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Originally Posted by gster
(Post 20920700)
Good.
Whenever I tell my wife that I've bought another bike, I tell her, the devil made me do it. |
Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 20920460)
I experimented some time back (and just disassembled that hub, which is why I thought of it) with an AW hub with a threaded driver, a 6 1/4” axle, and a 5-speed freewheel, mostly to see if what I’ve read on the Internets can actually be done. Yup, plenty of axle to fit in 120mm dropouts with room for the freewheel. Now, I don’t necessarily need a 15- or 30- or 45-gear bike a la Sheldon Brown, but, I suppose my point is, why stop at 2 cogs?!
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Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 20919820)
thx
https://www.kijiji.ca/v-view-details...dId=1421651966 |
Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20920721)
The way I figure it, I'd have a better chance of success with only two, but who knows? I guess I'd have lots of problems to deal with and that's what is appealing to me. Most of my projects last me a week or less. Here I'd have to modify a derailleur to work with a 1/8" chain, route a cable, do some cold setting to center the wheel and set a chain line, decide on cogs and come up with some sort of roadsterish method of shifting. How about a TT mounted quadrant? It might be a better project than the light weight roadster project I never got around to.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5858cc5b49.jpg https://www.hoopriderparts.com/produ...leur%20-%20nos I imagine most derailleurs could be set to limit their travel over 2 or 3 cogs. |
I wasn't able to stop for a photo since I was heading back to work from a meeting downtown, but I happened upon a Raleigh Tourist secured to a city bike loop. The machine was in really nice shape. The hub was facing down, so I couldn't spot the date of manufacture. That is the second functioning three-speed that I've seen in the wild here. The last one was a few weeks ago; an older fella stopped by a coffee shop as I was entering the bakery, and he got off a very fetching Raleigh Lenton or Clubman, by the look of it and the colour of the frame (it resembled similar bicycles posted here over the years). I rushed through my purchase in the bakery and came out to get a closer look, but he had gone. Maybe he was an old scorcher. I didn't expect to see a rare 1950s Raleigh Lenton or Clubman kind of bicycle here. It was that green metallic colour, like this:
http://www.oldbike.eu/wordpress/wp-c..._Lenton_04.jpg |
Originally Posted by Ged117
(Post 20921610)
I wasn't able to stop for a photo since I was heading back to work from a meeting downtown, but I happened upon a Raleigh Tourist secured to a city bike loop. The machine was in really nice shape. The hub was facing down, so I couldn't spot the date of manufacture. That is the second functioning three-speed that I've seen in the wild here. The last one was a few weeks ago; an older fella stopped by a coffee shop as I was entering the bakery, and he got off a very fetching Raleigh Lenton or Clubman, by the look of it and the colour of the frame (it resembled similar bicycles posted here over the years). I rushed through my purchase in the bakery and came out to get a closer look, but he had gone. Maybe he was an old scorcher. I didn't expect to see a rare 1950s Raleigh Lenton or Clubman kind of bicycle here. It was that green metallic colour, like this:
http://www.oldbike.eu/wordpress/wp-c..._Lenton_04.jpg They were guaranteed FOREVER, and if maintained, have proven themselves. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3602716014.jpg A modern Raleigh has a one year guarantee..... |
Originally Posted by Salubrious
(Post 20918838)
I've seen that size on older British clubman cycles. It appears to be the same rim diameter as the Schwinn "26 x 1 3/8" tire (which is not the size seen on most British 3 speeds). You can get it at Harris Cyclery.
I put a set of 27" x 1 1/2" (37-630) tires that I had in the garage. They fit very well.... |
Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20920721)
The way I figure it, I'd have a better chance of success with only two, but who knows? I guess I'd have lots of problems to deal with and that's what is appealing to me. Most of my projects last me a week or less. Here I'd have to modify a derailleur to work with a 1/8" chain, route a cable, do some cold setting to center the wheel and set a chain line, decide on cogs and come up with some sort of roadsterish method of shifting. How about a TT mounted quadrant? It might be a better project than the light weight roadster project I never got around to.
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Wheel sizes
This photo shows the difference. A standard British 26" rim in front and the EA 2/ 28" x 1 1/4" in back. https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...58a963b8e8.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0c98697bc8.jpg I had a pair of NOS Kenda tires that fit nicely. |
I see boat!
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
(Post 20922903)
I see boat!
1954 Mystery Bike. I've made some minor changes https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1884fcbaf9.jpg Leather saddle New NOS tires (Kenda) 19T cog on hub (will probably add a 20T and new chain) Repacked front hub bearings re routed brake cable re-positioned trigger I'm now convinced that this is a British frame with Canadian parts added to finish off. The red/burgandy and cream combo is very Canadian. The Made in Canada sticker probably really means Assembled in Canada to meet trade tariffs etc with a percentage of Canadian built parts added to qualify. A nice bike but really not a bike for me to ride. |
That’s an awesome machine! Right in there with the golden years of British club riding. Why is it not to be? Fit, style?
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Originally Posted by 3speedslow
(Post 20923503)
That’s an awesome machine! Right in there with the golden years of British club riding. Why is it not to be? Fit, style?
and I can't ride with drop bars. I could, of course, swap out the bars but I'm hesitant to alter the nature/originality of this bike. On the other hand at 64 years old (the bike) who knows what's been altered over the years. |
Originally Posted by gster
(Post 20923579)
It's a 21 1/2 " frame which is a little small for me
and I can't ride with drop bars. I could, of course, swap out the bars but I'm hesitant to alter the nature/originality of this bike. On the other hand at 64 years old (the bike) who knows what's been altered over the years. I like the spot for the shifter. I was thinking the same for my four-speed sturmey shifter on my Peugeot, a homage to Raleigh Clubmans. I found a '53 FW hub which is close to what they came with. I don't think I could pay the costs for an FC close-ratio hub. Though it was tempting...UK Ebay has many tempting items. |
Originally Posted by Ged117
(Post 20923629)
I really like the paint. I think you're right about the Canadianess of the colour scheme - 1960s Pontiac Acadians (Chevy II or Nova) came in a similar two-tone colour I think, an example of which was owned by my grandfather.
I like the spot for the shifter. I was thinking the same for my four-speed sturmey shifter on my Peugeot, a homage to Raleigh Clubmans. I found a '53 FW hub which is close to what they came with. I don't think I could pay the costs for an FC close-ratio hub. Though it was tempting...UK Ebay has many tempting items. Britain exported so many goods after the war, cars, motorcycles, bicycles etc that collectors there want the stuff back! A British motorbike worth worth $5000 here in North America is worth double that over there.... |
Originally Posted by gster
(Post 20923716)
I've seen a few other 3 speed racers with the trigger mounted there.
Britain exported so many goods after the war, cars, motorcycles, bicycles etc that collectors there want the stuff back! A British motorbike worth worth $5000 here in North America is worth double that over there.... ....my Indian had the conventional S/A 3 speed. Both of our cycles were imported by the Indian Motorcycle dealer in Toledo, Ohio...we bought them new, in the crate. Julius in Ohio |
Originally Posted by julius rensch
(Post 20923769)
gster knows alot about these English 3 speeds....wondering, have you ever run across a Sturmey Archer 4 speed ? ....my friend had a 1953 Indian Scout so equiped...the additional speed was labeled "B" just below Low.(#1)
....my Indian had the conventional S/A 3 speed. Both of our cycles were imported by the Indian Motorcycle dealer in Toledo, Ohio...we bought them new, in the crate. Julius in Ohio |
Originally Posted by paulb_in_bkln
(Post 20922825)
Was the idea of the lightweight roadster to use a 531 or similar frame? That would probably have a derailleur hanger, at least, and probably a mounting point for a shift lever. I had no difficulty narrowing the rear triangle on the Peugeot mixte for the SA hub. Just used a carpentry clamp to squeeze it down little by little over a few weeks. I'm not sure the alignment is perfect but it wouldn't be hard to correct (if I was that much of a perfectionist, which at least with this bike, I'm not). The special antirotation washers for the wider axle slots would be nice to have but don't seem to be a necessity.
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The nice thing about using an early 70s SuperCourse for such a conversion is that they don't have a derailleur hanger and are spaced at 120mm in the rear triangle, so a 3-speed hub with a 6 1/4" axle will fit without serious modification. Running cable stops and pulley wheels can be a bit fiddly, but quite do-able. Last weekend I had my '73 SuperCourse equipped with a 5-speed rear hub out for a 30 miler.
https://live.staticflickr.com/979/41...9ea84d96_c.jpg |
Anyone know a source for Raleigh rubber pedal blocks? I have a '56 Hercules that wants new ones...https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...726b3f3f02.jpg
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Originally Posted by eatontkd
(Post 20924112)
Anyone know a source for Raleigh rubber pedal blocks? I have a '56 Hercules that wants new ones...
Those look a little odd...I thought Raleigh pedals were square section in the 50's? |
Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 20924121)
Those look a little odd...I thought Raleigh pedals were square section in the 50's?
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Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 20924081)
The nice thing about using an early 70s SuperCourse for such a conversion is that they don't have a derailleur hanger and are spaced at 120mm in the rear triangle, so a 3-speed hub with a 6 1/4" axle will fit without serious modification. Running cable stops and pulley wheels can be a bit fiddly, but quite do-able. Last weekend I had my '73 SuperCourse equipped with a 5-speed rear hub out for a 30 miler.
https://live.staticflickr.com/979/41...9ea84d96_c.jpg |
1947 Schwinn New World 3-speed - we're finally starting to get some better weather here after a lot of rain.
https://thecabe.com/forum/attachment...b2-jpg.995635/ |
Originally Posted by eatontkd
(Post 20924152)
I think they may have been square, at one time!
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