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Forum: Road Cycling
03-18-24, 10:26 PM
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Posted By SoSmellyAir

Yes, whether wax displaces every last bit of...

Yes, whether wax displaces every last bit of water is the focus of my discussion above with elcruxio. My concern is that it would not.



Unfortunately, heating the chain to evaporate residual...
Forum: Road Cycling
03-16-24, 07:28 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Not sure about salt. California has hard water,...

Not sure about salt. California has hard water, so relatively high mineral content. This was a chain that had previously been degreased with a degreaser, and thereafter lubricated with Boeshield T-9,...
Forum: Road Cycling
03-16-24, 03:03 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

That is not my experience. I had a Shimano 105...

That is not my experience. I had a Shimano 105 (CN-HG600) which I rinsed out with boiling water, then blow dry with an air compressor. There were little spots with surface rust by the time I was done...
Forum: Road Cycling
03-16-24, 12:23 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

A little water in the wax itself is no problem. A...

A little water in the wax itself is no problem. A little water trapped within the chain before waxing deters wax adhesion and causes rust.



Why are you watching it at all? Why not use a $10...
Forum: Road Cycling
03-16-24, 07:07 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

UK has sunlight? ;) But seriously, no....

UK has sunlight? ;)

But seriously, no. Melting point of paraffin starts at 50 *C at the low end, and I would not ride at temperatures anywhere near that.
Forum: Road Cycling
03-13-24, 03:53 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

1. Is the wax you use a paraffin wax? The max...

1. Is the wax you use a paraffin wax? The max melting point that I have seen quoted for paraffin wax is 165 *F or just under 75 *C. If it is a ski wax, why does it need to have such a high melting...
Forum: Road Cycling
03-10-24, 12:13 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Hocking a loogie per roller? ;)

Hocking a loogie per roller? ;)
Forum: Road Cycling
02-25-24, 12:41 PM
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Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

choddo Do you have odorless mineral spirits in...

choddo Do you have odorless mineral spirits in the UK? Look for the version spelt odourless mineral spirits :) or white spirits. That works much better than isopropyl alcohol.
Forum: Road Cycling
02-09-24, 06:03 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

In my experience, Dawn and boiling water are...

In my experience, Dawn and boiling water are insufficient for Shimano factory grease. Plus, as cyccommute points out, residual water may cause rust and deter wax adhesion. So I used two rounds of...
Forum: Road Cycling
01-05-24, 10:19 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

But a balance bike has no drivetrain to wax. :p

But a balance bike has no drivetrain to wax. :p
Forum: Road Cycling
01-05-24, 05:31 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Congratulations! Regarding cycling, both my...

Congratulations!

Regarding cycling, both my wife and I failed to teach my son how to ride a bike, even though her friend accomplished that in an hour a few months later. It is humbling to be a...
Forum: Road Cycling
01-05-24, 05:22 PM
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Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I said < 2 minutes to provide a conservative...

I said < 2 minutes to provide a conservative estimate, of which half a minute is spent retrieving the broom handle, setting the clamp on my work stand to horizontal, and clamping the broom handle....
Forum: Road Cycling
01-04-24, 06:27 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Why? Do you do so link by link? Just pull...

Why? Do you do so link by link?

Just pull the chain back and forth around a polished wooden broom handle, a section (about 1/3 of the chain) at a time, then turn the chain around, and do the same...
Forum: Road Cycling
01-04-24, 05:20 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

For easier chain reinstallation and perfect...

For easier chain reinstallation and perfect shifting right away. Otherwise shifting feels a bit off for a mile or so.
Forum: Road Cycling
09-28-23, 04:18 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I agree with the others who have said that the...

I agree with the others who have said that the advantages of chain waxing are even more prominent for a gravel bike than a road bike, which makes total sense when you compare the particles picked up...
Forum: Road Cycling
09-27-23, 02:58 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

1. No need for ultrasonic cleaning if one has...

1. No need for ultrasonic cleaning if one has good solvent. Best to start with a new or nearly new (i.e., < 200 miles) chain.
2. Yes, if one has good solvent, i.e., odorless mineral spirits. (This...
Forum: Road Cycling
06-07-23, 04:44 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

yaw After my waxed chain has cooled, I pull its...

yaw After my waxed chain has cooled, I pull its full length around a round wooden broom handle before re-installation on the bike. Otherwise I don't think I would even be able to re-install it....
Forum: Road Cycling
06-07-23, 11:18 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Chain looks clean. In my experience, the initial...

Chain looks clean. In my experience, the initial rough shifting can be eliminated by a quick wipe of just the side plates of the chain right after you pull the chain out of the wax, so that less wax...
Forum: Road Cycling
06-02-23, 10:59 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I have been considering Simple Green Aircraft...

I have been considering Simple Green Aircraft cleaner as an alternative to odorless mineral spirits.

Simple Green - SMP13406 Extreme Aircraft and Precision Cleaner, 1 Gallon Bottle 13406:...
Forum: Road Cycling
06-01-23, 11:09 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

You don't have to remove all traces of the OMS...

You don't have to remove all traces of the OMS "with acetone or alcohol or whatever." The reason we use a second, successive bath of OMS is to remove residual grease and/or particles on the chain...
Forum: Road Cycling
06-01-23, 11:13 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Not really sure what Lombard's issue might have...

Not really sure what Lombard's issue might have been other than he seems to be against waxing?



Yes, gummy or greasy residue on the drive train results from a less than thorough removal of...
Forum: Road Cycling
05-31-23, 10:19 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Irvine.

Irvine.
Forum: Road Cycling
05-31-23, 02:17 AM
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Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

By then you will already be waxing.

By then you will already be waxing.
Forum: Road Cycling
05-30-23, 10:49 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Next time you come down to the OC, let me know...

Next time you come down to the OC, let me know ahead of time (to melt wax in Crock Pot), I will wax one chain for you, to get you started on this habit.
Forum: Road Cycling
05-30-23, 10:36 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Speaking of gateway, I just received my first...

Speaking of gateway, I just received my first order of PTFE powder.
Forum: Road Cycling
05-24-23, 10:06 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

After my Crock Pot cools down and the paraffin...

After my Crock Pot cools down and the paraffin therein solidifies, the center of the paraffin puck is lower than the edge touching the interior surface of the Crock Pot.
Forum: Road Cycling
05-23-23, 01:08 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

msu2001la re: post #771, as follows: 1....

msu2001la re: post #771, as follows:

1. Odorless mineral spirits (the fast to dissolve version, not the slow to dissolve version) is all you need. Two or three baths (depending on how dirty the...
Forum: Road Cycling
04-10-23, 05:53 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Same here, as I live in southern California (with...

Same here, as I live in southern California (with the exception of this past winter).



The only time-consuming part of chain waxing is the initial cleaning, which (at most) only has to be done...
Forum: Road Cycling
04-09-23, 01:38 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

My plain paraffin wax is good for at least 250...

My plain paraffin wax is good for at least 250 miles.
Forum: Road Cycling
01-14-23, 02:27 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Gulf Wax available at Walmart.com again for <...

Gulf Wax available at Walmart.com again for < $4/lb.

Gulf Wax Household Paraffin Wax, 16 oz - Walmart.com (https://www.walmart.com/ip/Gulf-Wax-Household-Paraffin-Wax-16-oz/10420578?athbdg=L1103)
Forum: Road Cycling
12-24-22, 06:56 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

The Gulf wax I see say both canning and candle...

The Gulf wax I see say both canning and candle making on the package. It is also available at some Ralph's, just not the one closest to me; a couple of days before Christmas is not the time to be...
Forum: Road Cycling
12-21-22, 09:45 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I know. That was why I said "theoretically"....

I know. That was why I said "theoretically". Since I wax my chains at home, if I get hungry, there is usually something else to eat.



My wife's candles smell pretty good but they might be more...
Forum: Road Cycling
12-21-22, 08:39 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Buy the $12 Crock Pot from Walmart I linked...

Buy the $12 Crock Pot from Walmart I linked above. 2 qt. is perfect size for waxing chains.
Forum: Road Cycling
12-21-22, 08:09 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I use Gulf food grade paraffin wax, which is also...

I use Gulf food grade paraffin wax, which is also theoretically edible, and it has worked out fine so far. I also have half a kg of Silca Secret Chain Blend, which is more expensive.

But this...
Forum: Road Cycling
12-21-22, 01:50 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

$12! ...

$12!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Crock-Pot-2-Quart-Round-Manual-Slow-Cooker-Black/50213889?
Forum: Road Cycling
12-20-22, 11:04 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Arts & crafts major plus a minor in organic...

Arts & crafts major plus a minor in organic solvent chemistry, with cyccommute as the instructor.
Forum: Road Cycling
12-20-22, 11:02 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

You should have used Muc-Off C3 Ceramic Dry Lube....

You should have used Muc-Off C3 Ceramic Dry Lube. It may not work as well as wax (or even Rock N Roll Gold or Boeshield T-9) but it does smell good.



I too think that the best thing about waxed...
Forum: Road Cycling
12-18-22, 06:28 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

And all of these bikes sharing chains work with...

And all of these bikes sharing chains work with the same chain length?
Forum: Road Cycling
12-18-22, 12:08 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

You got me there.

You got me there.
Forum: Road Cycling
12-17-22, 06:42 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I was trying to lube and clean the chain.

I was trying to lube and clean the chain.
Forum: Road Cycling
12-17-22, 06:17 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

No, I am not kidding. On the first cycle, I...

No, I am not kidding.

On the first cycle, I use two drops per roller (so that it serves as a bit of a rinse); on the next two cycles, one drop per roller. I was misled (maybe by someone here on...
Forum: Road Cycling
12-17-22, 05:44 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I am not trying to mislead anyone; I should have...

I am not trying to mislead anyone; I should have been more clear. The actual duration is of course (as you point out) longer than drip lube. But during the time it takes the wax to melt and to get...
Forum: Road Cycling
12-17-22, 04:30 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Have you ever tried waxing? Waxing...

Have you ever tried waxing?



Waxing does not take more time than applying wet lube roller by roller. But waxing takes more time than just spraying wet lube onto the chain while back pedaling....
Forum: Road Cycling
12-11-22, 08:26 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Look, Lombard, you seem to be a cycling...

Look, Lombard, you seem to be a cycling enthusiast, based on your participation in this and the Bicycle Mechanics subforum. So why not give immersion waxing a try?

You say waxing is a waste of...
Forum: Road Cycling
12-09-22, 08:50 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

But the oil grouches debate each other regarding...

But the oil grouches debate each other regarding which lube is the "best".
Forum: Road Cycling
12-08-22, 03:43 PM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Yes (as noted earlier) this thread should have...

Yes (as noted earlier) this thread should have been titled "immersion waxing." That said, perhaps you meant "hot tub[]" instead of "hot tube"?
Forum: Road Cycling
12-08-22, 10:01 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

Are you sure this is the "poor man's" version?...

Are you sure this is the "poor man's" version? Silca SS is $44 for 16 ounces; how many applications using your method?

Whereas a crockpot is about $12: Crock-Pot 2 Quart Round Manual Slow Cooker,...
Forum: Road Cycling
12-07-22, 10:48 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

This is what I have done too, although some...

This is what I have done too, although some waxing instructions say this step is not necessary. This step does necessitate cleaning the remainder of the drivetrain prior to installing a waxed chain.
Forum: Road Cycling
12-02-22, 12:02 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

3 lbs.? Is this your version of the neighborhood...

3 lbs.? Is this your version of the neighborhood lemonade stand?
Forum: Road Cycling
12-01-22, 09:28 AM
Replies: 1,302
Views: 61,716
Posted By SoSmellyAir

I agree the MSW protocol (of 3 OMS baths followed...

I agree the MSW protocol (of 3 OMS baths followed by 2 denatured alcohol / acetone baths) is overkill. Before rewaxing a chain, I agitate and soak the chain in two OMS baths. As I noted above, OMS...
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