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9 speed cassettes
Is anybody having any luck finding these? I am kicking myself for not buying an extra last summer. I guess the ultegra 6500's are gone-gone.
Anything else? |
I spy a couple of HG50-level road cassettes left on Universal Cycle -- act fast!
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Ribble had a good deal on the HG400 cassettes a while ago. And, I accidentally got a double order. So, I think I'm set for life.
Check E-Bay for cassettes. New ones. If you purchase slightly used ones, look at them very carefully. |
I have a SRAM PG 950, you can find them everywhere. Shifts are perfect and it looks good.
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Two critical items that are increasingly difficult to find at a reasonable price are the 26mm lock nut for a Campagnolo free hub and the Ergo 9 speed, either the complete Ergo or the part to convert a 9 or 10 speed to 9.
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SRAMs are out there.
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Thanks everyone. Any reason to choose the hg50 over the pg950, if both are available? Or vice versa?
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Originally Posted by force10
(Post 22192831)
Is anybody having any luck finding these? I am kicking myself for not buying an extra last summer. I guess the ultegra 6500's are gone-gone.
HG50, HG400 and HG200/201 are there. 9 speed cassettes are not going away, you can still get a 5-speed frewheel. (Another question is what Shimano is actually producing given the current problems with supply.)
Originally Posted by force10
(Post 22194483)
Thanks everyone. Any reason to choose the hg50 over the pg950, if both are available? Or vice versa?
For me the range and the ratio are the most important, and some of the options will disappear as 9 speed is moved down the hierarchy. For example, Ultegra 6500 had a 12-27, it is gone now. I like the progressions without the big jumps in the middle, for 7 speed it was Shimano "M" (13-15-17-19-21-24-28), John Allen explicitly recommends it on https://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7-7.shtml: Of all the cassettes listed below, the one I [John Allen] like best is the Shimano M cassette. It has an even progression of ratios, without a big jump in the middle like many other Shimano cassettes (including 8- and 9-speeds!). With triple chainrings, the M cassette provides a very nice selection of drive ratios. YMMV, maybe you want something more "road" with less range, like 12-26 or 14-25. |
Originally Posted by csport
(Post 22194578)
Ultegra 6500 are gone from Shimano range, https://productinfo.shimano.com/#/sp...tte%20Sprocket
HG50, HG400 and HG200/201 are there. 9 speed cassettes are not going away, you can still get a 5-speed frewheel. (Another question is what Shimano is actually producing given the current problems with supply.) I think all of them will shift well -- Shimano, SRAM, Microshift, Sunrace. It depends on what matters for you: cassette range and progression, weight, price? For me the range and the ratio are the most important, and some of the options will disappear as 9 speed is moved down the hierarchy. For example, Ultegra 6500 had a 12-27, it is gone now. I like the progressions without the big jumps in the middle, for 7 speed it was Shimano "M" (13-15-17-19-21-24-28), John Allen explicitly recommends it on https://www.sheldonbrown.com/k7-7.shtml: For 9 speed add 11 and 32: 11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32, this combination is made by Microshift (H092) (bikewagon has them on new ebay) and Shimano (HG200/201). Also very nice is Microshift H092 11-34: 11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-34 -- it has 8 cogs in the 11-28 range plus 34t for tougher hills. Now I have HG50 11-30 (11-12-14-16-18-20-23-26-30) on the bike (spotted by ThermionicScott on Universal Cycles). YMMV, maybe you want something more "road" with less range, like 12-26 or 14-25. |
Originally Posted by force10
(Post 22194982)
The 12-27 is the one I had the chance to buy last summer ... would have really been nice to have
I freaked out and ordered that Microshift 11-32. :) |
Would it be feasible to take a 8 speed HG-50 and add a cog somewhere?
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Originally Posted by StargazeCyclist
(Post 22199286)
Would it be feasible to take a 8 speed HG-50 and add a cog somewhere?
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Originally Posted by StargazeCyclist
(Post 22199286)
Would it be feasible to take a 8 speed HG-50 and add a cog somewhere?
For example, take 11-13-15-17-19-21-24-28-32, remove 11 and 13, add a top position 13 (or 14) and 36. This will make a great touring cassette, 13(14)-15-17-19-21-24-28-32-36. |
Originally Posted by StargazeCyclist
(Post 22199286)
Would it be feasible to take a 8 speed HG-50 and add a cog somewhere?
For a standard cassette spacing that is available, it isn’t worth it. There are some times when you might go that route. If you have 9 speed shifters and an 8 speed cassette you don’t want to go to waste, you can space it to 9 and just run 8 cogs; you’ll need to fill up the freehub body with spacers to be able to get the lockring tightened against the first cog. it is also useful if you want to build a cassette that isn’t made; which I have done more than once. When I don’t need an 11t or 12t, I’ll dump a cog and add a cog. I’ve even mixed-n-match cassettes and loose cogs to build a cassette using parts of 8, 9, 10, and 11 speeds. Forty years ago you could buy individual cogs for a freewheel and do the same. John Edit Added: While I was typing, csport beat me to it. |
Many German shops still have CS-6500 in stock. Rosebikes, Bikester, Bike-components, Bike24 etc.
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Originally Posted by Ihmemies
(Post 22211537)
Many German shops still have CS-6500 in stock. Rosebikes, Bikester, Bike-components, Bike24 etc.
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Since so many of these cassettes are pinned together these days, does anyone remove the pins to allow for more customization?
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Originally Posted by noobinsf
(Post 22221492)
Since so many of these cassettes are pinned together these days, does anyone remove the pins to allow for more customization?
Some people will say that by doing so, there is a risk of indenting the freehub body with the cogs and pinning prevents this. Probably more prevalent with a titanium freehub body. I have not had any problems, but I understand the potential. My initial reason to unpin was to be able to use 8 speed mtb trigger shifters with a 7 speed freehub by re-spacing the cassette. These days it is more about mixing and matching cogs to get certain ratios like the old freewheel cog board from years ago. John |
I have found HG50 9-speed 11-30 cassettes in the past couple of years, and they are great for my aging legs in the hilly area I live in. For the short cage Dura Ace 9-speed RD, you have to pretty much screw the B-screw all the way in to clear the 30T cog, and there is not a lot of clearance there even with the B-screw in all the way.
I might want to pick up a spare HG50 11-30 just to have it. |
On the Ultegra 9-speed cassettes, the top 3 or so cogs are attached as a unit on an Alu spider. I don't wear out these, but the mid-range cogs in the 15-19 range. So I buy Ebay cassettes (Sunshine, ZTTO, ZRACE etc.) and just replace the worn 6 cogs like for like. The largest Ultegra (or Dura-Ace or XTR) cogs, which constitute the weight savings, are kept.
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Originally Posted by Keefusb
(Post 22694431)
I have found HG50 9-speed 11-30 cassettes in the past couple of years, and they are great for my aging legs in the hilly area I live in. For the short cage Dura Ace 9-speed RD, you have to pretty much screw the B-screw all the way in to clear the 30T cog, and there is not a lot of clearance there even with the B-screw in all the way.
I might want to pick up a spare HG50 11-30 just to have it. in addition - Shimano (XT) CS-M770 9 speed cassette is available in 11-32 and 11-34 |
I just picked up a couple of Shimano Sora-branded HG50 11-30T cassettes from Nashbar for $35 each.
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here in Italy you can find hg400 cassette aroun 20€, those seems to be the best bang for the buck 9 speed cassette at the moment.
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Originally Posted by t2p
(Post 22694978)
in addition - Shimano (XT) CS-M770 9 speed cassette is available in 11-32 and 11-34
I have HG400 11-25 (cheap because it seems unpopular these days) ready to go for a super light setup with a 36 mtb chainring. the sora range is quite common. |
oops, almost thread jacked.
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