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Velo Vol 02-19-22 03:06 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22414647)
Sun's out. :)

If you HTFU and were out with exposed skin, as I was during my quasi-jog, you would have found that this is 100% accurate.


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22414395)
#SunWithoutWarmth


rjones28 02-19-22 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22414709)
If you HTFU and were out with exposed skin, as I was during my quasi-jog, you would have found that this is 100% accurate.

I've been outside quite a bit (as usual). The high winds out of the West make it a bit nippy.

datlas 02-19-22 03:19 PM


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22414614)
the engine is older than the Saturn. SM*H

Indeed. And crankier, too.

Velo Vol 02-19-22 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22414717)
I've been outside quite a bit (as usual).

How much is usual?

rjones28 02-19-22 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22414727)
How much is usual?

One or two hours.

LAJ 02-19-22 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22414665)
Stupid question of the day. I plan on doing 30/30 on monday. What do you guys and gals use for a timer? My garmin has a timer but as far as I can tell, it doesn’t have a stop watch function. I was thinking about strapping my apple watch to my stem.

Also we talked about this before, but I really want to be able to complete the work out. If my FTP is 250 should I aim for 300 watts for 30 seconds, 275? I am a terrible judge at hard effort, I tend to go way to hard and then fail.

Last time you talked about this your ftp was 230. What percent did your guy give you? 130% is 325, and if your ftp is an honest 250, then that should be easily doable. By easily, it's going to be hard as hell, but it should be able to be done to completion.

Use your lap function, and this is where discipline comes into play. You start the lap, do 30 seconds, that should be 325-330, easy, rest, whatever it's supposed to be for 30 seconds, and repeat. Don't hit the lap button each time, because the workout is supposed to be for 10 minutes. (10' 30/30) If you hit the lap button every 30 seconds, you will lose count. This is a promise. It sounds easy, but there's a certain amount of brain fog, and the 30 seconds of rest/easy is not enough time to math. All you need on the screen is lap time, lap power and power. None of that smoothing ****, none of the 3 second avg power ****. Use your head and don't go crazy.

Also, make sure you don't have auto stop activated. If you stop the bike, the lap counter stops, and you lose your rest timer.....

If you use Golden Cheetah, it will list all your 30 second efforts, and you will be able to tell how well you did.

bampilot06 02-19-22 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22414739)
Last time your ftp was 230 What percent did your guy give you? 130% is 325, and if your ftp is an honest 250, then that should be easily doable. By easily, it's going to be hard as hell, but it should be able to be done to completion.

Use your lap function, and this is where discipline comes into play. You start the lap, do 30 seconds, that should be 325-330, easy, rest, whatever it's supposed to be for 30 seconds, and repeat. Don't hit the lap button each time, because the workout is supposed to be for 10 minutes. (10' 30/30) If you hit the lap button every 30 seconds, you will lose count. This is a promise. It sounds easy, but there's a certain amount of brain fog, and the 30 seconds of rest/easy is not enough time to math. All you need on the screen is lap time, lap power and power. None of that smoothing ****, none of the 3 second avg power ****. Use your head and don't go crazy.

Also, make sure you don't have auto stop activated. If you stop the bike, the lap counter stops, and you lose your rest timer.....

If you use Golden Cheetah, it will list all your 30 second efforts, and you will be able to tell how well you did.


Thanks LAJ, the first time I asked about thai intervals estimated my FTP around 236, so I called it 230, since that time Ive been riding a little harder, getting more out of my comfort zone and it is now estimating my FTP at 257.

Ill have to take a look at it when I get home tomorrow but I think my lap is preset to 5 miles, you are saying to change that to 30 seconds correct?

WhyFi 02-19-22 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by bampilot06 (Post 22414746)
Ill have to take a look at it when I get home tomorrow but I think my lap is preset to 5 miles, you are saying to change that to 30 seconds correct?

No - 5 miles is your default auto lap. Any time you hit the lap button, regardless of your auto lap, it'll start a new lap and bring you to your lap screen (which you need to configure if you haven't already). You'll be able to get your 10 min session done within the 5 miles of the auto lap, so you shouldn't have to worry about it ticking over on its own.

edited to add: as far as the 30 seconds, you're starting your hard effort at the top of every minute, ending that effort at the 30 sec mark of every minute, until you hit 10 minutes. Hit the lap at the start of the 10 min but don't touch it til the end of the 10 min.

indyfabz 02-19-22 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22414575)

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big john 02-19-22 05:46 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22414524)
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LAJ 02-19-22 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22414770)
No - 5 miles is your default auto lap. Any time you hit the lap button, regardless of your auto lap, it'll start a new lap and bring you to your lap screen (which you need to configure if you haven't already). You'll be able to get your 10 min session done within the 5 miles of the auto lap, so you shouldn't have to worry about it ticking over on its own.

edited to add: as far as the 30 seconds, you're starting your hard effort at the top of every minute, ending that effort at the 30 sec mark of every minute, until you hit 10 minutes. Hit the lap at the start of the 10 min but don't touch it til the end of the 10 min.

Correct. I'm not sure why one would configure a lap at a specified distance though.

Velo Vol 02-19-22 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22414731)
One or two hours.

Catalogue today's outdoor time.

rjones28 02-19-22 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22414850)
Catalogue today's outdoor time.

No.

So bossy.

Velo Vol 02-19-22 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22414852)
No.

So bossy.

I don't find it credible that you were outside for two hours today.

I went on a quasi-jog and it was only 45 minutes, plus a few more in and out of the car.

LAJ 02-19-22 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by WhyFi (Post 22414770)
No - 5 miles is your default auto lap. Any time you hit the lap button, regardless of your auto lap, it'll start a new lap and bring you to your lap screen (which you need to configure if you haven't already). You'll be able to get your 10 min session done within the 5 miles of the auto lap, so you shouldn't have to worry about it ticking over on its own.

edited to add: as far as the 30 seconds, you're starting your hard effort at the top of every minute, ending that effort at the 30 sec mark of every minute, until you hit 10 minutes. Hit the lap at the start of the 10 min but don't touch it til the end of the 10 min.


Originally Posted by LAJ (Post 22414849)
Correct. I'm not sure why one would configure a lap at a specified distance though.


Again, that's why discipline comes into play. You look at real time power for that 30 seconds you're on the gas and estimate/guesstimate/verify you're within that 320-340 range. If you do any type of averaging, you're forever chasing whatever amount of time you're smoothing.

rjones28 02-19-22 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22414860)
I don't find it credible that you were outside for two hours today.

I went on a quasi-jog and it was only 45 minutes, plus a few more in and out of the car.

Walks with Benson last anywhere from 15 to 45 minutes. There are several a day.

big john 02-19-22 06:36 PM

6 of us did a nice 50 mile loop today with some climbing. My e-bike friends came with their regular road bikes as both Creo bikes are in the shop with chain drop issues.
They're one by cranks but they have a clutch or sprag in the crank so you can pedal backward and the chain doesn't move. It allows the crank to decouple from the motor. They also have a clutched rear derailleur. These are common on one by mountain bikes but I keep it switched off on mine. My friend says if he switches it off on his e-bike it makes the chain drop problem worse.

Anyway my friend did fine and even dropped me on the final climb (not a big deal) but his heart wasn't acting up today. His wife, who raced as a cat 2 years ago, was out climbing all of us until the final climb when a guy 30 years younger left her behind. I'm going to give her a lot of grief the next time she comes out on the e-bike.

Velo Vol 02-19-22 06:37 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22414882)
Walks with Benson last anywhere from 15 to 45 minutes. There are several a day.

No one around here walks a dog that much.

rjones28 02-19-22 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22414896)
No one around here walks a dog that much.

Sad

DougRNS 02-19-22 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22414882)
Walks with Benson last anywhere from 15 to 45 minutes. There are several a day.

it's one of the Joys of dog ownership. It can be a good escape from the rat race. He would know if he had a dog - man's best friend.

DougRNS 02-19-22 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22414896)
No one around here walks a dog that much.

Here's some news about Kennesaw State University academic success.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/cob...JKXBVIWK4IDKQ/

DougRNS 02-19-22 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 22412375)
Have you seen your witch doctor yet?

nothing to talk about, more of the same stupidity and dysfunction.

BillyD 02-19-22 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by rjones28 (Post 22414852)
No.

So bossy.

and nosey.

Velo Vol 02-19-22 07:20 PM

I'm not a subscriber, obviously.


Originally Posted by DougRNS (Post 22414914)
Here's some news about Kennesaw State University academic success.
https://www.mdjonline.com/news/local...ab0c6bff5.html


LesterOfPuppets 02-19-22 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by BillyD (Post 22414925)
and nosey.

and grumpy.

maybe all 7 dwarves and some bonus dwarves rolled into one.


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