I don't think that figure can be interpolated as the actual weight of the bike. IMO, it probably reflects the bike weight AND packaging material. I'd be surprised if it weighed more than 38 lbs.

BTW, this bike is at the top of my "Bucket List" - not that it is any better than a nice Raleigh but it is oh so much rarer!

Also, those Bluemel's fenders are not correct on the bike to the best of my knowledge. Maybe a Schwinn aficionado can enlighten us...

I'm wondering if that shipping weight is including all accessories and the shipping box/crate. The Paramount is chromoly, so the frame itself should theoretically be noticeably lighter than a similar Raleigh.

According to the flickr photo album description that I posted above, this Paramount is a restoration project. Not only does it have some different parts than stock (like the wheels) but it was repainted.

My post wasn't necessarily directed at you. (And I don't know if this particular Paramount is for sale.)

Did you do the resto?

Oh gosh, no. You don't want me to get near bikes like this! :)
I'm just simply reposting something interesting that I found on the internets. Guess I didn't make myself clear. But to make myself clear, I have no connection to this bike or the person behind it.

Because it's not really a bike thread on an internet forum until someone points out what's wrong with it! :rolleyes:

Well it's beautiful work. Problem is, from my point of view, it's a beautiful "Frankenbike"...

Seriously, I have been looking for one of these - primarily using the "secret" Google Alert method that Tom Reingold shared a few years back - and they just don't show up.
@noglider ha-ha!

I get that. I sort of figured that someone would point out what's "wrong" with this bike, since whomever this is didn't try to restore it exactly like it would be from 1951. But I'm okay with that, as to me, it's the spirit that counts and it looks good. It's a lot better than the 40's Schwinn Superior that was posted on Portland CL for a bit, where the owner put 700C wheels and a modern cotterless crankset on there. And my 1968 Raleigh Superbe has a bunch of new bits on it that wouldn't have been available back then, but still looks the part. To each their own.

That's why I run without those locknuts. You'll never catch me out with a faux pas like that. Nunh-unh.

Oh I don't mean any of that as a knock; just saying that this wouldn't be one I'd consider for the Bucket List.

Peace.

1899 Schwinn Quad - best of all - it's a 3-speed!

http://schwinncruisers.com/catalogs/...n_model_41.jpg

Yes, I believe it does include the shipping materials. The chromoly Continental I have is noticeably lighter than a Raleigh Sports. Just about everything is lighter, particularly the frame, fenders and wheelset. I would say the Paramount might be even a bit lighter than that. I was surprised how light the Continental was when I got it.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gJzn-gSPw...029_172245.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-eIDW1z9At...022_170143.jpg

Where do you find these great bikes? Oh well, a cro-mo Brit club bike was always on the top of my wish list and I haven't found one of those either. Good thing I'm on a roadster kick. Still some of them around.

@PalmettoUpstate, if you include other craigslist sites than your local one, you'll see them. I see plenty of nice 3-speeds for sale here, though they're not cheap. The high asking prices seem fair, though, especially if you'll be riding the bike and locking it up outside. It's a durable, theft-resistant bike.

A buddy of mine has an early Paramount set up as a 3-speed. It's a very cool bike:

https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8278/2...53374033_z.jpgIMG_2777.JPG

https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8138/3...a2ed7e5b_z.jpgIMG_2786.JPG

https://c6.staticflickr.com/6/5340/3...a744a537_z.jpgIMG_2787.JPG

https://c7.staticflickr.com/6/5613/2...064085d8_z.jpgParamount.jpg

I keep an eye out where old US balloon tire bikes turn up, both online and in-person. The US lightweights turn up more often where you have US ballooners from that era as well. I have seen a few on eBay, but not as many.

I think you are right that the Continental, Superior, and Paramount bikes of the 1930s- early 50s are more like an English Clubman level than a Sports. I think the New World sort of goes to the same level as the Sports.

That is a very cool bike with a very interesting headset arrangement. Do you know that headset all fits together? Looks like it's part of the lug -- must be something pressed into it, I'd guess.

I've seen those integrated headset cups on other bikes from that era, but I don't know how common it is. @rhm might know better than I.

Look at this photo on Velobase:

http://velobase.com/CompImages/Heads...CAB7B4390.jpeg

Don't be distracted by the fact that this Chater Lea headset uses a headclip rather than the usual threaded upper race. The three circles at the bottom of the photo are the frame races and the fork crown race. Each of the frame races fits snugly into a recess in the head lug, which is why the lug has that bulge. The races are not conical; the bearing surface is a circular channel that may be filled with oil, rather than grease. I suspect --I speculate-- that that is the feature that made these attractive to racers. At that time, some racers thought oiled bearings would spin faster than greased ones, which is why hubs, bottom brackets, and even headsets and pedals had oil ports.

Anybody need a new-ish men's Sports in 23"? I think he's wrong about the year.

MENS 1972 RALEIGH LTD 3 BIKE

MENS 1972 RALEIGH LTD 3 BIKE - $159 (CHESTER)

https://images.craigslist.org/00q0q_...aT_600x450.jpg

NICE EXCELLENT SHAPE

So this isn't a Raleigh 3-speed as Frank Bowden might have intended, but I came across a somewhat rough 1973 Super Course a few weeks ago for small money and decided to build it up as an English club bike using parts I had on hand. The rear wheel is a 700c Matrix rim laced to a Sturmey Archer alloy AM hub with AW internals (yeah, kind of an odd story). Front is a matching rim laced to a Normany high-flange alloy hub with S-A wing nuts. Williams crankset, Challenge 30mm Eroica tires, top tube trigger modified from an S-A downtube shifter and an old clamp, Brooks B17 and SR/Raleigh post, GB bars and Titan stem, Weinmann levers and Weinmann 750 cp brakes, Honjo fenders. I've only had it out for a short test ride as we're in the midst of a cold snap, but it felt smooth.

https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/717/30...2c11c3e9_z.jpg1973_SC_Clubman1

https://c5.staticflickr.com/1/575/31...87c72c98_z.jpg1973_SC_Clubman3

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/460/31...677e1386_z.jpg1973_SC_Clubman4

https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/579/31...6d60e23e_z.jpg1973_SC_Clubman5

https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/140/30...a4da0c19_z.jpg1973_SC_Clubman6

https://c7.staticflickr.com/1/272/30...2afffd51_z.jpg1973_SC_Clubman7

https://c8.staticflickr.com/1/306/30...c174d9fd_z.jpg1973_SC_Clubman10

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/514/31...8b1495a0_z.jpg1973_SC_Clubman9

Hercules, Not 3 Speed, But Nice
 

I think it is overpriced mainly due to the missing chaincase.
1929/1930 Hercules Popular single speed, perfect mechanical condition

I forgot to mention the headlight.

How many teeth are on the sprocket and chainring?