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Originally Posted by Charmlessman
(Post 19989064)
I have zero experience working on bikes but find myself now with at least 30 days of free time until I start anew job. Should I go with the cheaper one? How hard is it to work on these bikes? I look for scratches on the handle bar bends & pedal bearing caps, axle threads Rusty chrome usually cleans up very well, if chrome is peeling that's not good. Old decals are fragile clean with care. Most old paint will come back to a point & look better. Straight wheels. Some of the things I stated here can be a buyers negotiating chip and not necessarily a reason not to buy, proper fasteners are a hassle to find replacements. All Sturmey Acrher 3 speed hubs are dated month & year 72-6 for instance, would be June/1972 I would look for pre 1975 bikes, the older they get the better they get. All the information you need to learn about the maintenance of these Raleigh's is here in this forum maybe all is in this 1st thread you posted in. Any task at hand you will find guidance with here. |
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Originally Posted by gster
(Post 19989265)
I would opt for the better of the the two as well.
The more complete and original the better. Leather seat? Pump. etc? These add value. Please post some more photos. @johnnyspaghetti , thanks, I am searching on different areas and this morning a few came up. @BigChief thanks , I am 5 6 so its not a problem for me but thank you for pointing that out, actually I think I like the ladies version better. |
Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 19989323)
Welcome! I do have one bit of important advice for you. These bikes come in 2 different frame sizes. 21" and 23". If you are a taller person, say 5'10" or more, I would limit any purchase to the taller 23" framed bikes. Even in crummy craigslist photos, it's easy to see what frame size it is by looking at the steering tube length. The difference is obvious.
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Originally Posted by Charmlessman
(Post 19989506)
Here are a few more pics of each bike.
@johnnyspaghetti , thanks, I am searching on different areas and this morning a few came up. @BigChief thanks , I am 5 6 so its not a problem for me but thank you for pointing that out, actually I think I like the ladies version better. |
Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 19988477)
I'm curious, did you ever find out more about this bike? Specifically, any idea what the BB threading is? I have my eye on one locally with a weird project in mind
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I think the hunt is over. I talked to the seller on this bike which is about an hour away from home but I believe this might be a better choice. Any advice on the saddle that it has? Should I replace it?
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That one looks very good. 1965-1967 era I'm pretty sure. I have a 69' Raleigh Superbe that came with those type of pedals. They likely replacements because pedal reflectors really didn't begin until the 70's, I could be mistaken. I don't like then as much as the rubber blocks pedals with the screw on bearing caps. As far as the seat goes it looks to be in good shape Use it if you don't like it-upgrade. May be it will be comfortable for you. A good long ride and you'll know if you want something else. The handle grips are wrong. Seems like small but I would give it 1 demerit for grips & 1 demerit for pedals. That bike looks like it will cleanup real nice. I don't know what others think about the pedals, it would be a considerable cost to replace them. Good grips are not cheap either.
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Originally Posted by Charmlessman
(Post 19990281)
I think the hunt is over. I talked to the seller on this bike which is about an hour away from home but I believe this might be a better choice. Any advice on the saddle that it has? Should I replace it?
Here's the 1968 catalog page. http://www.jaysmarine.com/1968raleighcat_us_03_lg.jpg |
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Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti
(Post 19990614)
That one looks very good. 1965-1967 era I'm pretty sure. I have a 69' Raleigh Superbe that came with those type of pedals. They likely replacements because pedal reflectors really didn't begin until the 70's, I could be mistaken. I don't like then as much as the rubber blocks pedals with the screw on bearing caps. As far as the seat goes it looks to be in good shape Use it if you don't like it-upgrade. May be it will be comfortable for you. A good long ride and you'll know if you want something else. The handle grips are wrong. Seems like small but I would give it 1 demerit for grips & 1 demerit for pedals. That bike looks like it will cleanup real nice. I don't know what others think about the pedals, it would be a considerable cost to replace them. Good grips are not cheap either.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-GQOv5jmXOI...0/IMG_3370.JPG They cost about $30.00/pair here in Canada, so I imagine $24 + US. Real rubber NOT plastic. Attachment 588806 |
1934 Raleigh Sports frame
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A while ago I bought a Sturmey Archer K Quadrant shifter. I decided I needed to build a bike around it. I just bought this 1934 Raleigh Sports frame, which will use 1960's vintage parts and new lauterwasser bars to complete a roadworthy bike. If I find 1930s vintage parts, the newer parts will get replaced, but they are difficult to source and are sometimes more expensive than the bike is worth. We'll see. Anyway, it's winter here in Minnesota and I work in the garage, which will be likely below freezing until April. I'm in no hurry. This will give me something to dream about this winter.
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Originally Posted by gster
(Post 19988476)
Fine looking machine.
I have one small note. I think the fulcrum stop should be closer to the front. It should be 2 1/4"- 2 1/2" back from the lug. I have an unmolested Superbe in the garage that I use as a guide for placements/ cable lengths etc. The chainguard is a good choice over a full case as it's much easier to service the rear hub, fix a flat etc. |
Originally Posted by gster
(Post 19991167)
I'm a big fan of these MKS pedals.
They cost about $30.00/pair here in Canada, so I imagine $24 + US. Real rubber NOT plastic. Attachment 588806 Does anyone have source for MKS 3000S (without reflectors) here in the US? I have a feeling the CPSC reflector requirement is part of why I'm seeing only the 3000R's. I have a pair of MKS rat traps on my Raleigh Grand Prix - they make good pedals. |
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Originally Posted by SirMike1983
(Post 19991296)
That measurement made me curious, so I checked a Sports that has its original cable set up. The fulcrum there is right at 2 1/2 inches back from the lug, so that must have been about where they were standard. I moved the rod brake bike's fulcrum to 2 1/2 inches this evening.
Three fingers is about right and a lot easier than a tape measure. Just like a good glass of free pour Scotch. Attachment 588814 |
Originally Posted by SirMike1983
(Post 19991305)
I've never actually been able to find these here in the US - only seen the 3000R with reflectors. I've been using a stock of unused German waffle block pedals from the 1960s I've built up, but those are starting to run out now. I think I'm down to my last set in the parts box. I have some pairs of Raleigh pedals, but the blocks tend to spin more than the German pedals, which have spikes set into the block ends.
Does anyone have source for MKS 3000S (without reflectors) here in the US? I have a feeling the CPSC reflector requirement is part of why I'm seeing only the 3000R's. I have a pair of MKS rat traps on my Raleigh Grand Prix - they make good pedals. I've been running a pair on my everyday Superbe for 4 years or so. Damn fine pedals! |
Originally Posted by Ballenxj
(Post 19988948)
What is going on with that rear hub? Can you post photos specifically of it? Looks almost like it has an engine? :foo:
Found on the interweb. |
Originally Posted by gster
(Post 19991423)
I was thinking a while back how this was measured at the factory.
Three fingers is about right and a lot easier than a tape measure. Just like a good glass of free pour Scotch. Attachment 588814 |
Originally Posted by gster
(Post 19991429)
They're not that easy to find here in Toronto.
I've been running a pair on my everyday Superbe for 4 years or so. Damn fine pedals! |
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Just delivered from the northland. $40 American. Small frame. Hub dated 64' some cable issues, all looks like a good starting point.
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Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti
(Post 19991663)
Just delivered from the northland. $40 American. Small frame. Hub dated 62' some cable issues, all looks like a good starting point.
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Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 19992045)
I like project bikes like this. Really in need of rescue, but enough original features left that it will end up looking sharp when you're finished. Very satisfying. Cable problems? That's too bad. It's always nice to just clean up and lube the originals on Sports from this era with their calipers that are dedicated for those ball end cables. Try to save the original fluted white housings if you can.
My 23" 62' has the barrel type frt. dropouts & BB oil port, this bike has blade type dropout fork no BB oiler. Frt. hubs are different the 23' axle has a keyway milled in axle. Different fender brace fasteners. Missing the nice heavy outer axle washer. I think I have one. Attachment 588857Attachment 588858 |
Originally Posted by johnnyspaghetti
(Post 19992126)
I bought this one texting only never spoke a word to the guy. My firend has a lake home 6 miles from the location picked it up for me. The basket screwed up the cable casing ends mostly the thumb trigger end. The chrome is excellent scratches are pretty much limited to the top bar. I don't have a clue about the chainguard mounting. The rubber blocks on the drive side pedal show extreme wear yet the bearing cap is scratch free.the LF pedal has very little block wear. Sheet metal parts are dent free. ~snip~
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Anybody have an extra center thru-bolt for a rear side pull Sports caliper. (2" long with slotted head?)
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yes, all these parts belong in a place. Its more like adoption.
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A nice old Rudge Sports for sale in Portland, Maine - early post-war tall frame.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-23-Vin...kAAOSws8VZ3-9t Do believe it has the deluxe stainless steel rims of that era as well. Nice bike. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/oGkAA...9t/s-l1600.jpg |
Originally Posted by SirMike1983
(Post 19996234)
A nice old Rudge Sports for sale in Portland, Maine - early post-war tall frame.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1951-23-Vin...kAAOSws8VZ3-9t Do believe it has the deluxe stainless steel rims of that era as well. Nice bike. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/oGkAA...9t/s-l1600.jpg |
Hercules...
johnnyspaghetti...
That is a nice Hercules, never saw one that color! Does the front axle also have an oil port? I have a black 61-62 SA 3spd Hercules, it also has the bottom bracket oil port and one for the front axle. Haven't ridden in a while but will bring it out on my days off. |
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Originally Posted by ko57
(Post 19996298)
johnnyspaghetti...
That is a nice Hercules, never saw one that color! Does the front axle also have an oil port? I have a black 61-62 SA 3spd Hercules, it also has the bottom bracket oil port and one for the front axle. Haven't ridden in a while but will bring it out on my days off. Attachment 589059 |
Originally Posted by wahoonc
(Post 19992585)
That pedal looks like chemical breakdown of the rubber. It could have been caused by exposure to long term UV or possibly something else like a gas can. I had one handle grip on a Huffy get all slimy and nasty because a piece of poly tarp was over it.:foo:
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Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 19996246)
This bike started off at $80 on craigslist a few weeks ago. We'll see how well the flip goes.
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Restoration projects are going slowly. There hasn't been enough bad weather to keep me inside. I stripping the paint and boy is it tough.I have strip a lot of paint in my day but that was when paint stripper was deadly stuff. Another day or two stripping and then, reassemble hubs, wash parts in spic and span powder form (this is what jewelry maker use) rinse, Oxylic acid, rinse, then I can move on to paint. I get an error message when I try to upload pics that says a security token is missing?
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