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markk900 05-28-23 12:22 PM

While not strictly an English 3-speed the hub is 100% from Ol’ Blighty…. Had a lovely ride in its latest incarnation but needed to adjust saddle and bars a bit. Amazing what small adjustments can do for comfort.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...dcbe227a3.jpeg
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nlerner 05-28-23 03:49 PM


Originally Posted by noglider (Post 22904681)
You do now.

Sounds like trouble with a capital T.

MeadMan2 05-28-23 03:50 PM


Originally Posted by Salubrious (Post 22898526)
I spotted this fine machine Saturday evening at dinner. It appears to be a pre-war Raleigh- note the shifter and pulley, both pre-war bits. The Lauterwasser bars look like the real thing. Pay attention to the stem, which has no quill bolt but instead is held in place by the collar bolt of the headset (which also appears pre-war). I didn't check the hub for dates. If this is cobbled together from bits, it was done with an eye towards the arcane. The bike in the background uses a classy means to keep one's skirt out of the spokes- black lace.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f988b7c754.jpg

I see my Armstrong resto-mod behind the black lace.

Nokton 05-28-23 05:12 PM

Here's one I just, more or less, finished. It's a 1970s Malaysian-built Raleigh Sports that I converted into a Path Racer style bike. The wheels came off a Nottingham-built bike that got a set of aluminium wheels, but the rest of the parts are original except for the pedals, handlebar grips, saddle, shifter, tires and tubes. Fun bike.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0d3d08e9d7.jpg

thumpism 05-28-23 06:39 PM

Lovely old Ludo from Belgium for $60 in RI. Somebody PLEASE buy this.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...01086308988896

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...xA&oe=6477F5A2

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...iw&oe=64792B53

thumpism 05-28-23 06:49 PM

$107 FOR THE PAIR.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...85391068238350

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...6A&oe=647919AD

thumpism 05-28-23 06:52 PM

$30 in NY.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...14896160052263

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...CQ&oe=6479D8DD

thumpism 05-28-23 07:06 PM

'60s Raleigh for $40 in MD.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...34385132684683

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...OQ&oe=64791BAF

thumpism 05-28-23 07:09 PM

Interesting "custom" Raleigh Tourist in MA.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...89734464028264

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...aA&oe=64794F09

clubman 05-28-23 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 22905132)


In a New York second. Fab.

SirMike1983 06-01-23 08:36 AM

1950 Schwinn Superior three speed out for a ride yesterday. We're getting a bit of summer weather here, with 90+ degrees in the afternoon. But it had been a chilly spring previously.

https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...531_180901.jpg

thumpism 06-02-23 05:08 PM

Quaint, but it ain't cheap.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...38635329481974

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...UA&oe=6480246A

thumpism 06-02-23 05:13 PM

His 'n' hers for a C-note in PA.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...28317417909043

https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...cQ&oe=647EA7E2

browngw 06-04-23 09:35 AM

My mission, should I decide to accept it, is to make these two bikes rideable and presentable. A couple in Ayr ON. found my name after taking the bike to a local shop that didn't want to work on them. Seems they knew someone who had my contact information. Still a mystery. The bikes were put out for garbage after sitting in a leaky garage for many years. A lot of the parts are badly rusted but still functional including the dynohubs. I have scrubbed the mud and bird doo off and started a regimen of penetrating oil. Much of the time spent with the owners was lowering their expectations as these bikes are pretty rough and no amount of buffing is going to help this pair! The bikes were sold new at McPhails in Waterloo ON. Both have B72 saddles, the step through looks better but is dry with minor cracking. The diamond frame saddle is more worn but in better condition.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...de5935ddf4.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cc35025a86.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...d5cc0f9d7d.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...856a28f47a.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...82a2aa38b9.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7666dd02d6.jpg

1989Pre 06-04-23 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 22912146)
My mission, should I decide to accept it, is to make these two bikes rideable and presentable.

They look good already! Let us know how you are getting along with the renewal.

browngw 06-04-23 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 22912480)
They look good already! Let us know how you are getting along with the renewal.

The rust is much worse than the pictures show, especially the brakes and handlebars. I will keep the group apprised of my progress with them. So far they have been scrubbed with lots of soap and water and are soaking up WD40 to loosen things up. I know some folks aren't fond of WD40 for this purpose, but I still find it the best even if it takes longer to work.

1989Pre 06-05-23 04:25 AM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 22912787)
The rust is much worse than the pictures show, especially the brakes and handlebars. I will keep the group apprised of my progress with them. So far they have been scrubbed with lots of soap and water and are soaking up WD40 to loosen things up. I know some folks aren't fond of WD40 for this purpose, but I still find it the best even if it takes longer to work.

Yeah, I have an Elswick with rusty brakes. I'm planning on sending the set out to get media-blasted and perhaps chrome painted.

browngw 06-05-23 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 22912901)
Yeah, I have an Elswick with rusty brakes. I'm planning on sending the set out to get media-blasted and perhaps chrome painted.

Unless it was my own bike, I would not get it blasted and chromed but I do have a good multi-purpose solution. Sand it down and paint it with Duplicolor Steel Wheel paint. That stuff is super tough, works without primer and is a nice silvery metallic finish. I've been using it for years since refinishing the wheels on my old Triumph TR7. You can spray it in a cup and use a brush for smaller parts. Just did some CCM brake levers with it.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e79cd10e6c.jpg

1989Pre 06-06-23 04:55 AM


Originally Posted by browngw (Post 22913904)
Unless it was my own bike, I would not get it blasted and chromed but I do have a good multi-purpose solution. Sand it down and paint it with Duplicolor Steel Wheel paint.

Not sure I want to be sanding chrome at home, but your brake levers and calipers look good.

thumpism 06-08-23 04:38 PM

Most of a Turista for $140 right here in town. Would you believe I have a rear fender for one of these in my garage right now?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...53925333609614

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...pQ&oe=64881FEB

Ol Danl 06-10-23 04:27 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1e9e0b9d1a.jpg
Here's the scruffy Huffeigh that followed me home a couple of years ago. I cobbled it together with some parts I had, and I had to buy some, of course. Haven't ridden it that much, and have a couple of questions about whether the hub is working okay. Recently rode it on a quiet road and was able to hear some faint clicking from the hub while pedaling in 2nd and 3rd gears. About 6 clicks per pedal rotation in 2nd, and about 8 per pedal rotation in 3rd. Not noticeable in 1st. Normal? Also, since I had a 3 speed growing up, I believe I remember that bike had a bit of slop in the pedal when going from coasting to pedaling, and this bike does the same -- probably more noticeable since I replaced the rear 18t cog with a 23t. Is this normal? Only thing I have done to the hub (dated 12/59) is clean and regrease bearings on both sides, and I replaced grease and balls in the ball ring. And I have added oil to the hub. So is this hub working as it should, or should it be gone through?

bikamper 06-10-23 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ol Danl (Post 22919454)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1e9e0b9d1a.jpg
Here's the scruffy Huffeigh that followed me home a couple of years ago. I cobbled it together with some parts I had, and I had to buy some, of course. Haven't ridden it that much, and have a couple of questions about whether the hub is working okay. Recently rode it on a quiet road and was able to hear some faint clicking from the hub while pedaling in 2nd and 3rd gears. About 6 clicks per pedal rotation in 2nd, and about 8 per pedal rotation in 3rd. Not noticeable in 1st. Normal? Also, since I had a 3 speed growing up, I believe I remember that bike had a bit of slop in the pedal when going from coasting to pedaling, and this bike does the same -- probably more noticeable since I replaced the rear 18t cog with a 23t. Is this normal? Only thing I have done to the hub (dated 12/59) is clean and regrease bearings on both sides, and I replaced grease and balls in the ball ring. And I have added oil to the hub. So is this hub working as it should, or should it be gone through?

It should click in all three gears, with a different tempo in each gear. The slop from coasting to pedaling sounds like it may be a stuck pawl or broken pawl spring. Going through it wouldn't hurt.

Ol Danl 06-11-23 02:43 PM

Thanks for your response. I'm thinking I should probably buy replacements for all 4 pawl springs before I go into it. Hopefully wouldn't need any other parts.

gster 06-11-23 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Ol Danl (Post 22919454)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1e9e0b9d1a.jpg
Here's the scruffy Huffeigh that followed me home a couple of years ago. I cobbled it together with some parts I had, and I had to buy some, of course. Haven't ridden it that much, and have a couple of questions about whether the hub is working okay. Recently rode it on a quiet road and was able to hear some faint clicking from the hub while pedaling in 2nd and 3rd gears. About 6 clicks per pedal rotation in 2nd, and about 8 per pedal rotation in 3rd. Not noticeable in 1st. Normal? Also, since I had a 3 speed growing up, I believe I remember that bike had a bit of slop in the pedal when going from coasting to pedaling, and this bike does the same -- probably more noticeable since I replaced the rear 18t cog with a 23t. Is this normal? Only thing I have done to the hub (dated 12/59) is clean and regrease bearings on both sides, and I replaced grease and balls in the ball ring. And I have added oil to the hub. So is this hub working as it should, or should it be gone through?

I think the "slop" you refer to is due to the larger cog. I notice this with my Superbe that has a 22 or 23 cog.

Ol Danl 06-12-23 08:08 AM

So, maybe I should try putting the 18t back on it, just to check?

thumpism 06-15-23 05:49 PM

Rod brakes for a C-note in CT.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...00711983860242

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...pA&oe=649055F8

thumpism 06-15-23 06:07 PM

$40 in NJ and might be from the original owner.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...24760401907944

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...Vw&oe=649033B8

capnjonny 06-16-23 01:28 PM

Here is a 1971 Schwinn Racer I just overhauled and cleaned up.

Thw paint took a lot of touching up and it's no show stopper but with a new clear coat and some shiny bliing , not too bad.
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...b6e039ba92.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3f8cf4e7d7.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...5af6507943.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0cf64848c6.jpg

gna 06-18-23 01:17 AM

Creme Delta Cruisers were on sale:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8966a93c36.jpg
Only a matter of time till they get dirty, but looks sharp for now.

canalligators 06-19-23 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by Ol Danl (Post 22920301)
Thanks for your response. I'm thinking I should probably buy replacements for all 4 pawl springs before I go into it. Hopefully wouldn't need any other parts.

Check replacement springs, compare sping tension to originals. I once bought aftermarket springs that had much stronger tension. So much so that it didn’t shift well. I got them for the same reason: old ones were ok but I had it open, why not? I disliked the new operation enough that I put the old ones back in.


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