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Velo Vol 08-20-21 01:08 PM

wut


Bah Humbug 08-20-21 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192603)
Last ride in LA is done. Travel day tomorrow. Anyone notice who is atop the leaderboard? :innocent:

Enjoy it while it lastsÖ :D

datlas 08-20-21 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22192622)
Sorry we didn't get a chance to ride together. Did you ever get to Latigo?

And if you're responsible for the awesome weather we had this week you can come back any time.

Saved Latigo for next time. Did not want to ride PCH yet again, twice was enough.

With daughter here I am sure we will be back.

LesterOfPuppets 08-20-21 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22192579)
What is the water temperature of Tempe Fake Lake?

Bathwater.

Lake Temperature 93.0 F
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6b032ce532.png

big john 08-20-21 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192741)
Saved Latigo for next time. Did not want to ride PCH yet again, twice was enough.

With daughter here I am sure we will be back.

If you let me pick you up I can drive us up the road to a safe start location. Lots of great roads in them thar hills.

Velo Vol 08-20-21 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 22192763)
Bathwater.

Lake Temperature 93.0 F

Nice.

datlas 08-20-21 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22192767)
If you let me pick you up I can drive us up the road to a safe start location. Lots of great roads in them thar hills.

Sounds good. Gives me a reason to come back.

I did ride up Mandeville today and set a PR. But itís only 5 miles long. Too short to qualify as an epic climb.

Velo Vol 08-20-21 02:52 PM

I got passed by a backhoe loader earlier today. :o

It almost made me wish for an eBike.

datlas 08-20-21 03:02 PM

So it’s been much discussed how inaccurate Strava Power is. My impression is that if riding solo and fairly calm winds, it is reasonably accurate (within 10%) for me. On today’s 5 mile climb, done solo, I purposefully tried to ride consistently right around my FTP. I checked the Strava power for the whole climb, as well as some of the shorter segments of the climb, and I do believe it was within 10%. Maybe even closer.

Should I make a thread about how you don’t need a fancy power meter?

big john 08-20-21 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192788)
Sounds good. Gives me a reason to come back.

I did ride up Mandeville today and set a PR. But itís only 5 miles long. Too short to qualify as an epic climb.

It's really not a far drive to Baldy from where you were. That's a 25 mile climb unless you continue to the ski lift area, then it's a 29 mile climb. I'm ok with skipping the ski lift.
Of course the stars will have to align.:)

Velo Vol 08-20-21 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192802)
Should I make a thread about how you donít need a fancy power meter?

When I upload an activity, the average power number Strava gives seems pretty weak.

IT MUST BE WRONG.

datlas 08-20-21 03:21 PM

I did four club/group rides with LaGrange club here in LA. Their rides are open (membership not needed). Compared to my club, two major differences stand out:

First, the number of riders is HUGE. Sunday’s ride had about 70 riders. The other rides had around 20-30 riders. My club typically has 6-15 cyclists on a ride. If more than 15 it’s almost a given that they will split into two groups.

Second, these men and women really know how to ride safely. Pretty much everyone was steady and stable and held their lines. I did not see a single wobbly/squirrelly rider. In my club, despite our best efforts to correct or weed out bad behavior, there is almost always a few riders who are either inexperienced and/or oblivious which, to be honest, makes me a little nervous riding near them. It was a non-issue here. I must find out their secret.

datlas 08-20-21 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22192805)
It's really not a far drive to Baldy from where you were. That's a 25 mile climb unless you continue to the ski lift area, then it's a 29 mile climb. I'm ok with skipping the ski lift.
Of course the stars will have to align.:)

Iím in!

datlas 08-20-21 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22192809)
When I upload an activity, the average power number Strava gives seems pretty weak.

IT MUST BE WRONG.

I am simply going by my n of 1. I believe my current FTP is roughly 190w. Strava power had me at 204w for 23 minutes. I think thatís a reasonable estimate.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a8cbd3c9a4.png

datlas 08-20-21 03:30 PM

BTW I weigh 65 Kg, so my FTP is 2.9 w/Kg which I think is typical for an “enthusiast” cyclist but even a mediocre Cat 4/5 would eat me for lunch.

indyfabz 08-20-21 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22192794)
I got passed by a backhoe loader earlier today. :o

It almost made me wish for an eBike.

I got dropped by an Amish buggy loaded with folks going to meeting one Sunday morning. In my defense, I was fully loaded and going up hill first thing in the morning.

genejockey 08-20-21 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192802)
So itís been much discussed how inaccurate Strava Power is. My impression is that if riding solo and fairly calm winds, it is reasonably accurate (within 10%) for me. On todayís 5 mile climb, done solo, I purposefully tried to ride consistently right around my FTP. I checked the Strava power for the whole climb, as well as some of the shorter segments of the climb, and I do believe it was within 10%. Maybe even closer.

Should I make a thread about how you donít need a fancy power meter?

I used to look at the Estimated Power and think, "It's so spiky! It can't possibly be real." Then I got a Smart Trainer with built in power meter and damned if the power trace isn't all spiky. The Scientist in my says I should get a power meter so I can see what the power is measured more directly than passing through the whole drivetrain, the wheel, the tire/roller interface, and whatever internals in the trainer before power is measured. But that jut brings back the question of how to deal with 8 bikes.

datlas 08-20-21 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22192846)
I used to look at the Estimated Power and think, "It's so spiky! It can't possibly be real." Then I got a Smart Trainer with built in power meter and damned if the power trace isn't all spiky. The Scientist in my says I should get a power meter so I can see what the power is measured more directly than passing through the whole drivetrain, the wheel, the tire/roller interface, and whatever internals in the trainer before power is measured. But that jut brings back the question of how to deal with 8 bikes.

Pedal based PM?

:innocent:

Mojo31 08-20-21 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22192268)

It starts Jan 1 and ends Dec 31.

Mojo31 08-20-21 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by ksryder (Post 22192450)
All of this and more: Given the part of the country I live in and the general attitude of people around here, they are highly unlikely to cancel the event. I, however, am being far more cautious so I will not attend. Insurance would've allowed me to recoup a least some of the entry fee.

I mean I'm privileged that I can afford to lose $70 but still... I'm not sure what I was thinking when I declined the option in the first place.

Cancellation coverage usually only kicks in if the event is cancelled, not if a participant decides not to attend.

genejockey 08-20-21 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192875)
Pedal based PM?

:innocent:

Swap pedals every time I swap bikes? Hell, it's enough of a chore swapping saddlebag, Varia, rear light, head unit, and pump! Now you want me to swap pedals?

No thanks. Too much like work.

Mojo31 08-20-21 04:17 PM

Driving into Telluride today, I was surprised by the number of roadies climbing mountains. Crazy the slope and distances steadily climbed. It's more humbling than the girl passing me on the flat.

genejockey 08-20-21 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22192887)
Swap pedals every time I swap bikes? Hell, it's enough of a chore swapping saddlebag, Varia, rear light, head unit, and pump! Now you want to swap pedals?

No thanks. Too much like work.

Mrs. GeneJockey told me last week that when she was a kid, and her Dad came home from work, she'd beg him to play with her, but he'd say, "Nah. That's too much like work!"

I not only found this heartbreaking, but also it led me to wonder what he did for work, that it was so much like playing with his own children....

Velo Vol 08-20-21 04:18 PM


Originally Posted by Mojo31 (Post 22192880)
It starts Jan 1 and ends Dec 31.

See post #5199

Eric F 08-20-21 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by datlas (Post 22192823)
I did four club/group rides with LaGrange club here in LA. Their rides are open (membership not needed). Compared to my club, two major differences stand out:

First, the number of riders is HUGE. Sundayís ride had about 70 riders. The other rides had around 20-30 riders. My club typically has 6-15 cyclists on a ride. If more than 15 itís almost a given that they will split into two groups.

Second, these men and women really know how to ride safely. Pretty much everyone was steady and stable and held their lines. I did not see a single wobbly/squirrelly rider. In my club, despite our best efforts to correct or weed out bad behavior, there is almost always a few riders who are either inexperienced and/or oblivious which, to be honest, makes me a little nervous riding near them. It was a non-issue here. I must find out their secret.

70 is a good-size group, but some of the BIG groups in the So Cal area will typically be well north of 100 riders. Those rides are all FAST. Fast does a good job of filtering out the squirrels.

I've ridden with and raced against La Grange club members for years. Everyone I've come across has been good people and good riders.


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