Yeah, one of the large gas stations around here is Casey's General Store and they are actually the 5th largest Pizza chain in the US too. Petrol Pizza! Casey's added a fresh salad or sandwich area and its identical to Subway's process. Same deal with Kum&Go with is also huge around here.
Its a big difference from gas stations in the Chicagoland area where I grew up which had a bagged burrito you could warm up or a hot dog that had been on the rollers for so long it looked like beef jerky.

:roflmao2:In college I worked at a movie theater. At the end of the night, if the hot dogs still looked semi-passable, they were put in the freezer and put back on the rollers the next day.

Also great, and likely far more healthy than the extreme diet proposed in the OP.

When Covid hit last year I started biking to work 3-4 times a week(20 mi round trip). I also dry fast 20 hrs/day when I do this. 4000 mi for me this year. My weight went from 129'ish-->130'ish. I think I gained leg muscle. They look bigger to me. Good fortune to all who are trying to trend to their optimal weight. If you want to delve into the controversy about biking fasted, no need to look any farther than:
https://www.bikeforums.net/training-...ting-safe.html

:roflmao2:

if i want to determine if my diet is healthy, I'll look at my poop. crappy to analyze the stool, but if you're "out put" isn't normal, your doctor will have some crap to tell ya.

Hate to follow that last post with a moderator's note, but I deleted a couple of posts that were about the OP and other bikeforums members. Generally speaking, this is not allowed, particularly if you are insulting them.

The amateur moderators on this site cause more problems than anyone. Just scroll on by.

Moved to Training and Nutrition.

I'm no math genius, but that's a steady 2 pounds a week, I'd say that's working well!

Did you all go pro?

K.I.S.S. sorta haiku....
Eat FOOD
Not too much
Mostly plants
Of course, how one defines FOOD is key. For me food = minimally processed things that grows from, walks on or swims around our planet.

I'm just coming on here because I keep hearing the echoing of "WHERE ARE THE MOD's"

I have too. That's my plan. And in the process I'm getting a shiny new toy. Seems like a win.

:)

What is "fat challenged"? Fat but like "vertically challenged"?

Every person is different. What works for one, doesn't work for all. What it really boils down to is a level of calorie restriction in some way shape or form.

If one can do it, weight loss obviously requires some sort of calorie restriction. That's not really the issue for many people. The issue is food addiction, which is a totally ordinary addiction. It's one of the most difficult addictions to deal with, worse than even cigarettes. which is more difficult than heroin. I know people who've fought it their whole lives and lost every battle. I have great sympathy for them. Weight loss is easy for me, easy for most of us or we wouldn't be here.

How to break the addiction for good would be a good topic, the exact method of CO/CI not so much unless it bore upon the basic issue.

I'm currently doing intermittent fasting, 16:8. But, its quite hard and I always fall between 14:12 (12 hours window eating). Do you think its okay to maintain 14:12.
Please take note that I'm not eliminating any foods, just minimizing taking them.

I found skipping breakfast to be useless and fasting to be useless as well. Actually, the opposite of useless. Eating breakfast (or a brunch at work) meant I had enough energy and had digested my food such that I could work out in the afternoon and then eat dinner and maybe a snack of a few hundred calories a few hours before bed.

I started losing weight when I started eating more (often). As in I would often skip lunch and be famished at dinner time. Then I'd overeat at dinner and the cycle of not really losing weight was ready. I did stay at a stable (albeit slightly too high) weight for years though. So trying to lose weight was difficult.

With some changes in our daily routine and the wife staying at home all day every day forced me to eat lunch. I'd force myself to eat something even when I really did not have an apetite. That in turn would suppress my apetite at dinner so the small something at lunch lead to only small something at dinner at well. Smaller portions, no seconds etc. It seems that caused a net calorie loss which has been lowering my weight slowly but surely for the last ten months or so.

It's nice because I can eat whatever I want. But I want to eat is small portions of stuff some would consider healthy. Heavier foods like steaks and burgers have to a large extent lost their luster for me. Sometimes they're nice but they really are a rare treat. And even then I prefer them in a michelin star setting with multiple other main courses (I can't afford that stuff myself but it's nice having a boss who likes taking the workforce out to eat once a year)

There is no such thing as bad food. Dollar weight, you simply need to be in a caloric deficit, that is all, and that is the only way excluding liposuction. To maintain muscle mass, you need protein. From there fats or carbs is personal preference when it comes to far loss. For cycling, most can do about an hour before really needing fuel during the ride.

GCN recently did a video with Ollie and Connor doing a 140km ride. Connor are zero and only drank water during the ride. They monitored glucose levels during the ride and even did 5 minute efforts on 4 hills during the ride. He said he didn't really feel the BONK until the very end.

That's obviously completely wrong.

I get the intent of the statement, but it's just wrong. Bad Food would be anything highly processed that provides calories and little else beyond maybe an unneeded insulin response.



It was Hank & Connor and Connor reckoned that he went as long as he did because of his diet and carryover ability to push through he learned while a professional cyclist.


IMHO getting rid of as much processed stuff as possible is the first step, and the second is being portion aware. E.G. 100 Grams of pistachios is 576 calories. Pour out 100g and see how much that is in a small bowl. Maybe 50g is enough to satisfy you?

A small percentage of those who are overweight have metabolic health - normal A1C, good HDL levels, no insulin resistance.

https://www.narinsedc.com/blog/the-g...dbad-food-myth

The only "good" and "bad" foods are what fit your fitness goals or if it was prepared well or poorly. The food itself is not good or bad. To perpetuate this myth also contributes to a possible eating disorder called orthorexia. And pistachios are disgusting anyway. I refuse to even buy mixed nuts with them in it.

You might convince yourself of something you made up, but expecting other people to go long with it is folly.

Yeah that article (can four paragraphs by a nutritionist intern be considered a peer-reviewable article?) doesn't even remotely dig into processed versus unprocessed food. Sounds more like the intern just learned some new stuff and wanted to make a blog post.

Trust me you do NOT want gallstones whilst riding a bike or doing any sort of bending/twisting. I been through it there will be really bad bodily fluids coming out. My gallbladder had to be surgically removed because of this.

No, they won't work. For long term lower body fat % you need to change your diet. And that's hard. I wanted to lose 1-2kg compared to last year, which was already pretty low for an amateur cyclists, and it was tough. For some weeks I went hungry multiple times throughout the day, until my body got used to it. In order to keep it low I still sometimes do, though a lot less than during the loss phase. I also watch out more what I eat and that takes some effort. Key also is not having candies in the house. Period. I have a pretty good mental resilience, but without hesitation if there is chocolate in the house I eat it. No chance. Don't rely on "procedures".

Unless of course this was an odd plug for that clinic...