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ericy 04-14-20 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 21416960)
A poor night's sleep, a moment of inattention and a tablesaw. What could possibly go wrong?
It looks like we're gonna save the finger minus the tendon that allows it to flex above the second knuckle. They tell me I'll be released from the hospital on Wed. Thence begins 4-6 weekly dr. visits in covid land with an immune system compromised by antibiotics. Is there anything I can do for the immune system under that regime?

#channelingtrainsnorter

Yikes.

Too late for you now, but I have seen interesting discussion of a safety device for a table saw called "SawStop". Here they demonstrate with a hot dog:


The hot dog is barely nicked in the process as the blade retracted just as it touched the hot dog. It essentially destroys the blade if you get your finger in there, but that's better than a trip to the hospital.

WhyFi 04-14-20 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 21416960)
A poor night's sleep, a moment of inattention and a tablesaw. What could possibly go wrong?
It looks like we're gonna save the finger minus the tendon that allows it to flex above the second knuckle. They tell me I'll be released from the hospital on Wed. Thence begins 4-6 weekly dr. visits in covid land with an immune system compromised by antibiotics. Is there anything I can do for the immune system under that regime?

#channelingtrainsnorter

Oof. Heal up.

Should I ever get a table saw, I think that I will certainly invest in one with skin sensing tech, be it a SawStop or a future competitor.

Velo Vol 04-14-20 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21417318)
Oh, please.

If you've got an explanation why the percentage of Americans with allergies/autoimmune disease is growing, I'd like to hear what it is.

MoAlpha 04-14-20 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21417352)
If you've got an explanation why the percentage of Americans with allergies/autoimmune disease is growing, I'd like to hear what it is.

I suspect it has more to do with less outdoor play and sterile indoor environments in chlldhood than antibiotics, but none of this has anything to do with poor seedsbelize 's short term concerns!

WhyFi 04-14-20 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by ericy (Post 21417339)
Yikes.

Too late for you now, but I have seen interesting discussion of a safety device for a table saw called "SawStop". Here they demonstrate with a hot dog:

The hot dog is barely nicked in the process as the blade retracted just as it touched the hot dog. It essentially destroys the blade if you get your finger in there, but that's better than a trip to the hospital.

Bosch also has a working method, one that doesn't destroy the blade and can be easily and cheaply reset by the user, but SawStop has a legal department that's about as aggressive as that of Specialized. Not sure if the Bosch units are available elsewhere in the world, but they're certainly not on the market in the US.

rjones28 04-14-20 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21417352)
If you've got an explanation why the percentage of Americans with allergies/autoimmune disease is growing, I'd like to hear what it is.

We don't drink from the garden hose anymore?

MoAlpha 04-14-20 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 21417369)
We don't drink from the garden hose anymore?

Drinking water hose FTW.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...25af89be7.jpeg

Trsnrtr 04-14-20 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 21417369)
We don't drink from the garden hose anymore?

We donít?

Velo Vol 04-14-20 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21417360)
I suspect it has more to do with less outdoor play and sterile indoor environments in chlldhood than antibiotics, but none of this has anything to do with poor seedsbelize 's short term concerns!

I'm not saying people at risk of serious infection shouldn't take antibiotics, but I have come to believe that antibiotics are given too often. And that there are a lot of unanswered questions about the interaction between digestive microorganisms and the immune system. In fact, mounting evidence that they are linked.

MoAlpha 04-14-20 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21417396)
I'm not saying people at risk of serious infection shouldn't take antibiotics, but I have come to believe that antibiotics are given too often. And that there are a lot of unanswered questions about the interaction between digestive microorganisms and the immune system.

Agree completely.

LAJ 04-14-20 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 21417298)

Good heavens.

rjones28 04-14-20 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 21417383)
We donít?

I don't have a garden hose anymore.

Velo Vol 04-14-20 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 21417369)
We don't drink from the garden hose anymore?

Agree to disagree.

BillyD 04-14-20 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by seedsbelize (Post 21416960)
A poor night's sleep, a moment of inattention and a tablesaw. What could possibly go wrong?
It looks like we're gonna save the finger minus the tendon that allows it to flex above the second knuckle. They tell me I'll be released from the hospital on Wed. Thence begins 4-6 weekly dr. visits in covid land with an immune system compromised by antibiotics. Is there anything I can do for the immune system under that regime?

#channelingtrainsnorter

Ouch! Been there, done that, but apparently not so severe, didn't require hospitalization.

I would begin daily probiotics to replace the good bacteria destroyed by the antibiotics.

BillyD 04-14-20 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Pirkaus (Post 21417069)
Heal quickly :hug:
You have a long way to go to be anywhere near Trainsnorter level, there are safer goals to aspire to.

:lol:

Originally Posted by Pirkaus (Post 21417074)
Nutrition question for you doctors, is carrot cake an acceptable breakfast :innocent:

Absolutely.


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 21417123)
The age group the country is shutting down to protect, act like fools. Old and stubborn bastards.

This.

BillyD 04-14-20 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by ericy (Post 21417339)
Yikes.

Too late for you now, but I have seen interesting discussion of a safety device for a table saw called "SawStop". Here they demonstrate with a hot dog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOReKxH5NlA

The hot dog is barely nicked in the process as the blade retracted just as it touched the hot dog. It essentially destroys the blade if you get your finger in there, but that's better than a trip to the hospital.

I love that saw, man. :love:

BillyD 04-14-20 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Trsnrtr (Post 21417383)
We donít?

I know I don't.

LesterOfPuppets 04-14-20 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 21417287)
I need to get rjones28, Sr. set up with a trainer, once his medical ordeal has ended. He misses riding his bike.

Are you gonna fly to Belgium with a GoPro first?

Velo Vol 04-14-20 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 21417544)
I would begin daily probiotics to replace the good bacteria destroyed by the antibiotics.

That's crazy talk.

rjones28 04-14-20 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 21417596)
Are you gonna fly to Belgium with a GoPro first?

Maybe.

Or just hit a local climb.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...65f488f86.jpeg

Bah Humbug 04-14-20 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21417131)
Ugh. Which Island?

Isle of Springs, a little flyspeck so small it barely has a Wikipedia page. It itself shouldn't be opened this year - the only access is via boat, or exiting via Medevac/ Lifestar/ whatever. And while most cottages don't have the widespread family that ours does, the people do come in from all over the country and aren't going to want to socially-distance. It will be outright irresponsible if the island is opened, but it's run by the people who want to vacation there.

One of my relatives even said on the family group text "I could be happy quarantining on the Island for a 14 days!". Which... no. I wanted to throw my phone across the room when I saw that.

Velo Vol 04-14-20 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 21417099)
Time to head into the telemedicine center.

Have you had any humorous moments thus far? Something going on in the background, or whatever?

Bah Humbug 04-14-20 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 21417364)
Bosch also has a working method, one that doesn't destroy the blade and can be easily and cheaply reset by the user, but SawStop has a legal department that's about as aggressive as that of Specialized. Not sure if the Bosch units are available elsewhere in the world, but they're certainly not on the market in the US.

A technology that serves the common health that much seems like a textbook case of something that should be forcibly licensed at reasonable terms to all comers.

I'll see myself and my commie pinko interest in the health over profits out the door.

LesterOfPuppets 04-14-20 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 21417618)

Is that an iJen pic???

MoAlpha 04-14-20 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21417779)
Isle of Springs, a little flyspeck so small it barely has a Wikipedia page. It itself shouldn't be opened this year - the only access is via boat, or exiting via Medevac/ Lifestar/ whatever. And while most cottages don't have the widespread family that ours does, the people do come in from all over the country and aren't going to want to socially-distance. It will be outright irresponsible if the island is opened, but it's run by the people who want to vacation there.

One of my relatives even said on the family group text "I could be happy quarantining on the Island for a 14 days!". Which... no. I wanted to throw my phone across the room when I saw that.

Very nice. Must be beautiful there, but you're right. Not much thought in that plan. I never had the feeling the locals had much love for out-of-staters once they put their wallets away and now they're more justified in being unfriendly.

I used to know the coast from Rockland to Mt Desert fairly well, loved it, and would love to go back. Wife and I were all set to help a friend deliver his boat from Annapolis to Portland over Memorial Day, but that's obviously off. We also have a standing invite to go up and do a classic boat regatta or two in July or August on my main Bermuda ride, but we probably won't make it. :(

Bah Humbug 04-14-20 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by MoAlpha (Post 21417813)
Very nice. Must be beautiful there, but you're right. Not much thought in that plan. I never had the feeling the locals had much love for out-of-staters once they put their wallets away and now they're more justified in being unfriendly.

I used to know the coast from Rockland to Mt Desert fairly well, loved it, and would love to go back. Wife and I were all set to help a friend deliver his boat from Annapolis to Portland over Memorial Day, but that's obviously off. We also have a standing invite to go up and do a classic boat regatta or two in July or August on my main Bermuda ride, but we probably won't make it. :(

It's beautiful, but even before this it was a frustrating thing. Only recently did they get internet available there - at all. It's unreliable, and the old-timers don't understand why that's a non-starter for some of the younger folks. Then, it's so remote that even from here it's essentially a two-day trip, with a flight and an obnoxious car ride, and then either catching the ferry or having someone available to fetch you with the boat. Certain members of my family (whose worldview extends no further than New England) can't understand why I'm willing to fly to Asia or Europe or Hawai'i but balk at similar travel time to get to a cottage where I'm stuck in close quarters with a bunch of family for extended periods.

Will you maybe be able to go to the regatta next year?

Bah Humbug 04-14-20 11:50 AM

And wow that Canyon thread took a left turn at Albuquerque.

Velo Vol 04-14-20 11:54 AM

In the spirit of the wounded seeds,

55F :rolleyes:

WhyFi 04-14-20 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21417791)
A technology that serves the common health that much seems like a textbook case of something that should be forcibly licensed at reasonable terms to all comers.

I'll see myself and my commie pinko interest in the health over profits out the door.

As I'm sure you can imagine, it's a big, divisive stink in woodworking circles. Prior to releasing their own product, SawStop had evidently been very aggressive in perusing a government mandate while trying to license to manufacturers at costs that those manufacturers didn't think was fair.

Meanwhile, Bosch is a huge company with a lot of IP of their own and they used that IP to bring an arguably superior product to market. Then SawStop lawyered-up and got the courts to see things their way and Bosch was out.

MoAlpha 04-14-20 11:58 AM


Originally Posted by Bah Humbug (Post 21417849)
It's beautiful, but even before this it was a frustrating thing. Only recently did they get internet available there - at all. It's unreliable, and the old-timers don't understand why that's a non-starter for some of the younger folks. Then, it's so remote that even from here it's essentially a two-day trip, with a flight and an obnoxious car ride, and then either catching the ferry or having someone available to fetch you with the boat. Certain members of my family (whose worldview extends no further than New England) can't understand why I'm willing to fly to Asia or Europe or Hawai'i but balk at similar travel time to get to a cottage where I'm stuck in close quarters with a bunch of family for extended periods.

Will you maybe be able to go to the regatta next year?

Next year, with any luck, will be a Bermuda race year, which punches a 2 week hole in my summer during what's generally a busy time at work and takes cruising time away from long-suffering spouse. So, probably not unless I retire or something.

Oh, and my daughter's getting married in Iceland over Memorial Day.


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