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topflightpro 11-19-19 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 21214590)

It would be nice if you'd add some context to these instead of just posting links to other sites.

Morelock 11-19-19 09:05 AM

I assume it's the two spoke wheel

It's been out for a couple of years now... it's possibly* a pretty fast wheel actually, despite the fact that the "data" on their site would lead you to think it's all bulls#*7. Some whispers from people (that aren't sponsored) that it might be pretty fast, but never seen any "real" data.

It looks cool, but I'd want to see some hard data that it was really faster than a "known quantity" wheel before I paid ~$1700 for one.

*Dutch Tandem team used them at Rio for what that's worth.

Baby Puke 11-19-19 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Morelock (Post 21215171)
I assume it's the two spoke wheel

*Dutch Tandem team used them at Rio for what that's worth.

Wow, must be stiff and strong enough then! Looks freaky.

Morelock 11-20-19 04:42 AM


Originally Posted by Baby Puke (Post 21215960)
Wow, must be stiff and strong enough then! Looks freaky.

No firsthand experience but I would guess the wheel would have to be very stiff/strong in design. Older attempts at 2 spoke designs had a lot of issues when the "spoke" was at 3/6 o'clock so you'd think that would be the first thing they addressed.

zizou 11-21-19 07:14 AM

There was a rider at the Glasgow round of the world cup on a what looked like new Dolan (hard to tell at a distance but possibly with semi integrated bars). Unfortunately i was too far away to get a good photo

Rider was from the Eustrak Euskadi track team.

carleton 11-21-19 05:42 PM

There is a new South Park episode named "Board Girls" that addresses issues that we've seen in track cycling in the past couple of years.

https://southpark.cc.com/full-episod...07-board-girls

It's a sensitive topic. I suggest that people watch the entire episode before judging a book by its cover...or trailer in this case.

ruudlaff 11-22-19 03:17 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 21218312)
There is a new South Park episode named "Board Girls" that addresses issues that we've seen in track cycling in the past couple of years.

https://southpark.cc.com/full-episod...07-board-girls

It's a sensitive topic. I suggest that people watch the entire episode before judging a book by its cover...or trailer in this case.

Those who are shouting transphobia obviously haven't watched the other 2389790248 episodes of South Park. Everyone is a target to them.

queerpunk 11-22-19 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by ruudlaff (Post 21218774)
Those who are shouting transphobia obviously haven't watched the other 2389790248 episodes of South Park. Everyone is a target to them.

that doesn't make punching down any less ****ty

carleton 11-22-19 10:29 AM

You know what’s also ****ty? People who act like that character did in the episode. If people like that didn’t exist, the episode wouldn’t have been made as there would be no cultural reference.

South Park is really good at calling a spade a spade.

gycho77 11-23-19 11:32 PM

Alpina 3 spoke wheel

The Alpina 3 Spoke Full Carbon Track Wheelset is the ultimate all-round track wheel set for races and training.
As used in National Championships and 6 Day Manchester, beating some of the best track athletes in the world.

Not sure why they are not making 5 spoke wheels....

Huskey 11-24-19 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by queerpunk (Post 21218912)
that doesn't make punching down any less ****ty

Social commentary isn't punching down.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...613c7b7cfc.jpg

taras0000 11-24-19 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by gycho77 (Post 21221096)
Alpina 3 spoke wheel


Not sure why they are not making 5 spoke wheels....

Because a 5 spoke wheel isn't faster. And carbon tech is good enough that we can make a 3 spoke wheel stiff enough for just about anyone.

topflightpro 11-25-19 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by taras0000 (Post 21222137)
Because a 5 spoke wheel isn't faster. And carbon tech is good enough that we can make a 3 spoke wheel stiff enough for just about anyone.

But 5 spokes looks cooler than 3.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if that Alpina is just a generic Chinese tri-spoke, so not sure how fast or stiff it actually is.

carleton 11-25-19 03:03 PM

Dolan offered 5 spokes in front, rear, clincher, tubular, decals, and no decals permutations around 2015. I bought one for like $550.

The fact that they didnít sell like hotcakes may explain why they arenít offering them now.

Morelock 11-26-19 08:43 AM

5 spokes have to be really tough to sell. Either you've put a lot of time/work into it and it's expensive, at which point people are going to buy an iO... or it's (relatively) cheap/generic and people are going to buy the no-name cheapest 5 spoke they can find.

carleton 11-26-19 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by Morelock (Post 21223982)
5 spokes have to be really tough to sell. Either you've put a lot of time/work into it and it's expensive, at which point people are going to buy an iO... or it's (relatively) cheap/generic and people are going to buy the no-name cheapest 5 spoke they can find.

True.

As I've mentioned (a cajillion times) before, I firmly believe that the iO isn't that fast. Mavic has been riding a hype wave surrounding that wheel for over 20 years.

If a buyer is paying MSRP (what, like $4,000 now?), they should ask for wind tunnel receipts like they give for other wheels.

pierrej 11-26-19 05:58 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 21223991)
True.

As I've mentioned (a cajillion times) before, I firmly believe that the iO isn't that fast. Mavic has been riding a hype wave surrounding that wheel for over 20 years.

If a buyer is paying MSRP (what, like $4,000 now?), they should ask for wind tunnel receipts like they give for other wheels.

Yep, the io isn't fast at all, stiff though
Any team with the budget doesn't run them for a reason

Most smaller teams running them were given them


I still want double io's though, for reasons

Baby Puke 11-26-19 07:27 PM

Yeah, not fast at all...

Minion1 11-27-19 02:46 AM

With all the talk about 5 spokes I wanted to check that FFWD still made one, they still have their version on the website but the graphics on the wheel look pretty dated, and its buried at the bottom of the page, but I did find this, their version of a 2-spoke wheel.


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...c2748badad.png


FALCON TRACK - FFWD

brawlo 11-28-19 08:39 PM

Throwing a cat among the pigeons - plus a nice close up view of the bars :thumb:

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3b87b07b26.jpg

pierrej 11-29-19 07:02 AM

That's.... Interesting

I like the new pinarello and bars, also aerocoach doing some track specific bars

Clythio 11-29-19 10:43 AM

PInarello.
 
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pin...okyo-olympics/

carleton 11-29-19 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by Clythio (Post 21227167)

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/7U...X6-1024-80.png


Pinarello has launched a new edition of its MAAT track bike, which the Italian brand describes as its "gift for the Italian team" ahead of the Olympic Games in Toyko in 2020. The new model was designed in collaboration with the Italian federation and is said to specialise in the Madison and Omnium events while also being able to be ridden by the sprinters.
"...while also being able to be ridden by the sprinters." This is what I mean about the difference between track bikes designed from the ground-up for sprinters and allowing a sprinter to use one :D

Further, it's cool that they are designing a bike for the Madison.

The 38mm handlebars are not completely integrated into the frame but feature 'pseudo' brake hoods to create a "new" position out of the drops, while narrower sections either side of the stem are said to improve control during hand-slings.
They are a new take on UCI-legal "Sphinx" bars.

I've never been a Madison rider, but I'd imagine that one wouldn't want such a shallow bar with little difference between the tops and the drops. I thought that the rider that's up on the tops and about to sling the relief rider in would want to be up a little higher. But, I could be wrong.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fwaj8hGYV...dison+2013.jpg

pierrej 11-29-19 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 21227479)
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/7U...X6-1024-80.png



"...while also being able to be ridden by the sprinters." This is what I mean about the difference between track bikes designed from the ground-up for sprinters and allowing a sprinter to use one :D

Further, it's cool that they are designing a bike for the Madison.


They are a new take on UCI-legal "Sphinx" bars.

I've never been a Madison rider, but I'd imagine that one wouldn't want such a shallow bar with little difference between the tops and the drops. I thought that the rider that's up on the tops and about to sling the relief rider in would want to be up a little higher. But, I could be wrong.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-fwaj8hGYV...dison+2013.jpg

Madison and a lot of enduro setups really aren't that far off aggressive road positions, they're not super uncomfortable like sprinty ones

pierrej 11-29-19 08:58 PM

Aerocoach bars look pretty weird, pics on Instagram

Two sizes, 30 hoods/34 drops and 34 hoods/38 drops

Printed titanium so won't be cheap, road reach and drop numbers


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