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WhyFi 11-18-21 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22312405)
You guys actually care about the epithets of an algorithm?

No, I don't, which is why I'd prefaced my post with "it doesn't matter."

Mojo31 11-18-21 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22312402)
Not from what you've described about the knee, which sounds like a run of the mill weekend warrior thing, related to the new trainer. I am stumped as to how trauma to the leg could have caused that at such a delay. Also, if there were any bony abnormalities on the X-rays, I would hope they would have told you.

MRI at the time might have been a better indicator of any issues once bone fracture was ruled out.

Yes, I'm a doctor but not a medical doctor. ;)

abshipp 11-18-21 02:43 PM

RIP my rear wheel.

Found cracking at the spoke holes :(

genejockey 11-18-21 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22312404)
If you go to your Activities calendar, you'll see indications of bumping in to the ceiling if you did, in fact, bump in to the ceiling on a given ride. It's similar to when you hit a new/season PR for a particular duration - it'll be a bright, bold notation.

I reset it from 30% to 40%, after I saw it completely removed the Forward Sprint from the ZA Finish Line ride - 24 seconds of 800W average. I'm proud of that effort!

WhyFi 11-18-21 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 22312424)
RIP my rear wheel.

Found cracking at the spoke holes :(

So much for re-lacing it, but...

:bday: Happy New Wheelset Day!!! :bday:

genejockey 11-18-21 02:47 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22312405)
You guys actually care about the epithets of an algorithm?

Nope. Just curious.

genejockey 11-18-21 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22312392)
Also, as you can see from my Season, 84- and 42-day plots, they have a very loose definition of All Arounder, which means they're probably very particular about defining specialists, likely much more so than Zwift.

What, you mean Zwift isn't The Ultimate Authority? Who'da thunk it?

genejockey 11-18-21 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22312405)
You guys actually care about the epithets of an algorithm?

On the plus side, at least it didn't tell me "You're too fat for this sport."

Eric F 11-18-21 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22312358)
I poked around my data on intervals.icu a bit, but I'm damned if I understand it. They tag me as an "all rounder", whereas Zwift Academy tagged me as a sprinter. I guess "all rounder" can mean "sucks at everything", while "sprinter" means "sucks least at sprinting".

I definitely categorize myself as a "all rounder". All of me is rounder that it used to be. As for bike skills, I'm definitely of the sprinter variety, with peak power above 1200w.

EDIT: Holy moly! I just looked at my power curve for all of 2021. It says my peak power is 1843w. I don't believe it. Seriously. I think it's an error with my PowerTap hub.

WhyFi 11-18-21 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22312428)
I reset it from 30% to 40%, after I saw it completely removed the Forward Sprint from the ZA Finish Line ride - 24 seconds of 800W average. I'm proud of that effort!

If you can look through the Zwift or Strava summaries and you don't see any weird power spikes, it's probably fine to give yourself a larger margin of error. IIRC, I lifted my limit a little bit and then bumped in to it again. Lifted it again. Bumped in to it again. Finally I got to the point when I just said "**** it" and turned it off or put it at 200% or something.

FWIW, I've never seen a weird power spike with my power meter, though I suppose a smart trainer might be more prone to that kind of error, because of how they're calculating power.

Mojo31 11-18-21 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 22312424)
RIP my rear wheel.

Found cracking at the spoke holes :(

I'm just thankful you chose to ignore me with respect to that Time. ;)

Sorry about your cracking wheel.

big john 11-18-21 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 22312424)
RIP my rear wheel.

Found cracking at the spoke holes :(

Welcome to my world. You're just getting started.

genejockey 11-18-21 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22312450)
If you can look through the Zwift or Strava summaries and you don't see any weird power spikes, it's probably fine to give yourself a larger margin of error. IIRC, I lifted my limit a little bit and then bumped in to it again. Lifted it again. Bumped in to it again. Finally I got to the point when I just said "**** it" and turned it off or put it at 200% or something.

FWIW, I've never seen a weird power spike with my power meter, though I suppose a smart trainer might be more prone to that kind of error, because of how they're calculating power.

I've never seen unexplained power spikes with the Snap, but I have seen unexplained cadence spikes. I think the battery in the sensor might have been dodgy, because it gave readings in the thousands for a couple seconds when I was just starting rides a couple times. I guess I understand the reasoning behind it but the reasoning seems kind of circular.

datlas 11-18-21 03:00 PM

As one of the Addiction resident physicians, my personal bias is that imaging (and testing) is OVER-rated by patients. More valuable is talking to the patient, getting a good history, and a good but focused physical exam is usually better than imaging and tests. YMMV.

genejockey 11-18-21 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 22312424)
RIP my rear wheel.

Found cracking at the spoke holes :(

I still haven't gotten around to unlacing my old Dura Ace wheels from the Ritchey so I can rebuild the wheels, which I really SHOULD do. Or buy a new wheelset for it and be done. But those hubs are so sweet!!!

Eric F 11-18-21 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 22312424)
RIP my rear wheel.

Found cracking at the spoke holes :(

Time for a new bike, obviously.

MoAlpha 11-18-21 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22312446)
On the plus side, at least it didn't tell me "You're too fat for this sport."

Email David, the developer. Heís very responsive.

genejockey 11-18-21 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22312465)
As one of the Addiction resident physicians, my personal bias is that imaging (and testing) is OVER-rated by patients. More valuable is talking to the patient, getting a good history, and a good but focused physical exam is usually better than imaging and tests. YMMV.

So you're saying a thousand words are worth a picture?

MoAlpha 11-18-21 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22312465)
As one of the Addiction resident physicians, my personal bias is that imaging (and testing) is OVER-rated by patients. More valuable is talking to the patient, getting a good history, and a good but focused physical exam is usually better than imaging and tests. YMMV.

Certainly agree for musculoskeletal issues.

bampilot06 11-18-21 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22312402)
Not from what you've described about the knee, which sounds like a run of the mill weekend warrior thing, related to the new trainer. I am stumped as to how trauma to the leg could have caused that at such a delay. Also, if there were any bony abnormalities on the X-rays, I would hope they would have told you.


I donít know, Just going off what she said. Itís a different doctor that the one that originally looked at the x rays.

MoAlpha 11-18-21 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22312474)
I donít know, Just going off what she said. Itís a different doctor that the one that originally looked at the x rays.

Well, let us know what happens!

phrantic09 11-18-21 03:06 PM

Iím just happy to have accurate power data again. It seems as though my V3 have been dropping a significant amount of data for a while. So while NP looks okay, averages have been low and effort power has been off too.

genejockey 11-18-21 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22312468)
Email David, the developer. Heís very responsive.

Not sure that would be a popular feature.

WhyFi 11-18-21 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22312463)
I've never seen unexplained power spikes with the Snap, but I have seen unexplained cadence spikes. I think the battery in the sensor might have been dodgy, because it gave readings in the thousands for a couple seconds when I was just starting rides a couple times. I guess I understand the reasoning behind it but the reasoning seems kind of circular.

I've seen some wonky cadence stuff with the Elite, too; mostly it just bounces around a little more than it should, though I do see the occasional spike (though never *that* high). With the power, I can set the Elite trainer to grab the signal off of the Power2Max, which is more accurate, it's just unfortunate that I can't do the same for cadence.

genejockey 11-18-21 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22312474)
I donít know, Just going off what she said. Itís a different doctor that the one that originally looked at the x rays.

My doctor said, "You're too fat!"

I said, "I want a second opinion!"

He said, "Okay, you're ugly, too!"


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