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randyjawa 05-18-22 02:42 PM

Has anyone used these handlebars..?
 
Lucky me - I got another Marinoni the other day and I really like the bike, even though I have not ridden it yet. But one thing about the bike bothers me - the handlebars.

Personally, I really dislike the appearance but cannot help but wonder if they are worth using. With that in mind, I thought to ask others what they thing of the aesthetics and ride quality of these handlebars...
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e8e8e8766e.jpg

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...46404b98cd.jpg

nlerner 05-18-22 02:57 PM

I acquired a bike years back with trekking bars like those. I just sawed off the extensions to convert them to “regular” bars.

Dylansbob 05-18-22 03:20 PM

Those aren't trekking bars, those are Scott Drop-In I think. I've always wanted to try a set, just because they're from that magic early aero bar time (89-91)

I've often wondered how they would be set up inverted (a la DUI style), but with the brakes installed to approximate a normal hoods position. A riser drop, if you will.

DonkeyShow 05-18-22 03:21 PM

Kinda wish I had that 90* end bit on my bars.

tiger1964 05-18-22 03:32 PM

I'm sure there's a way around the handlebar tape length issue depicted in the photo.

Velo Mule 05-18-22 03:38 PM

Those are the 'bars that Greg Lemond used, if I remember that correctly. They may be period correct to the bike, but traditional drop bars without the extensions may work as well and look a bit better. Greg was trying things to be more aerodynamic.

If you don't use them, hold onto them or sell them separate. Given their limited run, they may be valuable to someone.

randyjawa 05-18-22 05:10 PM

Who ever can answer this question first, gets the bars. One catch, the recipient has to pay for shipping. The question is...

"What is the difference between a pregnant woman and a light bulb?"

Wileyone 05-18-22 05:15 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f42ca3e40c.png

WGB 05-18-22 05:18 PM

@randyjawa You can unscrew the light 💡??

Ps: What width are they? Reason I asked is having trouble finding wider bars....

jonny7 05-18-22 05:30 PM

These bars also often came with Specialized Allez circa 1993-4. I've seen them at least twice and used them myself on a recent build. I think they are esthetically nice and give a unique touch to the bike. But the extra bits of the bars are now just used when goofing around.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b65fbbc404.jpg

delbiker1 05-18-22 06:07 PM

I remember the bars. I do not see how that could most riders Definitely do not like the look. But the Allez looks pretty fine.

bikingshearer 05-18-22 06:10 PM

Greg Lemond used 'em. Pretty much no one else in the pro peloton did. That may not be the last word on the subject, but it does say something.

Personally, I'd be worried about smacking my knees on them on those rare occasions when I get out of the saddle to do more than stretch.

randyjawa 05-18-22 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by WGB (Post 22511613)
@randyjawa You can unscrew the light 💡??

Ps: What width are they? Reason I asked is having trouble finding wider bars....

Ding - ding -ding We have a winner. But to get the grand prize (ie the measured width) you have to answer one more question...

"What is the difference between light and hard?"

Just kidding, the 46cm outside to outside bars are yours, providing you cover the cost to ship. The answer to the question is - "Anyone can sleep with a light on."

If you want the bars, pm me your name and shipping address. I will get a cost quote from Canada Post and get back to you with the cost so that you can make your final decision.

Insidious C. 05-19-22 10:02 AM

I used Scott drop ins in the early 90s. Found the top uncomfortable to to large-ish inner bend radius.

kermie 05-19-22 10:12 AM

My 1993 Allez Pro came with the Scott Drop In type bars. Back then I used them some, but the last couple of years have seen a decline in their use so I replaced them.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9236f54dfd.jpg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2588eb142a.jpg

bamboobike4 05-19-22 10:36 AM

I'd like to see a picture....
 
...of someone actually with their hands on the "drop-ins."
I've never been able to visualize that position.

smd4 05-19-22 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by bamboobike4 (Post 22512347)
I've never been able to visualize that position.

Really? Imagine someone with their hands placed on top of the bars near the stem. Now visualize them lower...

kermie 05-19-22 10:41 AM

Here is one of LeMond which caught my attention back in the day. Not my photo though.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...840db518cc.jpg

zandoval 05-19-22 10:47 AM

Sure would like to try them.... But those days are long gone... Fun, Fun, FUN!

Chuckk 05-19-22 01:24 PM

Super flexy
I put a pair on my Lemond - just because.
I think I remember that it was Scott's reaction to having their original aero bars outlawed.
Seems like I heard that Greg didn't like them either.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...44d9ab3211.jpg

I may be misremembering, but I think they are also not bulged at the center, but standard diameter all over to simplify construction and enable fitting the brake levers.
Then they came with a very wide pair of spacers to help stiffen up the bars some.
Didn't know that then, so I used normal spacers to fit the stem.

machinist42 05-19-22 02:03 PM

P.O.C.? Not As Such, Yet...
 
I have accumulated two (2) sets of these now with the intention of using them on Touring Rigs. Mounting lights and what have you on the lower tier frees upper tier hand positions.
I've only done mock-ups, and as the Voyageur I'm currently setting up has bar-end shifters... (Would be awkward? I'll confess to having tried it and though it does make Double Shifting through Half Step Gearing "easier," it sort of also makes it obligatory.)

The Lotus Odyssey will get a set.

The Lower Tier could also provide an anchor for a handlebar bag, so if the First Responder changes their mind, please keep me in mind? While maybe not for Racing, for casual Sport Touring these have something extra to offer?

repechage 05-19-22 02:44 PM


Originally Posted by bikingshearer (Post 22511675)
Greg Lemond used 'em. Pretty much no one else in the pro peloton did. That may not be the last word on the subject, but it does say something.

Personally, I'd be worried about smacking my knees on them on those rare occasions when I get out of the saddle to do more than stretch.

Greg did use them in the TdF. To good effect.
Problem was they were Patented. The others could not, did not use them because of that, contractual limits or the fact they were not invented by a European company.
The UCI was under pressure to outlaw them and they did, claiming that they were more dangerous, one could hook oneself?
(the same could be said for brake levers, or traditional bars even more.)
too bad they did not just fit a bridge between the two ends and reapplied for a rule interpretation...
there was a company that did for a brief time did market a crossbar near the ends of a traditional road bar, the rule change killed that.
Cinelli was not immune as their "spinaci" bar set was outlawed for mass start races also. Again, Patented.

Today, Canyon has an interesting bar fitted to the Grail carbon frame models. Not UCI legal either. But, who cares?

bamboobike4 05-19-22 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by smd4 (Post 22512357)
Really? Imagine someone with their hands placed on top of the bars near the stem. Now visualize them lower...

I can't imagine invisible bars. But I can look at the pictures.


Originally Posted by kermie (Post 22512361)
Here is one of LeMond which caught my attention back in the day. Not my photo though.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...840db518cc.jpg

Gracias.

bamboobike4 05-19-22 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by machinist42 (Post 22512622)
The Lower Tier could also provide an anchor for a handlebar bag,
While maybe not for Racing, for casual Sport Touring these have something extra to offer?

Tow hook.

WGB 05-19-22 06:44 PM

@machinist42

I'm with you. Here is what I said
Ps: What width are they? Reason I asked is having trouble finding wider bars

I saw them as:

a) wider than what I have
b) useful for mounting lights, etc and (just like you) what have you on the lower tier frees upper tier hand positions.


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