Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22192893)

Mrs. GeneJockey told me last week that when she was a kid, and her Dad came home from work, she'd beg him to play with her, but he'd say, "Nah. That's too much like work!"

I not only found this heartbreaking, but also it led me to wonder what he did for work, that it was so much like playing with his own children....

Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22192901)

Won't go there.

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22192887)

Swap pedals every time I swap bikes? Hell, it's enough of a chore swapping saddlebag, Varia, rear light, head unit, and pump! Now you want me to swap pedals?

No thanks. Too much like work.

Originally Posted by Eric F (Post 22192897)

70 is a good-size group, but some of the BIG groups in the So Cal area will typically be well north of 100 riders. Those rides are all FAST. Fast does a good job of filtering out the squirrels.

I've ridden with and raced against La Grange club members for years. Everyone I've come across has been good people and good riders.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192914)

Of course I agree. And even though I usually ride the Hananero, I have zero interest in getting a PM. It’s enough for me to have it on the trainer.

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22192926)

Plus, you know, if you get TWO power meters - like a pedal-based PM AND the one on the trainer, and they don't agree.....

It's like the old saying, "The man with a watch always knows what time it is. The man with TWO watches is never sure."

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192823)

I did four club/group rides with LaGrange club here in LA. Their rides are open (membership not needed). Compared to my club, two major differences stand out:

First, the number of riders is HUGE. Sunday’s ride had about 70 riders. The other rides had around 20-30 riders. My club typically has 6-15 cyclists on a ride. If more than 15 it’s almost a given that they will split into two groups.

Second, these men and women really know how to ride safely. Pretty much everyone was steady and stable and held their lines. I did not see a single wobbly/squirrelly rider. In my club, despite our best efforts to correct or weed out bad behavior, there is almost always a few riders who are either inexperienced and/or oblivious which, to be honest, makes me a little nervous riding near them. It was a non-issue here. I must find out their secret.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192929)

But the man without a watch is happier.

Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22192892)

Driving into Telluride today, I was surprised by the number of roadies climbing mountains. Crazy the slope and distances steadily climbed. It's more humbling than the girl passing me on the flat.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192918)

Cool. For whatever reasons, our club has some members who are not quite so safe. They wobble and/or ride slighly erratically, or stand up without announcement, these are typically only a little dangerous but the club is not good at telling the bad actors to clean up their act. We did have one rider who was clearly a menace and had attempts at remediation that failed, and he was banned from the club.

But I am talking about only slight wobblers, and it seems every club ride has one or two like this, which is why I am starting to prefer private “by invitation only” rides with my friends because we are all safe and careful, and we can trust each other. The older I get, the more I want to minimize risk of crashing.

Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22192937)

It's how we roll here.

Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22192955)

I'm impressed, but none were very fast. Until they turned around.

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22192905)

He was an electrician.

Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22192172)

Are you still on your dog vacation?

Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22192794)

I got passed by a backhoe loader earlier today. :o

It almost made me wish for an eBike.

Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22192892)

Driving into Telluride today, I was surprised by the number of roadies climbing mountains. Crazy the slope and distances steadily climbed. It's more humbling than the girl passing me on the flat.

Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192918)

Cool. For whatever reasons, our club has some members who are not quite so safe. They wobble and/or ride slighly erratically, or stand up without announcement, these are typically only a little dangerous but the club is not good at telling the bad actors to clean up their act. We did have one rider who was clearly a menace and had attempts at remediation that failed, and he was banned from the club.

But I am talking about only slight wobblers, and it seems every club ride has one or two like this, which is why I am starting to prefer private “by invitation only” rides with my friends because we are all safe and careful, and we can trust each other. The older I get, the more I want to minimize risk of crashing.

Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22193042)

BITD, I rode front Montrose over Dallas Divide then most of the way up Lizard Head on the penultimate day of a tour to Cortez. Tough stretch.

Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22192329)

Driving the other day made me think about how wide the central time zone is and how absurdly different sunrise/sunset times would be for people at the Eastern and Western edges.

Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22192356)

Water temp or air temp?

Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22192846)

I used to look at the Estimated Power and think, "It's so spiky! It can't possibly be real." Then I got a Smart Trainer with built in power meter and damned if the power trace isn't all spiky. The Scientist in my says I should get a power meter so I can see what the power is measured more directly than passing through the whole drivetrain, the wheel, the tire/roller interface, and whatever internals in the trainer before power is measured. But that jut brings back the question of how to deal with 8 bikes.

Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 22193071)

One my first and only (sprint) triathlon, I was training in an outdoor pool in Mérida. Water temp hovered around 104A. In Virginia, the lake water was 76A. That first leg was tough

Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 22191750)

Twerpy young guys with beards and meticulously trimmed beards on straight guys always seem sort of smug and pretentious to me. I shave my entire head with an electric shaver these days and it gives me pleasure.