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Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20548284)
Here's a good looking late 50s 21" Sports near Beantown at a reasonable asking price. Even has a usable looking non-orginal leather saddle.
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bi...687976698.html breaking apart or rusting out. If only we manufactured products today with that ethos. |
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...edf138761a.jpg
1950 Claud Butler All British Cycle Event coming up... Bronze-welded 'All-rounder' frame, Alloy AW hub, Chater Lea cranks, Weber pedals, Reynolds stem, GB Sport alloy brakes, Bayliss Wiley front hub and bottom bracket. Total weight with fenders about 24 pounds. |
Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20548284)
Here's a good looking late 50s 21" Sports near Beantown at a reasonable asking price. Even has a usable looking non-orginal leather saddle.
https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/bi...687976698.html |
Still working on this one - many kinks to work out. It started as a quadrant shifter - the rest of the bike followed. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...828b3790a8.jpg
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Originally Posted by jon.612
(Post 20549593)
Still working on this one - many kinks to work out. It started as a quadrant shifter - the rest of the bike followed. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...828b3790a8.jpg
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Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 20549549)
I think that one might have a 4-speed hub. Note the non-drive side axle nut. The trigger is clearly marked 3-speed, however. |
Originally Posted by Salubrious
(Post 20548744)
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...edf138761a.jpg
1950 Claud Butler All British Cycle Event coming up... Bronze-welded 'All-rounder' frame, Alloy AW hub, Chater Lea cranks, Weber pedals, Reynolds stem, GB Sport alloy brakes, Bayliss Wiley front hub and bottom bracket. Total weight with fenders about 24 pounds. |
Originally Posted by jon.612
(Post 20549593)
Still working on this one - many kinks to work out. It started as a quadrant shifter - the rest of the bike followed. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...828b3790a8.jpg
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Originally Posted by nlerner
(Post 20549549)
I think that one might have a 4-speed hub. Note the non-drive side axle nut. The trigger is clearly marked 3-speed, however.
A close-up of the hub shell would clarify this. |
I recently inherited a couple old cameras from my grandfather, one of which is an early 1950s Voigtländer Perkeo II in excellent working condition. I took it out for a test run a few days ago, and felt that my ANT roadster would be a good subject:https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8870cdab35.jpg * |
Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 20551622)
I recently inherited a couple old cameras from my grandfather, one of which is an early 1950s Voigtländer Perkeo II in excellent working condition. I took it out for a test run a few days ago, and felt that my ANT roadster would be a good subject:https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8870cdab35.jpg * |
Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 20551622)
I recently inherited a couple old cameras from my grandfather, one of which is an early 1950s Voigtländer Perkeo II in excellent working condition. I took it out for a test run a few days ago, and felt that my ANT roadster would be a good subject:**Nice. :thumb: They go well together, the camera and bike that is. Looks to be 6x6 format?* |
Originally Posted by agmetal
(Post 20551622)
I recently inherited a couple old cameras from my grandfather, one of which is an early 1950s Voigtländer Perkeo II in excellent working condition. I took it out for a test run a few days ago, and felt that my ANT roadster would be a good subject:*Two questions: 1) What film did you use? 2) Did you develop and print this yourself? I have toyed with the idea of getting another film camera, but digital is just so darned easy that it is hard to justify the expense. Thanks for sharing that! . * |
Originally Posted by BigChief
(Post 20547446)
I have a chainguard and a non Raleigh 28" rear fender that would fit. I also have a roll of heavy galvanized wire that chainstays could be made from.
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Originally Posted by Velo Mule
(Post 20547235)
A dl-1 with one crank arm and missing the seat stays. Well, at least the price is right. It could be a project. Any 28" wheels in there? Fenders?
I see that you already have a DL-1 so, that frees you up to get creative. The seat stays can be fabricated. This can even be a point of creativity. Polished Aluminum perhaps? Did you grab it? Is this a project for you then? If so, keep us up to date on the plans and how things are going. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f4c2929aa1.jpg |
Originally Posted by DQRider
(Post 20551933)
Wow! That is an excellent* photograph.
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Originally Posted by clubman
(Post 20552396)
+1 I've got a similar Voigtlander in my drawer. Now I've got to get it out and start something.
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https://s22.postimg.cc/58aoi3bzl/Dmgs_VLYXo_AEDSHj.jpg
Finally replaced the Lepper Primus with a B66. Managed to get ahold of a saddlebag for a cheap price too. Annoying to go from a nicely worn in saddle to a concrete feeling one. |
I know it is not a 3 speed, but it is an english frame and you guys were such a huge help with getting me to this point especially @DQRider and @BigChief.
I thought I'd show you guys how it turned out... so far. I do think I need get a new headset. It catches a bit when the handle bars are nearly all the way to the right (drive side), but more so I cant ride it with no hands. I can do it on my 70 sport but not on this Harding. The frame is straight, and the fork dropouts are aligned so my last bet is the headset. Past that I dont know what else causes this. It's not so much that the front wheel jerks any particular direction. It's more like the whole bike falls to one side or the other. I can stay up for a short burst with a LOT of effort and it wobbles out again. Anyway, here is the thread where I talk about the journey of getting the build to where it is. Here |
Originally Posted by Buellster
(Post 20552830)
I know it is not a 3 speed, but it is an english frame and you guys were such a huge help with getting me to this point especially @DQRider and @BigChief.
I thought I'd show you guys how it turned out... so far. I do think I need get a new headset. It catches a bit when the handle bars are nearly all the way to the right (drive side), but more so I cant ride it with no hands. I can do it on my 70 sport but not on this Harding. The frame is straight, and the fork dropouts are aligned so my last bet is the headset. Past that I dont know what else causes this. It's not so much that the front wheel jerks any particular direction. It's more like the whole bike falls to one side or the other. I can stay up for a short burst with a LOT of effort and it wobbles out again. Anyway, here is the thread where I talk about the journey of getting the build to where it is. Here Two minutes of searching brought me here: Microshift Alfine 8 Thumb Shifter I used a previous version with a partially polished aluminum body on my "Unnecessary Bridgestone": https://i.imgur.com/QrREe4P.png That comes closest to the English 3-speed experience, IMHO. But whatever you choose for components, that is one sweet frameset you started out with. About the no-hands issue: Does it pull to the same side every time? Are you sure your wheels are in alignment? Otherwise it might just be down to the more sporting frame geometry. Anyway, I like where you're going with this. Please keep us posted. . |
@mtb_addict I've got a 21" I'm selling. They are out there, but you have to keep your eyes peeled.
This particular machine (Riva Sport) I found at an antique shop. Its pretty rare- its a very light weight French built frame, with fancy lugwork. But its got a Brampton hub and shifter, so it seems to qualify. The geometry is similar to a British machine, but it has odd things like an alloy front hub and alloy hubs on the pedals, even though the pedals also have rubber blocks. The frame builder apparently thought to build a bike to compete against the British machines but with a hand-built frame. Internet information is really scarce, so apparently also this was a Bad Idea. I've found no photos online of this bike, so I have to think its pretty rare. |
Originally Posted by DQRider
(Post 20552404)
Not to go off-topic here, but where are all these stray asterisks (*) coming from?
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Originally Posted by DQRider
(Post 20552945)
I read that build thread, and can sympathize with some of your travails. However, I know Microshift makes a simple Alfine 8 thumb shifter, and it is readily available if you know where to look.
Two minutes of searching brought me here: Microshift Alfine 8 Thumb Shifter I used a previous version with a partially polished aluminum body on my "Unnecessary Bridgestone": https://i.imgur.com/QrREe4P.png That comes closest to the English 3-speed experience, IMHO. But whatever you choose for components, that is one sweet frameset you started out with. About the no-hands issue: Does it pull to the same side every time? Are you sure your wheels are in alignment? Otherwise it might just be down to the more sporting frame geometry. Anyway, I like where you're going with this. Please keep us posted. . I had spotted those shifters and I was hoping to encounter someone who had used one. I've read some bad reviews about the micro shift bar end shifters when used with the alfine 8. I've got some porterur bars that I would love to put on the Harding with a bar end shifter set up, but I think they would also work just fine with the trigger shifter. I very much like the idea of getting that "three speed feel" back again. It's generally to the right, towards drive side. The wheels are both true, or at least very near. No noticable wobble. Now that you mention it I never could get my Carbolight 103 Puegeot to run no handed. Even with everything straight and true, so perhaps it is that... I'll keep you guys in the loop for sure! |
Originally Posted by mtb_addict
(Post 20552875)
About to throw in the towel and buy a modern bike instead. What is the closest modern new equivalent to English 3 speed? |
Originally Posted by mtb_addict
(Post 20552875)
How long did it take you to find your dream English 3 speed?
I'm checking FB and CL daily...not much English 3 out here it seems...when there is one, it's usually a large frame or a women frame. I want a Men 21", in decent condition. About to throw in the towel and buy a modern bike instead. What is the closest modern new equivalent to English 3 speed? Other than those two things run the Gambit from a sekai 3 speed, which is probably no ones "dream" but looks to be a good bike, and a whole plethora of schwinns with SA gear in varying condition. Just today I also found a 1960s Dunelt for $150. It would need some work but I'm sure its someone's heart throb. You could also get a three speed hub and do a wheel build and put it on a supercourse or the like. Some truly beautiful builds in this thread are not.the standard set ups. The previous posts bridgestone is a great example in my book. just dont do what I did and get a 4 speed, unless you already have a trigger haha |
Originally Posted by mtb_addict
(Post 20552875)
How long did it take you to find your dream English 3 speed?
I'm checking FB and CL daily...not much English 3 out here it seems...when there is one, it's usually a large frame or a women frame. I want a Men 21", in decent condition. About to throw in the towel and buy a modern bike instead. What is the closest modern new equivalent to English 3 speed? I see some of those stray asterisks too |
Originally Posted by DQRider
(Post 20552404)
Not to go off-topic here, but where are all these stray asterisks (*) coming from?
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Well, I went to find a nice 21" for our friend but look what turned up in my size instead. You're on your own, dude.
https://charlottesville.craigslist.o...691956935.html Vintage bike 1960 - $50 (Ruckersville) https://images.craigslist.org/00v0v_...CX_600x450.jpg bicycle type: bmx frame size: Medium make / manufacturer: Raleigh wheel size: 26 in Selling this vintage bike from 1960s. It's pretty worn out and weathered however it could surely be restored. It needs a new chain and wheels are pretty squeaky and seat is pretty worn but it's nothing that can't be fixed. Let me know if interested. |
Originally Posted by thumpism
(Post 20553329)
Well, I went to find a nice 21" for our friend but look what turned up in my size instead. You're on your own, dude.
https://charlottesville.craigslist.o...691956935.html Vintage bike 1960 - $50 (Ruckersville) https://images.craigslist.org/00v0v_...CX_600x450.jpg bicycle type: bmx frame size: Medium make / manufacturer: Raleigh wheel size: 26 in Selling this vintage bike from 1960s. It's pretty worn out and weathered however it could surely be restored. It needs a new chain and wheels are pretty squeaky and seat is pretty worn but it's nothing that can't be fixed. Let me know if interested. https://maine.craigslist.org/bik/d/c...691823679.html |
Originally Posted by Cute Boy Horse
(Post 20552767)
https://s22.postimg.cc/58aoi3bzl/Dmgs_VLYXo_AEDSHj.jpg
Finally replaced the Lepper Primus with a B66. Managed to get ahold of a saddlebag for a cheap price too. Annoying to go from a nicely worn in saddle to a concrete feeling one. |
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