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PalmettoUpstate 05-02-13 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by clasher (Post 15570698)
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8540/...83b21713_z.jpg

Finally fixed my folding bike back up to shiny... I can't bring myself to upgrade it and it's just a bit too small for me to ride comfortably. Put a new chain and a bigger cog on, as well as new pads, cables and housing for the brakes. The shifter cable looks a little rough but it shifts fine so I'm gonna leave it alone. I'd love to get a frame or a beat up 20 to rebuild with modern parts but I couldn't bring myself to "upgrade" this one since it still works fine... gotta thin the herd a bit before I start up more projects though.

Clasher I have been wanting very much to pick one of these up. Wish you weren't so far up there because I'd sure take this one off your hands if not. I definitely NEVER see these around here.

noglider 05-02-13 04:14 PM

Palmetto, maybe you'll find a reason to visit this region. I'll be living in NYC soon, and I could give you a great tour of Manhattan by bike. And while you're here, maybe you can talk me into selling you my Twenty. I'm souping it up, and when I'm done, there's a good chance I'll want to ditch it. It's getting a drum brake front hub, racing tires, and alloy rims. I might even put drop bars on it.

PalmettoUpstate 05-02-13 06:10 PM


Originally Posted by photogravity (Post 13720808)
As far as the cog, that's a 24t. I bought a dozen from an eBay seller in Germany. Where I live we have hills and I'd not be able to get up any of them without pushing were it not for that cog. When I first got the bike I replaced the chain, and put a 22t cog on at that time, so I did not need to add any length to the chain. Typically if you're going from the normally installed cogs (18 or 19 ime), you'd need to replace the chain or add links to the existing chain.

Uh pg, second time you've mentioned that lot of 24T hubs you bought from the German. Do you perhaps have a link for same?

And BTW, I am diligently but enjoyably reading thru this thread and if you provided said link at a later post than 2902 please accept my apology for troubling you with my question.

PalmettoUpstate 05-02-13 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 15581054)
Palmetto, maybe you'll find a reason to visit this region. I'll be living in NYC soon, and I could give you a great tour of Manhattan by bike. And while you're here, maybe you can talk me into selling you my Twenty. I'm souping it up, and when I'm done, there's a good chance I'll want to ditch it. It's getting a drum brake front hub, racing tires, and alloy rims. I might even put drop bars on it.

Man what's the deal with living in the city?

My French son-in-law's good buddy lives there, working for some bank, and I understand he lives in a closet for the same price that most people spend for a real pad....

wahoonc 05-02-13 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 15581458)
Uh pg, second time you've mentioned that lot of 24T hubs you bought from the German. Do you perhaps have a link for same?

And BTW, I am diligently but enjoyably reading thru this thread and if you provided said link at a later post than 2902 please accept my apology for troubling you with my question.

BikeSmith Design has them up to 26T....just sayin' ;)

Aaron :)

PalmettoUpstate 05-02-13 09:05 PM


Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 15581554)
BikeSmith Design has them up to 26T....just sayin' ;)

Aaron :)

Yeah, they have a number of grades and sizes.

I'd definitely have to see a major cost savings not to use them. You going to that Swap & Show in Eden, NC by chance? Looks like it is replete with stuff I'm not intere

PalmettoUpstate 05-02-13 09:06 PM

Looks like it is replete with stuff I'm not interested in but you may have a different insight...

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/bik/3760680301.html

wahoonc 05-03-13 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 15581965)
Yeah, they have a number of grades and sizes.

I'd definitely have to see a major cost savings not to use them. You going to that Swap & Show in Eden, NC by chance? Looks like it is replete with stuff I'm not intere

I have another event planned for that Saturday, I wasn't even aware of that show.

Aaron :)

gster 05-03-13 11:34 AM

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We have a date confirmed for this year's Toronto Vintage Bicycle Show. Sunday July 28th at Trinity Bellwoods Park on Queen West. More details to follow.
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=314516

PalmettoUpstate 05-03-13 12:19 PM

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Anyone care to explain where these stand in the English 3-speed firmament?

Thanks in advance!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/M-VINTAGE-PA...p2047675.l2557

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=314526 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=314527 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=314528 http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=314530

clubman 05-03-13 01:35 PM

First popularized on Raleigh Choppers (late 60's?), then often found on a number of second tier and rebranded 3 speed and single speed models in the early 70's. They came in white too.

markk900 05-03-13 02:53 PM

They are awful pedals too, IMO....no bearings in them at all, no way to service them. I took one set apart, searched the world for a clip to hold them together again, and they only lasted a little longer.....I love the look though!

Sixty Fiver 05-03-13 06:42 PM

Went on a wonderful ride this afternoon, taking the Springwater corridor from Portland to Sellwood where I wandered about in the many antique shops and found an antique Mora knife, enjoyed some delicious Chai, and received quite a few compliments from people on the old girl who will soon be 60.

http://www.ravingbikefiend.com/bikep...sportspdx3.JPG

I did not think I was moving all that fast but sure passed a lot of folks in Spandex who were riding modern bicycles but then, I also got passed by a young lady riding an old ten speed... who was riding no handed... while she was texting.

:)

PalmettoUpstate 05-03-13 08:12 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 15585665)
Went on a wonderful ride this afternoon, taking the Springwater corridor from Portland to Sellwood where I wandered about in the many antique shops and found an antique Mora knife, enjoyed some delicious Chai, and received quite a few compliments from people on the old girl who will soon be 60.

I did not think I was moving all that fast but sure passed a lot of folks in Spandex who were riding modern bicycles but then, I also got passed by a young lady riding an old ten speed... who was riding no handed... while she was texting.

:)

She looked like Angelina Jolie in spandex too, right? ;v)

Sixty Fiver 05-03-13 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 15585933)
She looked like Angelina Jolie in spandex too, right? ;v)

She had a bunch of nice tattoos and was riding in casual clothes... :)

PalmettoUpstate 05-03-13 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 15585941)
She had a bunch of nice tattoos and was riding in casual clothes... :)

Inspired by Sigourney no doubt....

Jeez... I'm not much into tattoos but I'd never say never to the right mix of specs....

Hey, getting back to the business at hand... you had some rather erudite things to say about Shimano hubs at 2891. You know, when it comes to excellence or inferiority, Idon't have a dog in the fight... Put succinctly, are the Shimano 3-speed hubs, ubiquitous in Asia as we know, the equal, lesser, or better than SA? [on balance I mean]

Sixty Fiver 05-04-13 02:06 AM

I am not running any Shimano 3 speed hubs at this time... not that there is anything is wrong with them but that I have no shortage of nice Sturmey Archer three speed hubs and because these have been serving me well for such a long time.

The early "333" hubs work well but are not serviceable, the latter models are pretty solid and don't seem to generate many complaints.

wahoonc 05-04-13 05:31 AM

Shimano hubs are hard to source parts for, older SA no problem for the AW, some of the other A* or F hubs can be a challenge.

Aaron :)

sykerocker 05-04-13 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by Sixty Fiver (Post 15586497)
I am not running any Shimano 3 speed hubs at this time... not that there is anything is wrong with them but that I have no shortage of nice Sturmey Archer three speed hubs and because these have been serving me well for such a long time.

The early "333" hubs work well but are not serviceable, the latter models are pretty solid and don't seem to generate many complaints.

Back when I was serving my apprenticeship at A.R. Adams Cycle, the boss taught me that the Shimano hub was superior to the Sturmey-Archer. Both seemed to work fine, but I remember the Shimano was easier and faster to field strip.

noglider 05-04-13 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 15581542)
Man what's the deal with living in the city?

My French son-in-law's good buddy lives there, working for some bank, and I understand he lives in a closet for the same price that most people spend for a real pad....

Different folks for different strokes, or something like that.

I grew up in Manhattan and am returning to my roots, now that I'm done spawning. My kids are on the west coast. We have a 1,400 square foot historic loft in Greenwich Village, where an episode of Law and Order was shot. We also have a place in the country, in a gorgeous part of New York State. And oddly enough, our living expenses will go down quite a bit by making this move. Plus, I stand to make more money.

Our current house is about 3,000 square feet, a Victorian house built in 1888. Our plot is a mere 62x100 feet, and the property taxes are $16,000 per year and rising fast. G'bye suburbia!

PalmettoUpstate 05-04-13 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by noglider (Post 15588361)
Different folks for different strokes, or something like that.

I grew up in Manhattan and am returning to my roots, now that I'm done spawning. My kids are on the west coast. We have a 1,400 square foot historic loft in Greenwich Village, where an episode of Law and Order was shot. We also have a place in the country, in a gorgeous part of New York State. And oddly enough, our living expenses will go down quite a bit by making this move. Plus, I stand to make more money.

Our current house is about 3,000 square feet, a Victorian house built in 1888. Our plot is a mere 62x100 feet, and the property taxes are $16,000 per year and rising fast. G'bye suburbia!

I hear ya! Sounds like the best of both worlds.

And 1400 sq. ft. is pretty comfortable IMO; --with ample room for two and enough room for "the spawn" and theirs to visit for short stretches.

For Mother's Day my two daughters are going in on a Brooks Flyer S for my wife's Lotus road bike that I'm getting her worked up to riding again. We're like you, in the "AC" phase, she used to ride that bike a good bit "BC" [before children] but hasn't been on it since she got pregnant with our first daughter... Hmmm... that's 28 years ago!

I was fortunate to find a Brooks Team Professional on the Gulfport, MS CL and picked it up for $70. My younger daughter and her husband went and inspected and snagged it for me. I'll take the pretty nice but rather pedestrian Selle that I have on my own "BC" road bike, a Schwinn Super Le Tour 12.2, off of it and put on this beauty:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=314800

BTW, I rode that great bike - Panasonic-built - for a long time with a child seat on the back of it. Got some pics around here somewhere that I'm sure we'll have some chuckles over some day when our spawn spawns LOL...

On cities, Ben Stein on mine: http://spectator.org/archives/2013/0...ina-on-my-mind

PalmettoUpstate 05-04-13 08:49 PM

Cartridge bottom bracket for vintage raleighs etc.?
 
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Earlier in this thread someone pointed the forum to some parts - specifically a rear rack with an integral fold up stand - that is carried by DUTCH BIKE BITS.

Those folks have got a lot of useful - and well-priced stuff.

One thing I'm keenly interested is their Sunrace BBT 08.

I'm not sure if this is a stash of NOS stuff because I couldn't find the BBT 08 in Sunrace's current BB offerings; maybe someone has some insight on that; but what I really want to know is whether one of the four versions of the BBT 08 is a "drop in" solution for replacing ths cup and ball OEM stuff that came from Raleigh.

http://www.dutchbikebits.com/index.p...product_id=205

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=314804

wahoonc 05-05-13 05:19 AM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 15588874)
Earlier in this thread someone pointed the forum to some parts - specifically a rear rack with an integral fold up stand - that is carried by DUTCH BIKE BITS.

Those folks have got a lot of useful - and well-priced stuff.

One thing I'm keenly interested is their Sunrace BBT 08.

I'm not sure if this is a stash of NOS stuff because I couldn't find the BBT 08 in Sunrace's current BB offerings; maybe someone has some insight on that; but what I really want to know is whether one of the four versions of the BBT 08 is a "drop in" solution for replacing ths cup and ball OEM stuff that came from Raleigh.

http://www.dutchbikebits.com/index.p...product_id=205

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=314804

Shoot David an email and ask. I have found that most of the major manufacturers make stuff that isn't on their websites, as well as stuff that is on their websites they don't actually make. :rolleyes: Shimano is notorious for this. I found a dyno/rollerbrake hub on the US Shimano site, tried to order one, Shimano USA says it doesn't exist in their data base,...then WTH is it doing on your website? Turns out it was OEM for the Japanese market only, not available aftermarket OR in the US. Ended up contacting WorkCycles in NL and they reccomended and shipped me a hub that worked for my needs. Awesome customer service from Richard at WorkCycles. :thumb:

I have ordered from Dutch Bike Bits a couple of times and have always be pleased with the product and the service.

Aaron :)

noglider 05-05-13 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by PalmettoUpstate (Post 15588874)
Earlier in this thread someone pointed the forum to some parts - specifically a rear rack with an integral fold up stand - that is carried by DUTCH BIKE BITS.

Damn you! Now I'm going to spend days on that fantastic site. I might even spend money.

noglider 05-05-13 07:01 AM

OK, I'm still on that site. Many have asked about the large sprockets. The site has them for cheap.

http://www.dutchbikebits.com/index.p...product_id=191

wahoonc 05-05-13 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 15589612)
Damn you! Now I'm going to spend days on that fantastic site. I might even spend money.

Maybe we should do a bulk buy and save on shipping.... :p

Aaron :)

noglider 05-05-13 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 15589761)
Maybe we should do a bulk buy and save on shipping.... :p

Aaron :)

I'd like that. I filled my cart up with $25 of stuff, but then the $25 shipping charge made me stop before paying.

Folks, please browse the site and tell me what you'd like to add to my order. I'll place the order and ship your stuff to you.

nlerner 05-05-13 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 15589725)
OK, I'm still on that site. Many have asked about the large sprockets. The site has them for cheap.

http://www.dutchbikebits.com/index.p...product_id=191

That is cheap, but given that you can get large tooth count Shimano Nexus cogs (which are dished) for about $7.50 shipped, I don't feel compelled to go Dutch.

wahoonc 05-05-13 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 15589817)
I'd like that. I filled my cart up with $25 of stuff, but then the $25 shipping charge made me stop before paying.

Folks, please browse the site and tell me what you'd like to add to my order. I'll place the order and ship your stuff to you.

My average is about $150 worth of stuff and $50 shipping :rolleyes: Apparently the shipping goes by weight but there is a minimum, by playing with my orders I have gotten the shipping to go down while the dollar value goes up.

Aaron :)

PalmettoUpstate 05-05-13 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by wahoonc (Post 15589575)
Shoot David an email and ask. I have found that most of the major manufacturers make stuff that isn't on their websites, as well as stuff that is on their websites they don't actually make. :rolleyes: Shimano is notorious for this. I found a dyno/rollerbrake hub on the US Shimano site, tried to order one, Shimano USA says it doesn't exist in their data base,...then WTH is it doing on your website? Turns out it was OEM for the Japanese market only, not available aftermarket OR in the US. Ended up contacting WorkCycles in NL and they reccomended and shipped me a hub that worked for my needs. Awesome customer service from Richard at WorkCycles. :thumb:

I have ordered from Dutch Bike Bits a couple of times and have always be pleased with the product and the service.

Aaron :)

Done; thanks.

Last year when I first immersed myself in this addiction I followed a link from Velouria's blog to Workcycles and drooled...

I seem to remember that there is someone in the Pacific NW doing something similar but not at the same level seemingly. [and relying primarily on the robust Surlys IIRC.]


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