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JaccoW 02-11-20 10:30 AM

HollandBikeshop.com and Fietsparts.nl for most of your rod-drumbrake needs.

Looks like you need this one for the rear assembly.

And please stop with the "GOD BLESS".

gster 02-11-20 11:45 AM

Hozan Bottom Bracket Tool
A friend of mine gave me one of these..
I rarely remove the fixed cup.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a2ea0855ab.jpg
It's quite heavy duty...

gster 02-11-20 01:59 PM

Spotted in a junk shop here in Toronto that's
rarely open...
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cb8425ab48.jpg
It's fairly modern....

thumpism 02-11-20 02:03 PM

^ Yeah, Raleigh was probably well out of the 3-speed biz by the time that sign was produced.

W.L.SOON 02-11-20 03:20 PM

Hi JaccoW,thanks for sharing. The Dutch parts are not exactly the correct replacement that I want,but I will keep them in mind should I run out of options. Thank you. 👍👌

W.L.SOON,Malaysia

jackbombay 02-11-20 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 21323860)
Spotted in a junk shop here in Toronto that's
rarely open...
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...cb8425ab48.jpg
It's fairly modern....

USA?!?!?

If it said "The Raleigh" and "Nottingham" on it I'd be driving there to get it now! But I imagine you'd have already purchased it.

gster 02-11-20 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by jackbombay (Post 21324020)
USA?!?!?

If it said "The Raleigh" and "Nottingham" on it I'd be driving there to get it now! But I imagine you'd have already purchased it.

Yeah, depends on the price...
He's not been open much lately.
I've bought a few items off of him over the last 30+ years,
including this Eastman saddle for an Eastman bike.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fd9bcda2f7.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1c27fc6160.jpg

thumpism 02-12-20 11:29 AM

Okay, I visited the co-op last night and had the opportunity to look in one of their storage containers right after a big donation from a warehouse nearby. Saw these rod brakes and knew I had to post it here. This bike is really buried but I was able to see that the front wheel is not correct (700C QR) and front pads are missing but everything else looks okay. Men's 22" frame and a cheap mattress saddle instead of a Brooks. I can follow up if anyone is interested.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...907976724e.jpg

gster 02-12-20 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 21325055)
Okay, I visited the co-op last night and had the opportunity to look in one of their storage containers right after a big donation from a warehouse nearby. Saw these rod brakes and knew I had to post it here. This bike is really buried but I was able to see that the front wheel is not correct (700C QR) and front pads are missing but everything else looks okay. Men's 22" frame and a cheap mattress saddle instead of a Brooks. I can follow up if anyone is interested.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...907976724e.jpg

It's like King Tut's Tomb.....

thumpism 02-12-20 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by gster (Post 21325254)
It's like King Tut's Tomb.....

I wish. Carter's famous quote when Carnarvon asked what he saw through the first opening in the tomb was, "Wonderful things!" This place, not so much. Even with light there was only so much I could see and most was pretty mundane. I keep hoping I'll find something on my list and when I show up I always tell them I'm looking for treasures.

arty dave 02-13-20 04:21 PM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7d786e60ea.jpgW.L.SOON - Maybe this will help you with your cam lever - when I first got my DL-1 I had to modify a new cam arm. I needed to rotate the square hole through 45 degrees to match the orientation of the missing original cam lever. I had a friend fill the hole with weld, then drilled it out and filed it square in the new orientation. The threaded part of the rod you can see in the last photo has also been welded on, as that part had broken off before I bought the bike.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3d694dfc05.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...517b013291.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...98dba9aefd.jpg

gster 02-15-20 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by arty dave (Post 21326848)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7d786e60ea.jpgW.L.SOON - Maybe this will help you with your cam lever - when I first got my DL-1 I had to modify a new cam arm. I needed to rotate the square hole through 45 degrees to match the orientation of the missing original cam lever. I had a friend fill the hole with weld, then drilled it out and filed it square in the new orientation. The threaded part of the rod you can see in the last photo has also been welded on, as that part had broken off before I bought the bike.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3d694dfc05.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...517b013291.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...98dba9aefd.jpg

Well done.

thumpism 02-15-20 07:49 AM

^ I'd bet it uses 700C wheels, frequently known as "28 inch" elsewhere.

W.L.SOON 02-15-20 08:49 AM

Hi Arty Dave.
 
Hello Arty Dave. Thanks for sharing. Yes,that has been what I'm considering as well. Would you by any chance remember what model is your new cam lever that you used to modify? Is it a HSB 408? Any possibilty you know of/have taken photo of the back of the cam lever? Are the numbers 3612463 back there?

Thank you again. Do you have any photos of the rear brake linkage lower bell-crank area? These are virtually non-existent for sale anywhere.......
Thanks.

Sincerely,
W.L.SOON,Malaysia

Senrab62 02-15-20 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by mtb_addict (Post 21328563)
i found this advertisement in Taoboa.
since i am in e. Asia now, i have tempted to order one. Only $150 US.!!!
Looks like nicely lugged frame and classic 28 635 wheels.

looks like only available in Asia.


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...27387259fa.png

I'm certain it's hi-ten, but for $150 I'd buy one for sure! Any other specs?

thumpism 02-16-20 07:00 AM

These things look brand new.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...9212736535380/

https://scontent.fric1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...6f&oe=5F0199DB

FBOATSB 02-16-20 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by brianhamp (Post 21330008)
I'm not sure. I have never been to one before. I don't want to buy new, I would like to see Vintage bikes.
Thanks for the link. I will try to find out more about it...
Brian


QUOTE=FBOATSB;21329975]Is this the one?
https://www.bicycleshowtoronto.com/

[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I think the one you want was in July last year, might not be scheduled yet. It was sponsored by: Bike Pirates | A DIY bike shop
Someone in Toronto will surely chime in here. I'm obviously unqualified by distance:o
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8cce180e11.png

gster 02-16-20 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by brianhamp (Post 21330060)
Sorry, I think the one you want was in July last year, might not be scheduled yet. It was sponsored by: Bike Pirates | A DIY bike shop
Someone in Toronto will surely chime in here. I'm obviously unqualified by distance:o
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8cce180e11.png

That is exactly what I;m looking for... Thank you so much....[/QUOTE]
Yes, that was last year's show and I'm the organizer with Bike Pirates as the host.
No firm plans for this year but generally held on the last Sunday in July.
As soon as I have some details I will post here.

interceptor 02-16-20 05:22 PM

I think I am done.....for now.....
 
I think I'm done...just added a new Kiley Headlamp.
Hmmmmmmmm...maybe a rear rack??
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bfd32e4ef5.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a62217335f.jpg

Ballenxj 02-16-20 05:30 PM

Bikepirates have apparently moved, and have not updated their website since. Bike Pirates | A DIY bike shop

arty dave 02-16-20 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by W.L.SOON (Post 21328648)
Hello Arty Dave. Thanks for sharing. Yes,that has been what I'm considering as well. Would you by any chance remember what model is your new cam lever that you used to modify? Is it a HSB 408? Any possibilty you know of/have taken photo of the back of the cam lever? Are the numbers 3612463 back there?

Thank you again. Do you have any photos of the rear brake linkage lower bell-crank area? These are virtually non-existent for sale anywhere.......
Thanks.

Sincerely,
W.L.SOON,Malaysia

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1be4f2a909.jpg

Hi W.L. I'm currently moving house, but will see what I can do, I may be able to get a photo of the rear linkage bell-crank this afternoon. I did use part hsb 408 on the front drum, but as you can see this is not the same cam arm used on the rear drum brake. It looks like HSB 220 is the part you need.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9af11abf12.jpg

W.L.SOON 02-16-20 10:34 PM

Thanks Dave!👍
 
Hi Dave,thank you for taking the trouble.
My rear hub brake has the correct arm. It is just the front one. So ok,let me get this straight:you mean that the HSB 408 is not the CORRECT fit for our front brakes? It will fit on but the angle will be incorrect,is that it? That is why you had to have it welded and redone the hole to get the correct angle?

As for the rear hub brake,I am lacking the rear lower bell-crank and the adjoining threaded rod to pull the rear brake lever. Were these parts never sold as spares/replacements,but only came with the bike back in those days?🤔

Thank you Dave. All the best!😀👍

52telecaster 02-17-20 02:07 AM

Now this isnt English and technically not a 3 speed, but starting out on an old 3 speed when I was very young makes me do stuff like this now and then.

Its an 84 chromoloy schwinn traveler with a 54 alloy aw hub. Inverted mustache bars, because thats what i had, a shimano dynamo hub and old fenders I got at my local coop. The brooks is an old spare I had and the gear ratios are 24-34-42 up front. 21 in back. Top gear of 72 inches. I used the stock brakes, derailleurs and crank, but changed the chainrings. I ride other ridiculous bikes but this is going to fun.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...755d667d0d.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...337c530deb.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...73cb37d978.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...07f4620168.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9f3814e303.jpg

hobbs1951 02-17-20 02:58 AM

World Cup Superbe.
 
Interesting thread guys, motivates me to lavish some attention on my 1966 Superbe, bought from the widow of the original owner; a lecturer at the University of Hull during Phillip Larkin's time. He rode it to the university everyday during summer months. Completely original with some paint loss but little or no rust. Green Brooks mattress saddle, green saddle bag and - rare - green Raleigh branded pump, four speed Sturmey Archer...I clicked my Sturmey Archer gear and pedalled'til I nearly burst...dynamo, huge Raleigh branded bell, period mileometer, tools, handbook and event the steering lock key. Headlamp reflector needs re-silvering and new tyres (amberwalls ?), tubes and brake blocks re needed - pedals are shot, but readily available.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e2d3350cf8.jpg

Dan Burkhart 02-17-20 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by brianhamp (Post 21329963)
Does anyone know when the big Vintage bike show is on in Toronto area? I would like to go to it this year....

Thank you

There is one in Brantford on March 29th.


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