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Velo Vol 07-12-20 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 21583417)
why don't you like it, lack of a flugelhorn or similar horn?

I have my reasons.

rjones28 07-12-20 12:52 PM

Be careful out there.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...da60e638a7.jpg

Bah Humbug 07-12-20 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 21583439)
I'm all for voting Bah Humbug out of the club. :D

He warned us...

Yeah weird, it's almost like I have a head full of demons I keep trying to escape.

Next week is going to be a recovery week though; this last one kilt knackered me.

ls01 07-12-20 02:05 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21583361)
You people must get a lot of flat tyres.

yes, we actually ride our bikes

WhyFi 07-12-20 02:10 PM

I was veeery tempted to smack some other people's kids upside the head.

Family and I were in a Sur la Table (kitchen wares) - after being closed for months during the pandemic, they finally opened back up only to put up a "store closing" sign yesterday. That bummed out my wife, as they're one of her favorite stores in the area, so we made a point of walking over today.

In walks a group of privileged kids, all boys, in that 12-13 year old range - it's a relatively well-to-do part of town, and there's always a bunch of these unruly little ****s around. They collectively stop to look at some Swedish painted stoneware that's conveniently near the door. I overhear one of them say, "I'll give you 15 dollars," and I noticed a couple of them with their phones out, recording. The fat one, surprise, surprise, grabs dish and "trips," sending it smashing in to the ground. All but the fat kid dash out of the door, while the fat kid puts on a bull**** it-was-an-accident face. With the store closing and the clearance sale going, the lady working there was in IDGAF mood and was just like, "yeah, whatever," and sends him on his way. :notamused:

ls01 07-12-20 02:14 PM

So, the thing here is I have to use levers to put the tire on. So I pinched the tubes with the lever, one flat was from a spoke hole. I just finished patching them all plus 4 more.
Could it be due to thier being 23 mm tires?
I put the Michelins on no problem, no flats I just didn't care for the dead ride they gave.
I also tried a wire bead ultra deport I have due to an ordering error. Also No bueno. Can't remember when I've been this frustrated.
Also had a flat on my recovery ride this morning. Had to use my only surviving backup tube to get back to the car.

WhyFi 07-12-20 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 21583570)
So, the thing here is I have to use levers to put the tire on. So I pinched the tubes with the lever, one flat was from a spoke hole. I just finished patching them all plus 4 more.
Could it be due to thier being 23 mm tires?
I put the Michelins on no problem, no flats I just didn't care for the dead ride they gave.
I also tried a wire bead ultra deport I have due to an ordering error. Also No bueno. Can't remember when I've been this frustrated.
Also had a flat on my recovery ride this morning. Had to use my only surviving backup tube to get back to the car.

If you're not used to tubeless ready rims, you need to make sure that the beads of the tire are all the way in to that center depression that runs around the rim bed. Do that and you should have plenty of room to get the last bit on without having to resort to a lever. Oh, and it helps to end at the valve as that'll give you a little bit more slack than if you don't.

ls01 07-12-20 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21583333)
I have way more than that.

But, ls01, just use the adhesive tape like Stan's, and as wide as the whole rim bed. It doesn't matter if tubeless-compatible or not; that's the best way to avoid the strip moving over.

Here's what I see. There is a narrow trough in the center of the rim bed. Thats for the bead to go into to give some room for the bead to go over the bead of the rim. But the first tire bead is already in there , so no room for the second sidewall. Without that extra force the bead isn't big enough to go around the outside of the rim. I get about 10 inches I have to use levers on, and its a regular *****. This is also why the rim strip is moving. The tire beads get under it ,and push it over.
if the tape is thicker, no way is that going to work.

LesterOfPuppets 07-12-20 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 21583585)
Here's what I see. There is a narrow trough in the center of the rim bed. Thats for the bead to go into to give some room for the bead to go over the bead of the rim. But the first tire bead is already in there , so no room for the second sidewall. Without that extra force the bead isn't big enough to go around the outside of the rim. I get about 10 inches I have to use levers on, and its a regular *****. This is also why the rim strip is moving. The tire beads get under it ,and push it over.
if the tape is thicker, no way is that going to work.

Tubeless tape is thinner than most rim strips. Even the two layers recommended for road pressures is thinner. And less likely to move on you. Clean rims with acetone or alcohol before taping

rjones28 07-12-20 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 21583563)
yes, we actually ride our bikes

wut

DougRNS 07-12-20 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21583455)
I have my reasons.

Be more specific.

MoAlpha 07-12-20 03:31 PM

Gin & tonics 3 nights in a row! I’m just hydrating, but I think long-suffering spouse is enjoying hers.

#drytilfri

Bah Humbug 07-12-20 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 21583585)
Here's what I see. There is a narrow trough in the center of the rim bed. Thats for the bead to go into to give some room for the bead to go over the bead of the rim. But the first tire bead is already in there , so no room for the second sidewall. Without that extra force the bead isn't big enough to go around the outside of the rim. I get about 10 inches I have to use levers on, and its a regular *****. This is also why the rim strip is moving. The tire beads get under it ,and push it over.
if the tape is thicker, no way is that going to work.

The adhesive tape is thinner, yes, but it sounds like there's something off in your technique - you shouldn't have trouble getting both sidewalls into the trough during installation. I manage to do it with latex tubes and not pinch them, and I'm a ham-fisted idiot.

abshipp 07-12-20 03:49 PM

Just put some unwanted bar-height swivel chairs out on the curb with a big ol' "FREE" sign.

Last time I did something like this it was picked up within an hour. I'm more rural now but all the condos in the complex I live in are built exactly the same so hopefully they find a home quickly.

People love free stuff, right?

WhyFi 07-12-20 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by abshipp (Post 21583683)
Just put some unwanted bar-height swivel chairs out on the curb with a big ol' "FREE" sign.

Last time I did something like this it was picked up within an hour. I'm more rural now but all the condos in the complex I live in are built exactly the same so hopefully they find a home quickly.

People love free stuff, right?

If you would have put "SANITIZED" on the sign, they'd be gone by now. :p

Velo Vol 07-12-20 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 21583623)
Be more specific.

For one thing, it sounds like it was recorded on this:


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...2d0c24693b.jpg

abshipp 07-12-20 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21583693)
If you would have put "SANITIZED" on the sign, they'd be gone by now. :p

I guess people don't care, I just checked and they're already gone :D

ls01 07-12-20 04:26 PM

Ok, I ordered some schwalbe 25mm tape. I patched 16 tubes total. A few had multiple injuries.
Without rim strips or a tube, I can get the tire to go on. Its not easy but I can do it without levers, using my thumbs. I might try a bit of baby powder to lube things next time.
For now I'm going back to the Reynolds wheels on Contador.
I have blisters on both thumbs from all this tire melarchy

indyfabz 07-12-20 04:31 PM

Another stage 2 lantern fly nymph meets the bottom of my sandal.

Happy.

ls01 07-12-20 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21583455)
I have my reasons.

You and reason parted way long long ago

abshipp 07-12-20 04:44 PM

Time to terrorize some cats

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0ce5770d0c.jpg

datlas 07-12-20 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 21583733)
Ok, I ordered some schwalbe 25mm tape. I patched 16 tubes total. A few had multiple injuries.
Without rim strips or a tube, I can get the tire to go on. Its not easy but I can do it without levers, using my thumbs. I might try a bit of baby powder to lube things next time.
For now I'm going back to the Reynolds wheels on Contador.
I have blisters on both thumbs from all this tire melarchy


Velo Vol 07-12-20 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 21583746)
You and reason parted way long long ago

It was him, not me.

DougRNS 07-12-20 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by ls01 (Post 21583733)
Ok, I ordered some schwalbe 25mm tape. I patched 16 tubes total. A few had multiple injuries.
Without rim strips or a tube, I can get the tire to go on. Its not easy but I can do it without levers, using my thumbs. I might try a bit of baby powder to lube things next time.
For now I'm going back to the Reynolds wheels on Contador.
I have blisters on both thumbs from all this tire melarchy

Could be worse...
#pre1977

datlas 07-12-20 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21583776)


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 21583787)
Could be worse...
https://youtu.be/SWY1iuPAkyM
#pre1977

#GreatDougsThinkAlike


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