as the Raleigh Sports. Here's a page from the 1938 Raleigh catalog:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...ighCarrier.jpg

michaelz28 12-30-15 05:34 PM

schwinn called it a "cycle truck " [IMG]http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/h...pswf1vzcfd.jpg[/IMG]

arex 12-30-15 08:48 PM

Odd that these bikes are all single-speed...you'd think they'd be prime candidates for an AW hub.

erileykc 12-30-15 08:49 PM

Rod brakes on a heavy frame with a heavy load. That must have been an exciting ride. :rolleyes:

nlerner 12-30-15 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by erileykc (Post 18425035)
Rod brakes on a heavy frame with a heavy load. That must have been an exciting ride. :rolleyes:

I was thinking that, too. Sounds like the plot for a madcap comedy.

michaelz28 12-30-15 09:59 PM

the schwinn may have been a 2 speed kick back bendix

michaelz28 12-30-15 10:05 PM

they used these ( schwinn ) at the GM assembly plant i worked at in the 80s . the bikes were probably from the 30s or 40s . they never left the property . the place was huge and the foremen uesd them .


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