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bicievino 08-12-21 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by m@tty (Post 22181132)
While scouring the web today found these.

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/356910/

Looks pretty cool. Wish they were race legal.

taras0000 08-15-21 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 21966847)
But that's exactly what Felt did with the TK1 Endurance and TK1 Sprint (or whatever they were called a few years ago. The Sprint model used a heavier layup.

So, maybe they are saving money by not creating separate Endurance and Spring molds for each given size. Maybe they are using the same molds and adding more carbon when the sprint frames are being produced. (I don't know if that's how it would go down. Not familiar with carbon fiber manufacturing.).

That's exactly how you would stiffen a frame using the same mold. The internal bladders just compress the the carbon lay up against the inside of a rigid mold. How you alter the lay up itself would make no difference in the methodology of how the frame is produced. Once you have your shape/mold, and general lay up figured out, you could then customize the level of compliance and stiffness just by playing around with different lay up schedules.

taras0000 08-15-21 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by m@tty (Post 22181536)
And looks like I have found the new frame!
https://worxbikes.com/product/track-wx-r-frameset/

Dead link, here is the correct one - https://www.wx-r.com/

m@tty 08-16-21 04:16 AM


Originally Posted by taras0000 (Post 22186031)
Dead link, here is the correct one - https://www.wx-r.com/

the link works fine and is for a different frame

https://worxbikes.com/track-wx-r/

taras0000 08-17-21 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by m@tty (Post 22186146)
the link works fine and is for a different frame

https://worxbikes.com/track-wx-r/

Weird. It wasn't working for me before. It's an interesting frame. Price seems reasonable as well, especially considering that they are drawing their own tubes. Maybe they saw the hole left behind by Tiemeyer and decided that a well engineered frame that's not just an open offering from the factories still has a place amongst all the carbon that's the rage on the track.

bicievino 08-17-21 03:17 PM

Yeah, the geometry on the long reach version looks great!

carpediemracing 08-18-21 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by m@tty (Post 22186146)
the link works fine and is for a different frame

https://worxbikes.com/track-wx-r/


wow. If I didn't have my frame already this would be the one for me to get. long version.

Morelock 08-18-21 10:14 AM

Here is the
to the record attempts taking place today (Lambie's 3:59 attempt, multiple others)

Morelock 08-18-21 02:12 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...e21914c6cc.png
Pretty flippin impressive

m@tty 08-25-21 05:35 PM

Another option for endurance bars

topflightpro 11-17-21 09:38 AM

Looks like Look has a "new" mid-price track frame. https://www.lookcycle.com/be-en/895-vitesse

It seems to be an evolution of the R96, but at a lower price point.

m@tty 11-28-21 01:33 AM

Mora Verdi appeared to have hoods bolted to a set of Worx bars at the UCI Champions league. Unless these are new bars from Worx.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ac25184f7.jpeg



better picture here!

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7a154c0da.jpeg

m@tty 01-13-22 06:35 PM

New bars from Velo Flyer

Hellyer Track Bar 2 ? VELO FLYER BICYCLES

Agro Sprint Bar ? VELO FLYER BICYCLES

theblackbullet 02-05-22 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by m@tty (Post 22322254)
Mora Verdi appeared to have hoods bolted to a set of Worx bars at the UCI Champions league. Unless these are new bars from Worx.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ac25184f7.jpeg


https://www.instagram.com/p/CV-HamKM...dium=copy_link

better picture here!

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7a154c0da.jpeg

these look very comfortable. I'd really like to try some of these hoods that have been coming out lately.

Morelock 02-07-22 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by theblackbullet (Post 22400285)
these look very comfortable. I'd really like to try some of these hoods that have been coming out lately.

Cane creek sells dummy hoods.

Some dude is trying to hawk the sketchiest 3d printed ones ever on FB marketplace lately... with a staggering misunderstanding of basic safety.

RobertPaulson 01-05-23 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by m@tty (Post 22373067)

just got a pair of the short reach narrow agro sprint bars - very nice, already it makes a small difference to my f200 time but now I need a longer stem!

carpediemracing 01-09-23 10:33 PM


Originally Posted by RobertPaulson (Post 22758650)
just got a pair of the short reach narrow agro sprint bars - very nice, already it makes a small difference to my f200 time but now I need a longer stem!

Can you post a picture?

Also, in a different line of thought, do you think if a narrow stem is used, there is a chance of putting aero bars on it?

I'm interested in both the sprint bar but also a drop base bar.

Dfarlow 01-10-23 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by RobertPaulson (Post 22758650)
just got a pair of the short reach narrow agro sprint bars - very nice, already it makes a small difference to my f200 time but now I need a longer stem!

I currently have the Look Aero Track bars (370w / 83r / 117d) and am looking to go more narrow as well. This is what I'm considering so would like to get more feedback on your Agro bars.

1. VeloFlyer Agro Sprint Bars (310w / 85r / 90d) - on backorder til next Apr/May
2. VeloBike Sprint Bars (300w / 85r / 115d)
3. WX-R Carbon Sprint (300w / 85r / 120d)
4. Carrmato - DontStopPedaling (330w / 83r / 117d)

The Agro's drop would likely require the greatest bike adjustment, likely requiring removal of 20-25mm in spacers. But I really like how they are flared out seemingly contributing to a more natural/comfortable hand position, IMO.

RobertPaulson 01-10-23 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by carpediemracing (Post 22763858)
Can you post a picture?

Also, in a different line of thought, do you think if a narrow stem is used, there is a chance of putting aero bars on it?

I'm interested in both the sprint bar but also a drop base bar.

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...84f4dcbc4a.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...83cb8549fe.jpg

RobertPaulson 01-10-23 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by carpediemracing (Post 22763858)
Can you post a picture?

Also, in a different line of thought, do you think if a narrow stem is used, there is a chance of putting aero bars on it?

I'm interested in both the sprint bar but also a drop base bar.

just get a second hand base bar, idk what supply is like in America but plenty around pretty cheap in the UK (seems like the TT scene has collapsed) - as long as its inside your body I can't see there is much advantage going narrower with the base bar but would think you just give away watts out of the gate with the loss of leverage (and probably the lower height with something like this)

RobertPaulson 01-10-23 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Dfarlow (Post 22764167)
I currently have the Look Aero Track bars (370w / 83r / 117d) and am looking to go more narrow as well. This is what I'm considering so would like to get more feedback on your Agro bars.

1. VeloFlyer Agro Sprint Bars (310w / 85r / 90d) - on backorder til next Apr/May
2. VeloBike Sprint Bars (300w / 85r / 115d)
3. WX-R Carbon Sprint (300w / 85r / 120d)
4. Carrmato - DontStopPedaling (330w / 83r / 117d)

The Agro's drop would likely require the greatest bike adjustment, likely requiring removal of 20-25mm in spacers. But I really like how they are flared out seemingly contributing to a more natural/comfortable hand position, IMO.

These are the 310width and 85r. I did think about the 115r but the flat section of the drops is the same length on the 85 and the 115 (I would have waited for the 115r if the flat on the drops was longer but as it stood I just took what was there in stock). I was running dolan 30cms but felt the extra drop was costing me power so tried these out as an awesome christmas present from my wife! I really like them, bottom of the drops is wider than the dolans and the full aero 'thumbs up' section is narrower so better all around as far as I can make out (yes, its pretty marginal stuff - maybe 1rpm/0.5kph I think on a f200 running 128", not really run enough efforts on it yet to be sure thats real. need to stretch out the cockpit now).

I'm at an event on sat and one of the guys who is supposed to be coming runs the wx-r's, I'll try and get a photo of them side by side if he is (and I remember).

The 115r 310w are in stock now if you are not already at maximum uci reach?

carpediemracing 01-10-23 04:35 PM


Originally Posted by RobertPaulson (Post 22764193)
just get a second hand base bar, idk what supply is like in America but plenty around pretty cheap in the UK (seems like the TT scene has collapsed) - as long as its inside your body I can't see there is much advantage going narrower with the base bar but would think you just give away watts out of the gate with the loss of leverage (and probably the lower height with something like this)

I haven't tried a standing start with a flatter base bar but if I wanted to replicate the height of my drops (or the drop of my drops) I'd need a much lower base bar. Hence the appeal of a non-TT bar that has a pretty open "drop" where it's easy to move the hands up and forward. Like that short lived 3T base bar that has rearward pointing "base bar hooks", versus forward facing ones.

Bonus would be if I could use the same "base bars" for normal mass start racing.

I was looking at the Profile Svet V or whatever their deep drop one is. The other option is to use my road stem which has 3 cm drop, and some marginally shallow drop base bar.

Honestly I have no idea how close I am to UCI limits up front. I know my saddle is close, and I also know that my preferred drops might be too low. On the road bike my drops are next to the tire. I'm not a big guy so I don't qualify for morphological exceptions but I suspect that I will be well within the limits, even if I stretch things out.

RobertPaulson 01-11-23 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by carpediemracing (Post 22764714)
I haven't tried a standing start with a flatter base bar but if I wanted to replicate the height of my drops (or the drop of my drops) I'd need a much lower base bar. Hence the appeal of a non-TT bar that has a pretty open "drop" where it's easy to move the hands up and forward. Like that short lived 3T base bar that has rearward pointing "base bar hooks", versus forward facing ones.

Bonus would be if I could use the same "base bars" for normal mass start racing.

I was looking at the Profile Svet V or whatever their deep drop one is. The other option is to use my road stem which has 3 cm drop, and some marginally shallow drop base bar.

Honestly I have no idea how close I am to UCI limits up front. I know my saddle is close, and I also know that my preferred drops might be too low. On the road bike my drops are next to the tire. I'm not a big guy so I don't qualify for morphological exceptions but I suspect that I will be well within the limits, even if I stretch things out.

I would think nearly all the custom narrow bars out there have some kind of bespoke diameter on the 'tops' that would mean clips on struggle. the worx alloy bar is far cheaper than the veloflyers and tbh very nearly the same dimension, I would suggest just get one of those and a proper base bar set-up second hand vs trying to bodge something with a 350usd bar

carpediemracing 01-11-23 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by RobertPaulson (Post 22765096)
vs trying to bodge something with a 350usd bar

Heh makes sense.

If I got them the primary function would be as a sprint bar. I'll have to check my set up and measure things out.

*edit somehow missed everything above it. Thanks for pictures, that helps. And I have a cheap/used base bar but it's flat and I've been experimenting with getting it lower with stems and such, but no real luck.

RobertPaulson 01-11-23 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by carpediemracing (Post 22765172)
Heh makes sense.

If I got them the primary function would be as a sprint bar. I'll have to check my set up and measure things out.

*edit somehow missed everything above it. Thanks for pictures, that helps. And I have a cheap/used base bar but it's flat and I've been experimenting with getting it lower with stems and such, but no real luck.

personally I find I have better power out of the gate with the base bar higher (and aero is not that much of an issue for the first 3/4 lap where I tend to transition), can you not get the poles and pads low enough to get your body horizontal and helmet inside your frame viewed from the front with the current base bar or you want to the base bar grips for starts to be lower (like the same height as sprint bar drops?)


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