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SirMike1983 04-17-23 07:54 PM

The Westrick is a pretty beefy looking rim in that 28 inch size. I have a 1978 Raleigh DL-1 I bought many years ago off of craigslist in DC. They're good bikes that still have the old style roadster feel.

raleigh76 04-17-23 11:37 PM

My 1976 Sports is currently under the knife! The paint was in really rough shape. It's getting some updated cable routing, water bottle mounts, a light mount and a fender mount in the chainstay bridge. It will be powder coated a metallic light blue that is close to the original color. Work done by the excellent https://www.instagram.com/etiquefabrications/. I'm hoping it lasts another 47 years!



https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0345bda12.jpeg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...46d273497.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6745f03c0.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...8db87e0f8.jpeg

1989Pre 04-18-23 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by raleigh76 (Post 22863306)
My 1976 Sports is currently under the knife! The paint was in really rough shape. It's getting some updated cable routing, water bottle mounts, a light mount and a fender mount in the chainstay bridge. It will be powder coated a metallic light blue that is close to the original color. Work done by the excellent https://www.instagram.com/etiquefabrications/. I'm hoping it lasts another 47 years!

Those are some nice modernizations. Some thoughts and questions: By using plural "bottle cage mounts" do you intend to put a set on both the seat-tube and down-tube? By "light mount", do you mean you are brazing a lamp bracket boss to one of the fork blades? You must have meant you are upgrading the fender mount on the chainstay bridge, because I think all Sports' have them. That is a nice, re-inforced one.

raleigh76 04-18-23 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 22863490)
Those are some nice modernizations. Some thoughts and questions: By using plural "bottle cage mounts" do you intend to put a set on both the seat-tube and down-tube? By "light mount", do you mean you are brazing a lamp bracket boss to one of the fork blades? You must have meant you are upgrading the fender mount on the chainstay bridge, because I think all Sports' have them. That is a nice, re-inforced one.


Thanks! To answer the questions:

We added one set of bottle mounts on the downtube, I still want to have the traditional decal on the seat tube.

You can see the light mount in the first photo. I have a Bluelug Koma light that will screw into it. The location is inspired by a Hufnagel I saw online. I hope I works this was a bit of a risk!

For the fender mount: Surprisingly mine didnít come with one. It is a Canadian made frame so maybe thatís the difference?

Last but not least: I wanted to move the rear brake brake-ons from the drive side to the non-drive and update them to a modern style (that doesnít require stepped ferrules) but they were very securely welded and removing them risked leaving some marks on the frame, so they stayed.

Iím also very excited about the chainstay cable stop replacing the finnicky bolt on one.

Iíll post some pics once itís powder coated.

Tiny_Valkyrie 04-18-23 10:11 AM

Finished up some minor upgrades/restoration on my Raleigh Sports.
- I've installed new brake cables, but left the original cable housings since it is in great condition.
- Installed a rear rack (Wald 215), with a slight modification to clear the fenders. I used some bar stock and drilled a couple holes to lift the rack approx. 2". The modification worked perfectly.
- Replaces the old rotting tires with new Schwalbe Delta Cruisers.

Really pleased with the result.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...f91a5fe445.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...6d3e18ee28.jpg
Rear rack modification

raleigh76 04-18-23 12:31 PM

The frame color and the tire color combo is incredible.

gna 04-19-23 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Tiny_Valkyrie (Post 22863686)
Finished up some minor upgrades/restoration on my Raleigh Sports.
- I've installed new brake cables, but left the original cable housings since it is in great condition.
- Installed a rear rack (Wald 215), with a slight modification to clear the fenders. I used some bar stock and drilled a couple holes to lift the rack approx. 2". The modification worked perfectly.
- Replaces the old rotting tires with new Schwalbe Delta Cruisers.

Really pleased with the result.

Looks good. You just need to do something about those pedals.

Tiny_Valkyrie 04-19-23 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by gna (Post 22864551)
Looks good. You just need to do something about those pedals.

Yep! I've got new silver pedals from Velo Orange on the way ;)

1989Pre 04-19-23 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by Tiny_Valkyrie (Post 22863686)
Finished up some minor upgrades/restoration on my Raleigh Sports.

It looks great. Good work on the rack. How do you keep the leather on your Brooks B72 so nice?

Tiny_Valkyrie 04-19-23 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by 1989Pre (Post 22865061)
It looks great. Good work on the rack. How do you keep the leather on your Brooks B72 so nice?

@1989Pre, honestly I got lucky that the saddle came with the bike in that condition. I know the bike was stored inside for many years. I do also use a leather conditioning product (that I've for a long time on horse saddles/boots) called, Passier Lederbalsam. This has kept all my leather bike saddles really nice!

browngw 04-19-23 09:20 PM

I'm really liking all the coffee Sports showing up here. My 1972 Canadian market Sports.
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0eaccb1d6e.jpg

smontanaro 04-20-23 09:31 AM

Sturmey Archer AW Spare Parts?
 
I don't really do three-speeds, but we have an old Raleigh Sports my lovely wife dragged home from somewhere. The hub wasn't coasting at all, so I was assigned the task of refurbishing it. Everything seemed to go according to plan until I couldn't get the indicator pin to thread into the axle key (variously p/n K526 or HSA124, depending on your parts diagram). I pulled things apart and not only was the axle key rotated, it was shifted to one side and broken through the threads. That's on me, obviously. It looked okay when I put the hub back together.

Where do I go to find small S-A hub parts, given that I have no desire to start accumulating old AW hubs? I can check with my local co-op and see if they have some AW hubs (they likely don't have spares outside of complete hubs), but again, I really don't want to start accumulating old AW hubs. Any other suggestions?

Macguyver909 04-20-23 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by smontanaro (Post 22865690)
I don't really do three-speeds, but we have an old Raleigh Sports my lovely wife dragged home from somewhere. The hub wasn't coasting at all, so I was assigned the task of refurbishing it. Everything seemed to go according to plan until I couldn't get the indicator pin to thread into the axle key (variously p/n K526 or HSA124, depending on your parts diagram). I pulled things apart and not only was the axle key rotated, it was shifted to one side and broken through the threads. That's on me, obviously. It looked okay when I put the hub back together.

Where do I go to find small S-A hub parts, given that I have no desire to start accumulating old AW hubs? I can check with my local co-op and see if they have some AW hubs (they likely don't have spares outside of complete hubs), but again, I really don't want to start accumulating old AW hubs. Any other suggestions?


I have had great results using these guys. Sturmey-ArcherParts.com The ordering is a little strange, and the dude contacted me by text at like 8 on a saturday night. But the parts were priced fair, same with shipping. and showed up on time.
If you want the very best price, SJS cycles in england. But because of the minimum shipping cost only maks sense to buy in bulk from them.

smontanaro 04-20-23 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by Macguyver909 (Post 22865986)
I have had great results using these guys. Sturmey-ArcherParts.com.

Thanks. An iBoB person also recommeded them. I'm connected.

nlerner 04-20-23 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by smontanaro (Post 22866002)
Thanks. An iBoB person also recommeded them. I'm connected.

Skip, I’m glad to send you a couple of axle keys for the cost of mailing. I somehow ended up with a small drawer full.

gna 04-20-23 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by smontanaro (Post 22865690)
I don't really do three-speeds, but we have an old Raleigh Sports my lovely wife dragged home from somewhere. The hub wasn't coasting at all, so I was assigned the task of refurbishing it. Everything seemed to go according to plan until I couldn't get the indicator pin to thread into the axle key (variously p/n K526 or HSA124, depending on your parts diagram). I pulled things apart and not only was the axle key rotated, it was shifted to one side and broken through the threads. That's on me, obviously. It looked okay when I put the hub back together.

Make sure you screw an indicator into the key while you reassemble the hub, until you get the cone screwed down. This keeps it aligned. See step 9 of reassembly: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer/aw.html

smontanaro 04-20-23 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by gna (Post 22866048)
Make sure you screw an indicator into the key while you reassemble the hub, until you get the cone screwed down. This keeps it aligned. See step 9 of reassembly: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/sturmey-archer/aw.html

Yeah, I did that, but obviously removed it too early.

Tiny_Valkyrie 04-20-23 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by gna (Post 22864551)
Looks good. You just need to do something about those pedals.

As promised, new sliver pedals
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...68bba86d38.jpg

thumpism 04-23-23 06:35 PM

Looks like a 24" wheeled Raleigh for $30 in MI.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...61960041088254

https://scontent-iad3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...GQ&oe=644A5DA3

gster 04-23-23 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by smontanaro (Post 22865690)
I don't really do three-speeds, but we have an old Raleigh Sports my lovely wife dragged home from somewhere. The hub wasn't coasting at all, so I was assigned the task of refurbishing it. Everything seemed to go according to plan until I couldn't get the indicator pin to thread into the axle key (variously p/n K526 or HSA124, depending on your parts diagram). I pulled things apart and not only was the axle key rotated, it was shifted to one side and broken through the threads. That's on me, obviously. It looked okay when I put the hub back together.

Where do I go to find small S-A hub parts, given that I have no desire to start accumulating old AW hubs? I can check with my local co-op and see if they have some AW hubs (they likely don't have spares outside of complete hubs), but again, I really don't want to start accumulating old AW hubs. Any other suggestions?

Well.... finding an hub is probably free. Buying specific hub parts can be very expensive on Amazon etc. One hub can probably supply all the parts you need now and in the future. I've had problems with the key before. I think the trick is that once the hub is back together, install the indicator BEFORE any testing/spinning etc.

smontanaro 04-23-23 07:17 PM

Thanks for the responses. I found an axle key locally in a friend's parts stash.

1989Pre 04-24-23 04:49 AM


Originally Posted by thumpism (Post 22869111)

Looks like not much is needed to get this looking good.

Ged117 04-25-23 01:31 PM

Some months back I found a 1953 dated AW hub in a worn-out wheel, which I thought would be a perfect candidate to run on my commuter Triumph while I have the S5 hub wheel off the bike for a rebuild.

The '53 hub was gummed up from many years of use without maintenance and wasn't working, mostly due to missing parts inside and frozen pawls - so it turned out that I had to rebuild that one too. I took it completely apart and rebuilt it with new bearings, new pawl springs, 1 or 2 new pawls, and a few other parts I sourced from that guy in Seattle at Rat City Bikes (sturmeyrarcher parts.com).

Today I installed the wheel on the bike to test the function of the hub - and it ticks along perfectly. I have to say the apart from the parts that were missing and the broken pawl spring, the remaining bits were in great condition. I hope my S5 rebuild works out just the same - I suspect I'll find worn parts in that one.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6e06342f_b.jpgPXL_20230106_000729017

oldspokes 04-25-23 11:04 PM

Older Raleigh Sports in NJ:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/167804332864409


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...45c3e1f0c3.jpg

SirMike1983 04-26-23 06:57 AM

The mid-1950s Sturmey hubs, like that 1953, are excellent parts to have on hand. They are early enough that they don't have the cost cutting of later hubs, but late enough that they don't have some of the quirky parts of the early hubs.

Ged117 04-26-23 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by SirMike1983 (Post 22871711)
The mid-1950s Sturmey hubs, like that 1953, are excellent parts to have on hand. They are early enough that they don't have the cost cutting of later hubs, but late enough that they don't have some of the quirky parts of the early hubs.

I've been lucky finding earlier hubs. I have a '56 AW in nice shape that I found in a co-op bin among battered '70s hubs (a diamond in the rough - I was amazed it hadn't been snatched up). I found a late 50s Raleigh Canadian (in essence a Sports with Canada-specific paint work and decals), with a 1958 AW (I was worried it would be an SW, so it must've been right when they switched back to the AW). That bike was in a barn and the hub has the end of an old pencil for an oil cap, and needs rebuilding...

vintagebicycle 04-29-23 12:52 PM

Sunbeam in NJ
 
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...24870149495843



https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...17ac781e09.jpg

nlerner 04-29-23 12:58 PM

Are any of you contributors to this thread heading to Minnesota for the Lake Pepin 3-speed Tour later in May? I signed up last week and plan to bring my '38 Maclean Featherweight with an FW rear hub (yes, 4-speed, but there are allowances).

1989Pre 04-30-23 10:29 AM

I put eight miles in on the Rudge in a light rain and 45F degrees. I just wore my winter parka, which has a zip-out fleece and a water-proof, rubberized helmet. I was glad I did it. Came home and am on my second cup of Earl Grey tea. Yum. What are the stiffest after-market insoles I can use in my oxfords? Sorry no photos, but just imagine me trying every 45 seconds to roll back the front of my huge, yellow hood. Saw one other cyclist, two walkers and two runners on our 2.6-mile M.U.P. Medium rain began almost as soon as I got home. I have to get my miles in for the Trek Across Maine. No excuses (or not many, anyway...).

gna 04-30-23 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by nlerner (Post 22874934)
Are any of you contributors to this thread heading to Minnesota for the Lake Pepin 3-speed Tour later in May? I signed up last week and plan to bring my '38 Maclean Featherweight with an FW rear hub (yes, 4-speed, but there are allowances).

I'm already here, but yes I will be heading to Red Wing. Haven't made up my mind if I want to ride my Sports, my 20, or my new to me DL-1.


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